T8 spell resists vs T7 spell resists

[Tarmagin]

With T8 master spells being very expensive and hard to find even then, I have only been able to upgrade 5 spells so far from T7 masters to T8 masters.  The strange thing that I have noticed is that my new T8 master spells get resisted much, much, much, more often than my old T7 master spells.  Two that are especially bad are the new root and Magma chamber.  They get resisted almost 50% of the time against yellow con mobs.  My T7 root was hardly ever resisted against yellow con mobs in ROK before I upgraded.  My T7 Ball of Lava has only been resisted a couple of times over thousands of fights against ROK mobs.  Is anyone else finding higher than expected resist rates on their new T8 masters as well?

[Victor]

Not compared the T7 <> T8 spell resists so far, but yeah solo yellow mobs are a pain. (especially on JW) I'm level 80, I have all spells upgraded to ADIII and I have a few masters already, but sometimes spells just go resist 5-6 in a row. All this with ~950 INT.

[simpwrx02]

<p>Int means nothing for spell resists, it is only damage and power pool, not sure why peole always list int in discussions about spell resists.  Any way when you are fighting mobs solo it is better to have more disruption and subjagation to minimize resists, since we are a rooting class and our debuff is a dot, which breaks roots so we cant debuff the mob.  Raise up castign skills and resists will go down.</p>

[Beghard]

<cite>simpwrx02 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> our debuff is a dot, which breaks roots so we cant debuff the mob.  </p></blockquote>LOL! It worked fine for everything up till RoK. Afew more mobs will break their root with it on but i dont think theres been a fight where i didnt use it since i was lvl 11 4 years ago!

[Tarmagin]

<p>I think some people have missed the point of the original post.  I am aware of how disruption and other skills effect resist rates.  The point is that I can equip my <b>T7 master root</b> and it gets <b>resisted</b> much, much <b>less often</b> than if I equip my T8 master root.  This obviously should not be the case but it is clear that it is.   Same with our intterupt/damage spell, Magma Chamber T8 master is resisted more than 3 times the rate at which my T7 master is when I equip that.      So in other words Equip T7 master no resist, use T8 master upgrade of same spell and it is resist, resist, resist.</p>

[Victor]

<cite>simpwrx02 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Int means nothing for spell resists, it is only damage and power pool, not sure why peole always list int in discussions about spell resists.  Any way when you are fighting mobs solo it is better to have more disruption and subjagation to minimize resists, since we are a rooting class and our debuff is a dot, which breaks roots so we cant debuff the mob.  Raise up castign skills and resists will go down.</p></blockquote> Oh yes sry, was mistaken on that part.. Anyways, Disruption ~430 and Subj. ~410 and still get 4-5 resists in chain. Last night on a solo named in JW both of my roots were resisted 4-5 time so I can't actually root it and 2/3 of the other spells went resist as well.. Needless to say I got toasted. . And it was "only" a yellow con solo "^" named.To the OP.: No, I not missed your point and I will do some research on it later today. But as I've stated before not compared the T7 <> T8 resists so far, I just can't accept the hilarious amount of resists on solo content in general (no problems in group or raids). But I'll check out what U've stated in your original post today, promise <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" />--------Edit:Roots were almost the same, maybe a bit better, Ring of Frost and Shackle are both M1 and the T8 version of them is only ADIII.About Magma Chamber... Well.. The T7 version of it seemed to be resisted just like the Magma Chamber itself, maybe a bit worse.. The Magma Chamber is M2 and the T7 version is only M1..

[TsarRasput]

<cite>Beghard wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>simpwrx02 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> our debuff is a dot, which breaks roots so we cant debuff the mob.  </p></blockquote>LOL! It worked fine for everything up till RoK. Afew more mobs will break their root with it on but i dont think theres been a fight where i didnt use it since i was lvl 11 4 years ago!</blockquote>Most wizards don't use dots and roots at the same time.  I personally can't think of a situation where I would.  on solo mobs, they're 2-3 shotted, no need to even root for the most part.  On heroics, roots breaking too often mean death, and the debuff doesn't add enough to make it worth the greatly increased chance of the root breaking.

[simpwrx02]

<cite>Beghard wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>simpwrx02 wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>our debuff is a dot, which breaks roots so we cant debuff the mob.  </p></blockquote>LOL! It worked fine for everything up till RoK. Afew more mobs will break their root with it on but i dont think theres been a fight where i didnt use it since i was lvl 11 4 years ago!</blockquote>Yeah if i only killed solo mobs sure i would use it every fight as well as there is no diffculty at all in those,  Did you ever solo the boss of Nest when you were 70, cuz i would love to see you use our debuff on that  = revive and try again, or any of the named mobs for that matter in tier 7.  RoK herioc named are basically impossible because of being immune to root.  So if you always use the wizzy debuff then you are in a group or killing solo mobs or die 10 times per herioc until you get lucky and actually have the root hold.

[ailees]

<cite>Tarmagin wrote:</cite><blockquote>Two that are especially bad are the new root and Magma chamber.  They get resisted almost 50% of the time against yellow con mobs.  My T7 root was hardly ever resisted against yellow con mobs in ROK before I upgraded.  My T7 Ball of Lava has only been resisted a couple of times over thousands of fights against ROK mobs.  Is anyone else finding higher than expected resist rates on their new T8 masters as well?</blockquote>Against yellow 1 arrow, like drakes my AD3 root is not resisted. I could do all quests from the hunter's clan without trouble. And my magma chamber hits.Only place where I got some trouble with root being resisted, was the instance with those 2 skellies spawning and healing the named, (sorry it's early in the morning, I don't remember name) but I could anyway root both skellies with both T8 roots, enough to let my group kill some 2 or 3 times.BTW, I also raid, and even against the named of tier1 I had no resist from my DDs. I don't think I have any problem with those spells being resisted more than my master T7.