vampirism "why does sony hate necromancers?"

[cuular]

I could not say enough about this spell in beta. It was doing 2K to 3K damage per hit for me in beta. I was parsing right under our wizard and warlock on the zone wide parse and the world was great. Then RoK went live and Sony took the nerf bat to our level 80 special spell. I was so excited when i made level 80 in the fi4rst week that RoK went live. I quickly had this spell scribed adept3 and was ready to go on our first guild raid and just kick but on the parse. I watched a few parses in the channel go by and was like hmm I really thought I would be higher I did not get hit by the aoe so my spell lasted the whole time but where is my dps. I figured they must have nerfed the spell a bit after beta but thought i should still be doing better. I watched as our conjuror cast his level 80 special and all his pets put a big hurt on the mob we were fighting. So what to do. Well of course I needed to see how bad the nerfed the spell so fired up act and went out to solo a few mobs. I was shocked and sickened by what they did to this spell. Low hits in the 100 range and high about 350. [I cannot control my vocabulary]!!!! it does about 10% of what it was doing in beta!!! I recently got the master and it is not much of an upgrade to the adept 3. Now I can understand making the spell a bit less powerful say cutting it in half or so but by up to 90% . Why the hate for us necromancers? Oh I forgot our 7 piece set bonus for VP gear is 20% more damage to this spell. Wow an avarage of 40 more points of damage on this spell I just can not contain my excitement <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Sabutai]

<cite>cuular wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could not say enough about this spell in beta. It was doing 2K to 3K damage per hit for me in beta. I was parsing right under our wizard and warlock on the zone wide parse and the world was great. Then RoK went live and Sony took the nerf bat to our level 80 special spell. I was so excited when i made level 80 in the fi4rst week that RoK went live. I quickly had this spell scribed adept3 and was ready to go on our first guild raid and just kick but on the parse. I watched a few parses in the channel go by and was like hmm I really thought I would be higher I did not get hit by the aoe so my spell lasted the whole time but where is my dps. I figured they must have nerfed the spell a bit after beta but thought i should still be doing better. I watched as our conjuror cast his level 80 special and all his pets put a big hurt on the mob we were fighting. So what to do. Well of course I needed to see how bad the nerfed the spell so fired up act and went out to solo a few mobs. I was shocked and sickened by what they did to this spell. Low hits in the 100 range and high about 350. [I cannot control my vocabulary]!!!! it does about 10% of what it was doing in beta!!! I recently got the master and it is not much of an upgrade to the adept 3. Now I can understand making the spell a bit less powerful say cutting it in half or so but by up to 90% . Why the hate for us necromancers? Oh I forgot our 7 piece set bonus for VP gear is 20% more damage to this spell. Wow an avarage of 40 more points of damage on this spell I just can not contain my excitement <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>yea the spell sucks, I use it in zones like chamber of destiny where I can get up on the mobs nuts, otherwise I don't use it at all.  Kinda got screwed on the special spell for RoK not much we can do about it.  70% of the VP set gear blows, I personally will only be wearing 3.  The shoulders I could find better but since the 3 piece set is so nice some sacrifices are in order I guess.  Heaven forbid you actually make a whole set of gear that the whole class goes....WOW I can't wait to get my hands on it all.

[Stinkybeagle]

<p>I wouldnt exactully say sony hates us, well mabye they do on the summoner pvp aspect , as far as PVE we are still the gods of solo. I have seen some impressive bruisers , but thats another story.   </p><p>The low damage on that orb is really sickening though. I think are summond dagger even out parses it. I am just hopen it was a over calculated oppsie on the developers side. </p><p> a side note , class rmors have always been like , "neat but not what im gonna be wearing when every number counts.".  Like the poster above said , thers only a couple peices worth wearing out of the whole set. Im thinken One of the devs stopped playen his Necro main last year in 06.....................</p>

[tooloose]

<p>On Nagafen, necros seem to come a dime a dozen so putting my nec in raids isn't high on my agenda. My view could therefore be somewhat off base for most pve necros or seem to simplify or minimize most players complaints about our dps. I think our dps is just fine, for soloing. To be able to take most names within a few levels, with or without any help more than makes up for wizzy/lock dps. I don't have to share my loot and i can buzz through most kos/eof instances in minutes.  </p><p>Yeah, I know wizzies can solo stuff that wipe groups, but for day in day out guaranteed success, Sony gave us much love with tainted heals.</p><p>If they take that away, then I will say they hate us =)</p>

[cuular]

I am a raider and while necromancers may be a dime a dozen good ones that can hold their own on the parse with warlocks and wizards are not. I raid that is all I really do I enjoy it. I solo from time to time but raiding is why I really love this game. Our level 80 special is just so crappy compared to all of the other classes. Hell I would be ok if it did not do any dps as long as it was something useful but it is not. The sony hates us is more to get attention for the post but they really did give us the short end of the stick on this spell. Other then that I love being a necromancer. I was decently happy with 3328 zone wide dps in the protectors realm last night but it just galls me that our conjuror got such a more usefull level 80 spell then I did . LOL

[Eviljoe2]

<cite>cuular wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could not say enough about this spell in beta. It was doing 2K to 3K damage per hit for me in beta. I was parsing right under our wizard and warlock on the zone wide parse and the world was great. Then RoK went live and Sony took the nerf bat to our level 80 special spell. I was so excited when i made level 80 in the fi4rst week that RoK went live. I quickly had this spell scribed adept3 and was ready to go on our first guild raid and just kick but on the parse. I watched a few parses in the channel go by and was like hmm I really thought I would be higher I did not get hit by the aoe so my spell lasted the whole time but where is my dps. I figured they must have nerfed the spell a bit after beta but thought i should still be doing better. I watched as our conjuror cast his level 80 special and all his pets put a big hurt on the mob we were fighting. So what to do. Well of course I needed to see how bad the nerfed the spell so fired up act and went out to solo a few mobs. I was shocked and sickened by what they did to this spell. Low hits in the 100 range and high about 350. [I cannot control my vocabulary]!!!! it does about 10% of what it was doing in beta!!! I recently got the master and it is not much of an upgrade to the adept 3. Now I can understand making the spell a bit less powerful say cutting it in half or so but by up to 90% . Why the hate for us necromancers? Oh I forgot our 7 piece set bonus for VP gear is 20% more damage to this spell. Wow an avarage of 40 more points of damage on this spell I just can not contain my excitement <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>I would have prob. been just as upset if I had played beta and noticed the drop in spell dmg....but since I did not see it before, I still enjoy the spell as is, it is not uber at all, just a nice little extra bit of dmg.</p><p>It would be helpful though, if they truely did Nerf the dmg. that bad, to reduce the re-use timer a bit...please....</p>

[KBern]

<cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I would have prob. been just as upset if I had played beta and noticed the drop in spell dmg....but since I did not see it before, I still enjoy the spell as is, it is not uber at all, just a nice little extra bit of dmg.</p><p>It would be helpful though, if they truely did Nerf the dmg. that bad, to reduce the re-use timer a bit...please....</p></blockquote><p>The thing is though that the 80 spells should be psuedo class defining.  They are the focus of the full set of class armor (at least for necros).</p><p>I can understand if the spell was very overpowered and needing toning down, but it seemed, as is par for the course with SOE, they tried to fix a broken toaster with a hammer when a screw driver would have done the job.</p>

[Tokam]

Id rather just recast coil or hit gluttony than waste time casting this spell, I sometimes pre cast it on the trouby but thats about it. Ive seen the orb drop to AE when its been on my pet with pact up, and ofc any sort of reflect/ds renders it unusable without taking zone geometry and mob distribution into account.There are other issues with necro dps that I would like to see addressed before this spell, as it is I have better things to fill hotbars with.

[Solarax]

<cite>Tokamak wrote:</cite><blockquote>Id rather just recast coil or hit gluttony than waste time casting this spell, I sometimes pre cast it on the trouby but thats about it. Ive seen the orb drop to AE when its been on my pet with pact up, and ofc any sort of reflect/ds renders it unusable without taking zone geometry and mob distribution into account.There are other issues with necro dps that I would like to see addressed before this spell, as it is I have better things to fill hotbars with.</blockquote>i agree completelyunfortunately i also got to play with it in beta and now wont even pull it out of the book