Free Character Transfers?

[Khuul]

<p>Did a search but can't find any new/reliable info. Is there any update on this? Am sick of paying the ridiculously high fee for transfer to other account or server. Would be a nice xmas gift to the players...</p>

[Laserfoot]

I would'nt really worry about it right now...I predict some server merges anytime soon.  I play alot, and i can feel  it coming just by observing the population and attitude of all in gc...just imho though <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  i've seen this coming for awhile...this game will end up as uber cronie type guilds like lineage2 whereas only the dedicated old farts hangout (no kids allowed) unless there are more peeps on the servers.

[funkmasterflex]

maybe, maybe not. every server was medium to heavy (other than the RP exchange server) every day the past few. granded alot of folks are off for the holidays but if there's that many subs that it could show medium to heavy on everything then there's not too low of a subscriber base. dont wave the dying game flag just yet

[Wingrider01]

<cite>funkmasterflex wrote:</cite><blockquote>maybe, maybe not. every server was medium to heavy (other than the RP exchange server) every day the past few. granded alot of folks are off for the holidays but if there's that many subs that it could show medium to heavy on everything then there's not too low of a subscriber base. dont wave the dying game flag just yet</blockquote>The servers medium to heavy load goes back a lot furhter then the last few days. It started back around the release fo ROK and has not tapered off yet. The only servers that where consistently in the light catagory where the Station Exchange and the PVP servers.. There is zero need to merger any servers

[Norrsken]

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>funkmasterflex wrote:</cite><blockquote>maybe, maybe not. every server was medium to heavy (other than the RP exchange server) every day the past few. granded alot of folks are off for the holidays but if there's that many subs that it could show medium to heavy on everything then there's not too low of a subscriber base. dont wave the dying game flag just yet</blockquote>The servers medium to heavy load goes back a lot furhter then the last few days. It started back around the release fo ROK and has not tapered off yet. The only servers that where consistently in the light catagory where the Station Exchange and the PVP servers.. There is zero need to merger any servers</blockquote>Honestly, I've not seen Nagafen go light load in ages, and that is a pvp server. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kari]

On AB the server has really been struggling under the weight of the high population. Although the crashing has reduced, there are still crazy zoning times and lag. There are multiple threads on the server forum asking for free transfers off by people hoping to more to a less populous server. So if they open up free transfers I suspect it would be due to too high population rather than too low.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>funkmasterflex wrote:</cite><blockquote>maybe, maybe not. every server was medium to heavy (other than the RP exchange server) every day the past few. granded alot of folks are off for the holidays but if there's that many subs that it could show medium to heavy on everything then there's not too low of a subscriber base. dont wave the dying game flag just yet</blockquote>The servers medium to heavy load goes back a lot furhter then the last few days. It started back around the release fo ROK and has not tapered off yet. The only servers that where consistently in the light catagory where the Station Exchange and the PVP servers.. There is zero need to merger any servers</blockquote>Honestly, I've not seen Nagafen go light load in ages, and that is a pvp server. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>seen it more in the light to medium then anyplace else, even on friday/saturday nights

[Darsat]

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>funkmasterflex wrote:</cite><blockquote>maybe, maybe not. every server was medium to heavy (other than the RP exchange server) every day the past few. granded alot of folks are off for the holidays but if there's that many subs that it could show medium to heavy on everything then there's not too low of a subscriber base. dont wave the dying game flag just yet</blockquote>The servers medium to heavy load goes back a lot furhter then the last few days. It started back around the release fo ROK and has not tapered off yet. The only servers that where consistently in the light catagory where the Station Exchange and the PVP servers.. There is zero need to merger any servers</blockquote>Honestly, I've not seen Nagafen go light load in ages, and that is a pvp server. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"></blockquote>seen it more in the light to medium then anyplace else, even on friday/saturday nights</blockquote>seen it more in the medium to heavy than anyplace lese, even on friday/saturday nights since im making chars all the time.

[Rqron]

Well, if you want to move that badly ...pay up.....Others did....don't expect to get anything for free. Do the calculations. What will it cost to install a new ..brand new  server and use it to expand ..say AB...and remember AB is NOT a single hardware server but several "servers" acting as one..as AB.Well, lets assume a wild number of $30000 US...If SOE would open up AB for free transfer then a LOT of people will move off and  as I understand whole guilds have asked for free moves... its $50 a character..divide 30000/50 and you get 600.I bet more than 600 characters are wanting to be moved for free heck the average person probably has 5 or more alts so this number will be reached by probably less then 100 accounts.  I bet someone at SOE ha already gone through those calculations and that is precisely why you don't find anything. And people move ..and pay..everyday. Heck my wife and I moved as soon as character transfer was available and we did it about 5 minutes apart and within that time the transaction number for server transfer was 700 higher. From SOEs point of view it is cheaper to install new hardware then to give anyone free server transfer.J.C.

[erin]

<cite>Rqron wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well, if you want to move that badly ...pay up.....Others did....don't expect to get anything for free. Do the calculations. What will it cost to install a new ..brand new  server and use it to expand ..say AB...and remember AB is NOT a single hardware server but several "servers" acting as one..as AB.Well, lets assume a wild number of $30000 US...If SOE would open up AB for free transfer then a LOT of people will move off and  as I understand whole guilds have asked for free moves... its $50 a character..divide 30000/50 and you get 600.I bet more than 600 characters are wanting to be moved for free heck the average person probably has 5 or more alts so this number will be reached by probably less then 100 accounts.  I bet someone at SOE ha already gone through those calculations and that is precisely why you don't find anything. And people move ..and pay..everyday. Heck my wife and I moved as soon as character transfer was available and we did it about 5 minutes apart and within that time the transaction number for server transfer was 700 higher. From SOEs point of view it is cheaper to install new hardware then to give anyone free server transfer.J.C.</blockquote>They did it once before, no reason to assume it will never happen again.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>erin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rqron wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well, if you want to move that badly ...pay up.....Others did....don't expect to get anything for free. Do the calculations. What will it cost to install a new ..brand new  server and use it to expand ..say AB...and remember AB is NOT a single hardware server but several "servers" acting as one..as AB.Well, lets assume a wild number of $30000 US...If SOE would open up AB for free transfer then a LOT of people will move off and  as I understand whole guilds have asked for free moves... its $50 a character..divide 30000/50 and you get 600.I bet more than 600 characters are wanting to be moved for free heck the average person probably has 5 or more alts so this number will be reached by probably less then 100 accounts.  I bet someone at SOE ha already gone through those calculations and that is precisely why you don't find anything. And people move ..and pay..everyday. Heck my wife and I moved as soon as character transfer was available and we did it about 5 minutes apart and within that time the transaction number for server transfer was 700 higher. From SOEs point of view it is cheaper to install new hardware then to give anyone free server transfer.J.C.</blockquote>They did it once before, no reason to assume it will never happen again.</blockquote>If you are talking on free transfers, the only time this has been offered was on server merges, don;t thoink there are any merges on the horizon, transfers goes used to be higher then what they are not, prices where recently dropped

[erin]

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>If you are talking on free transfers, the only time this has been offered was on server merges, don;t thoink there are any merges on the horizon, transfers goes used to be higher then what they are not, prices where recently dropped</blockquote>Not true, or at least I'm not aware of any server merges going on at the time of the recent free transfer.  I transferred several chars around at the time.  Was maybe... 6 months ago?  I could be off on the time, not good with that.

[Zin`Car]

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote>The servers medium to heavy load goes back a lot furhter then the last few days. It started back around the release fo ROK and has not tapered off yet. The only servers that where consistently in the light catagory where the Station Exchange and the PVP servers.. There is zero need to merger any servers</blockquote><p>you cannot judge anything by the SOE indicators of "light. medium and heavy" because there is no publically known distinction between the three.  Light load could very well mean 1 - 10 players are online, medium could be 11 - 25 people are online and heavy load could mean 26+ are online.  So using those indicators is like taking for granted that the person selling you dry land in the Florida everglades is truly dry land without first seeing it.</p><p>I can almost guarantee you the "heavy load" indicators now would have been the "light load" indicators when EQ2 first launched.Besides, SOE just did free transfers not too long ago.</p>

[Meunayil]

<cite>Rqron wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well, if you want to move that badly ...pay up.....Others did....don't expect to get anything for free. Do the calculations. What will it cost to install a new ..brand new  server and use it to expand ..say AB...and remember AB is NOT a single hardware server but several "servers" acting as one..as AB.Well, lets assume a wild number of $30000 US...If SOE would open up AB for free transfer then a LOT of people will move off and  as I understand whole guilds have asked for free moves... its $50 a character..divide 30000/50 and you get 600.I bet more than 600 characters are wanting to be moved for free heck the average person probably has 5 or more alts so this number will be reached by probably less then 100 accounts.  I bet someone at SOE ha already gone through those calculations and that is precisely why you don't find anything. And people move ..and pay..everyday. Heck my wife and I moved as soon as character transfer was available and we did it about 5 minutes apart and within that time the transaction number for server transfer was 700 higher. From SOEs point of view it is cheaper to install new hardware then to give anyone free server transfer.J.C.</blockquote>Interesting SOE mentallity here.  While yes it may be easier for SOE just to add new servers and make us pay for the transfers as usual, every once in awhile its good business sense to give away stuff to keep your clients happy (or get new ones in).  Case in point "open a savings account with us and get a free toaster"  People tend to open more savings accounts during that time then during the "We are the best bank around ... open a savings account with us" periods.On a different note while $50 may not seem like a lot if you have 1 toon that you play always no exceptions add in the people that have multiple accounts with multiple alts / crafters you can see where these types may just stay on servers where they are unhappy due to the astronomical price to move off it.  Would be nice to see SOE do one of 2 things1.  Open a period of free transfers (Could be short 1-5 days for those serious about moving, less impact to SOEs bottom line)2.  Offer a multiple toon discount (Again short time frame, less impact)All in all that will keep many happy and lead us to believe SOE actually gives a crap about us their bottom line.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Luinne@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote>The servers medium to heavy load goes back a lot furhter then the last few days. It started back around the release fo ROK and has not tapered off yet. The only servers that where consistently in the light catagory where the Station Exchange and the PVP servers.. There is zero need to merger any servers</blockquote><p>you cannot judge anything by the SOE indicators of "light. medium and heavy" because there is no publically known distinction between the three.  Light load could very well mean 1 - 10 players are online, medium could be 11 - 25 people are online and heavy load could mean 26+ are online.  So using those indicators is like taking for granted that the person selling you dry land in the Florida everglades is truly dry land without first seeing it.</p><p>I can almost guarantee you the "heavy load" indicators now would have been the "light load" indicators when EQ2 first launched.Besides, SOE just did free transfers not too long ago.</p></blockquote><p>guess eveyhone has a conspircy theory about SOE and server loads.</p><p>Really - they did free server transfers over all servers, not just because they where merging a server - how did a miss a free server transfer over all servers? SOE has done free transfers but never without a merger or some other major change in the structure.</p>

[Meunayil]

Yeah they did 2 rounds of free transfers so far.  One in conjunction with mergers and one right around the time of EoF if I am not mistaken.  I remember this vividly as I took advantage of it to swap accounts of a couple of my toons.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Kesugeo@Nektulos wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah they did 2 rounds of free transfers so far.  One in conjunction with mergers and one right around the time of EoF if I am not mistaken.  I remember this vividly as I took advantage of it to swap accounts of a couple of my toons.</blockquote><p>Correct, but they have never done any free transfers without a change in the system - IE server merge, etc. Transfers outside of special circumstances have always been chargeable</p><p>This is a reference to the last "free" transfer they offered - was during the merger of the PVP servers</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=359576" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=359576</a></p>

[steelblueangel]

<p>Soe did give a free sever transfer and  in fact it was very recent. An entire raid guild, including all of their alts, complete with plat, fabled armor etc was transfered from the test server (which is a non-transferable server) to a regular sever. So, soe does give free transfers even from severs that state once your toon is there is can never transfer off it. No money and no merger was involved in this transfer. </p>