lvl 36 24 aa's considering respec please advise + Lifeburn questions

[Yumena]

<p>Ok loving my necro to bits - not the sort of player who maxes everything to be the uberest - but I do like to be good.</p><p> Now on 24 aa's it is obvious to me I could have done better.</p><p>Current line up</p><p>1 possess minion and 1 stamina</p><p>2 in necro mark and 3 in chain</p><p>17 in the rotting line</p><p>Now that I am over 20 I am tempted to go all out and get lifeburn - I am concerned though as a soloer or duo (most of my play time) without a healer it would be a waste. I am also concerned it could kill me as it appears it takes 200% of your health. So one question is exactly how would lifeburn help me on say a big white ^^ named mob as a soloer or would n't it.</p><p>My next question is if you advise me not to go with life burn how would you respec it - my 17 points in rotting tended to be my theory that a dead mob cannot hurt your pet so much - but I understand the points into enhance warrior pet and stamina and getting tainted heals can all have their own benefits.</p><p>I know you should go with your own preference but I cannot find enough info on lifeburn to help me.</p><p>Many thanks for any help in advance. </p>

[sirmorte]

<p>Ok, I put my first 21 points in roting though lifeburn. My next 5 points went into improved warrior. My next 21 points went into the tainted heal line. I LOVE TAINTED HEAL!</p><p> I have 10 other AA points that has so far been added to the stamina line. I intend to finish out the stamina line with 4, 4, 8, 8 and then consider my other options for future AAs.  </p><p> I haven't decided where to put my last three AA points in the necro line. I am thinking of reducing time for consumption or pet casting.</p>

[Miztery]

Ellos mate.Lifeburn is a GROUP AA. NOT a solo or duo AA.Lifeburn can do NOTHING, Tainted Heals cant do, and Tainted heals can do a LOT more in solo play, than lifeburn can.A necro that solo's most of the time, or even just more than 50% of the time, <u>MUST GET TAINTED HEALS AS THEIR FIRST TOP AA!!</u>I do not caps it for any other reason than to really stress it as much as possible. You should not get a single AA outside the Tainted Heals line, untill you have tainted heals.Even if you duo more than you solo, Tainted Heals is a much better choice than lifeburn. Now of course you want to have BOTH, but no doubt you need tainted heals first, hell even the sta line you should probably get some points in, before lifeburn.You should probably read the AA post for "solo necro's" here, about 3 or 4 posts below your own one, heck, let me find a link for ya real quick: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=384095" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=384095</a>Fact is, the sooner you get Tainted Heals, the sooner you go from being a King, to being a GOD among solo'ers.Most importantly of all - have fun <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Daemhir]

<p>I'll second that - get tainted heals as fast as possible. Don't remember if 24 points enough or not, if not, get few more and get Tainted Heals.</p><p>I didn't believe either before I got it, but once I had it - that was the whole new story. </p>

[Mew]

/agree - Tainted heals for solo or duo play without a healer.  Lifeburn will continue for up to 200% of your health provided you are healed during LB's duration.  If you get to 1 health without a heal lifeburn will stop automatically.  Your life tap spell line can help a little bit but there is nothing like a direct heal or regen spell to max lifeburn.  But if you are soloing/duoing the lifeburn will almost certainly pull aggro on you - you will die.Get the tainted heals (manipulations line) and build your tank pet (STA line and Gravecalling: Enhance Warrior Pet).Honestly, the capstone ability in the STA line is pretty useless IMHO.  Once you have the STA line filled in skip the last ability.

[Miztery]

<cite>Mewse wrote:</cite><blockquote>Honestly, the capstone ability in the STA line is pretty useless IMHO.  Once you have the STA line filled in skip the last ability. </blockquote>I bet there is somewhere, somehow, that it can be useful, maybe even someone on this board have found it, I'm just not it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Aye agreed, definitely skip the cap AA in Sta, go 4-4-8-8 and dont grab last one. (for solo or duo leveling 1-80 that is)True story:A couple days ago, there was a thread here on the Necro board, with a player going "Arg arg, my new tank pet is useless!! It does not taunt at all, and I often get agro within a few spells! Is this tier X pet just totally broken or what?!"A few people chimed in that yea, theres definitely something going on with the tanks taunt (this is in fact true, or at least is for the T8 one).About 5 or so replies down, a guy goes "Are you sure you dont have the capskill from STA line activated? You know, the one that makes your tank pet unable to use any of its CA's?"Guess what, the guy posted with a /blush and admitted that he had it on, and did not even know it. He turned it off, and everything was (relatively) fine.Omg, that was sooo post of the day <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Eviljoe2]

<p>I gotta go with the masses on this one.....would be lost without tainted heals.</p><p>That has GOT to be first on your list.</p><p>Others stand there and watch as I sent tank to pull aggro off healer, then another add in grp, then take on the one tank has....in Kunzar can take on 3 yellows at once no problem.....they watch as my pet tanks a heroic iksar and his pet in Sebilis...something many classes would not even look at without a healer.  All of this is possible with tainted heals and aggro control.</p>

[Todra_B]

<p>I'll be the first to say I'm not a great Necro and I'm still getting the tactics down. At lvl 33 this last weekend I picked up my 22nd aa and respect to tainted heals. It is an impressive ability. I went out searching for something bigger than me to pick on<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />. </p><p>In BBM at the chessboard are two named skellys one was a 35^^ knight, with tainted heals I pwnd him. The other was a 35^^^ King? He pwnd me! It was hitting my tank like a 69 Drachnid in KP. I saw 500+ hits.  Once my tank was down I was four hits and dead. Didn't have time to root and run or fear it.  Resists to the spells that trigger TH are a headache too. I'll look for an even con ^^^ to try it out on and see what happens.  </p>

[WasFycksir]

<p>I agree with the others, Tainted Heals first then the Rotting line as you can...</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Miztery wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite><blockquote>Honestly, the capstone ability in the STA line is pretty useless IMHO.  Once you have the STA line filled in skip the last ability. </blockquote>I bet there is somewhere, somehow, that it can be useful, maybe even someone on this board have found it, I'm just not it <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />Aye agreed, definitely skip the cap AA in Sta, go 4-4-8-8 and dont grab last one. (for solo or duo leveling 1-80 that is)True story:A couple days ago, there was a thread here on the Necro board, with a player going "Arg arg, my new tank pet is useless!! It does not taunt at all, and I often get agro within a few spells! Is this tier X pet just totally broken or what?!"A few people chimed in that yea, theres definitely something going on with the tanks taunt (this is in fact true, or at least is for the T8 one).About 5 or so replies down, a guy goes "Are you sure you dont have the capskill from STA line activated? You know, the one that makes your tank pet unable to use any of its CA's?"Guess what, the guy posted with a /blush and admitted that he had it on, and did not even know it. He turned it off, and everything was (relatively) fine.Omg, that was sooo post of the day <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote>Its useful on mage pets in pvp. when someone dev ifsts the mage pet it barely loses any power and stays alive. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Yumena]

<p>Thanks for the tips - so it sounds like the best way to go is put the first 20 into manipulations and get tainted heals.</p><p> My one tiny little concern over this is I have rocketed my way to 36 and I take the master 2 defensive pet stance where possible and he just seems pretty impervious.</p><p> Are you talking about taking on tougher mobs or should i be M2 ing something else instead ?</p><p>(Usually have adept3 Pet)</p><p> Also will I notice the 17 points from the rotting line are missing much ??</p><p>Cheers</p>

[Miztery]

<cite>Yumena wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks for the tips - so it sounds like the best way to go is put the first 20 into manipulations and get tainted heals.</p><p> My one tiny little concern over this is I have rocketed my way to 36 and I take the master 2 defensive pet stance where possible and he just seems pretty impervious.</p><p> Are you talking about taking on tougher mobs or should i be M2 ing something else instead ?</p><p>(Usually have adept3 Pet)</p><p> Also will I notice the 17 points from the rotting line are missing much ??</p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p>M2'ing the def. stance is a great idea, regardless.</p><p>AD3 pet is also almost a must have.</p><p>You wont be missing the rotting line much at your level.</p><p>You will solo faster, more efficiently, and will be able to take down bigger stuff, with tainted heals.</p>

[Griffildur]

<p>I think you are right in what you're saying. going for LB, as your first choice is indeed a waste.</p><p>what you want is this :</p><p>Tough tank pet (ad3) + all the AA perkps you can get right away (yes TH is a must for any self respecting necro)</p><p>You want to be able to lose aggro when you get it, so if I were you I would start reading the AA trees and class perks and see what you can do about that. </p><p>Always choose M2 def stance when you can. It sure beats anything else you might get.</p><p>Once you are satisfied with these you can think where you can turn to continue using your AA points. </p><p>There are many sites showing you the complete trees and explanation so it might be an idea to read everything and make the choices that suit your playstyle.</p><p>DO NOT just copy someone else's choices. Your play style may be completely different.</p>

[Philtronx]

I honestly don't see lifeburn being that much of an asset at 36. Tainted Heals will change your life though, in a good way. When you start hitting the tough named mobs Lifeburn will pay itself off but you have a while before this happens.

[Tokam]

<cite>Yumena wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks for the tips - so it sounds like the best way to go is put the first 20 into manipulations and get tainted heals.</p><p> My one tiny little concern over this is I have rocketed my way to 36 and I take the master 2 defensive pet stance where possible and he just seems pretty impervious.</p><p> Are you talking about taking on tougher mobs or should i be M2 ing something else instead ?</p><p>(Usually have adept3 Pet)</p><p> Also will I notice the 17 points from the rotting line are missing much ??</p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote>Nah def stance is ok, withering affliction would be the other choice. Now you have heals try 8 in sta - Perceptor's Command - this will help you dps the mob faster and get it back on your pet when you get aggro (you will always be getting aggro).Dont worry that the setup seems a little defensive, learn to take the dps a little slower and keep on top of the healing and you will be amazed at the mobs that you can kill (and the speed with which you can chain pull).

[Kaldrin]

Add my chime in for the Tainted Heals line and better pets. I personally am not sure about whether to use the tank or the scout pet solo. I use the tank if I'm fighting named, but the Scout if I'm fighting regulars and it seems to work well. I've got 5 in the fighter damage redux and 2 in the scout so far. I've got only two in the other tree...

[Tokam]

If i were starting toka from scratch my aa route would be...Chains 5 Pact 5 Plot 5 Mark 5 Tainted Heals 1 <i>Remember you can toggle the pet buff to get a guaranteed heal, its not like its going to get resisted and it has a fast cast time. </i>1 Possess MinionSta 4 4 8THEN infill sta to 4 7 8 8 <i>Thats 49 aa which would put you around abouts lvl 50, dependant on leveling style</i>At this point you can go either way. If you are grouping a lot Id suggest going 4 4 6 8 2 in agi then LB, being as you now have just about the best soloer in the game id suggest instead:5 Rot 5 Coil 5 Pandemic4 4 4 8 str5 Enhance Warrior Pet <i>Thats 99 aa which will put you at round about level 70</i>By the time you have got to 70 Im sure that you will have enough of an idea of your necro to understand what you do and dont want.