View Full Version : Why do the iksar speak Di'Zok?
Cusashorn
01-14-2008, 01:38 PM
<p>One thing I've noticed about all the Undead iksar around Kunark: They don't speak Sebilisian. They don't speak Sathirian. They speak Di'Zok, the language of thier mortal enemies, the Sarnak.</p><p>Is there any lore explanation for this? Or was it just a design flaw or something? I've noticed the mobs in Crypt of Agony seem to associate themselves with the Di'Zok sarnak as well.</p>
Eriol
01-14-2008, 02:20 PM
You'd think at least some of them would speak Cabilisian (or is it Sebilisian? Whatever the "book" you can buy in scale yard is for), as Sathirian is a relatively "new" language. But then again, the Sarnak in general were a slave race, so whatever they speak would be "close-ish" to whatever the "older" language is as well, as it would probably be based off of whatever their masters originally taught them, which would be what THEY were speaking too.
Drager
01-14-2008, 05:06 PM
personal i think it depends on who is necromancing them. so most likely some sarnak brought a bunch of skeletons back to life and in since they have no more voice box decided to make them say something (in Di'zok) but some lore would be nice
Gukkor2
01-14-2008, 06:30 PM
<p>Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree that if there is, in fact, a valid reason for it lore-wise, it's probably that the Di'zok are the ones who animated them.</p><p>One question I have, though: <i>is</i> Sathirian a new language? I had assumed that it was the ancient form of the Iksar tongue that they spoke in Venril Sathir's day, back when the Iksar were first unifying as an empire, and that Sathirian gradually turned into Sebilisian, but was revived in its original form when Sathir retook control of Kunark's Iksar.</p>
Cusashorn
01-14-2008, 06:52 PM
<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree that if there is, in fact, a valid reason for it lore-wise, it's probably that the Di'zok are the ones who animated them.</p><p>One question I have, though: <i>is</i> Sathirian a new language? I had assumed that it was the ancient form of the Iksar tongue that they spoke in Venril Sathir's day, back when the Iksar were first unifying as an empire, and that Sathirian gradually turned into Sebilisian, but was revived in its original form when Sathir retook control of Kunark's Iksar.</p></blockquote>That could be the case, or the opposite. Sathirian may have evolved from Sebilisian. Much like how Old English evolved into Middle English, which evolved into Modern English, which IMHO is evolving into L33t English.
Well i'm thinkin more along the lines of them being made into slaves. As an ultimate punishment they were forced to speak the Di'zok language and were forbidden to speak the language they had been taught. This may have been ingrained in them until their eventual deaths.
Drager
01-15-2008, 12:05 AM
that brings further question can you really kill something that is already dead? but yes there are many possible answers to this
Gukkor2
01-15-2008, 12:41 AM
<p>You can in Norrath, but only because it's very, very rare for a being in EQ's cosmology to truly die. From what I can tell, they are almost always reincarnated in some form, whether as undead, servants of the gods in the planes, or mortals once more. Granted, that could be how it works in our world for all we know, but the key difference is that denizens of Norrath are often, perhaps even usually consciously aware of their previous life/lives (a ghost usually knows who it was in life and why it became undead, for example).</p><p>So essentially, one could say that things in Norrath can die, but they're never really dead. Or something.</p>
BarrelRoll
01-15-2008, 05:34 AM
<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can in Norrath, but only because it's very, very rare for a being in EQ's cosmology to truly die. From what I can tell, they are almost always reincarnated in some form, whether as undead, servants of the gods in the planes, or mortals once more. Granted, that could be how it works in our world for all we know, but the key difference is that denizens of Norrath are often, perhaps even usually consciously aware of their previous life/lives (a ghost usually knows who it was in life and why it became undead, for example).</p><p>So essentially, one could say that things in Norrath can die, but they're never really dead. Or something.</p></blockquote>...Unless the Void tries to eat you! Nothing escapes the Void!
Cusashorn
01-15-2008, 09:32 AM
Getting off topic here, and besides, The game has many examples of people who passed on and didn't come back to unlife because they died peacefully and had no regrets in life, or didn't have thier corpse disturbed.
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