Oh Come ON....

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>Is the DoT the mobs throw in Crypt of Agony REALLY NECESSARY???   I don't find that challenging or interesting, I find it distinctly UnFun.</p><p>/whine off</p>

[Beldin_]

<p>DoT ? You mean the mana-poison ?</p><p>Extra funny if you are the only healer <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

Yeah..that's the one.  The Curse of the Tomb Raider...aka "The Devs just handed every mob this zonewide AOE that only one class can really cure..so even though we've already made their lives pretty miserable..let's just twist that knife just a littttttle deeper...ah! there" DoT.

[KaiZas]

Yeah it's pretty horrible. It has soured the entire instance for me, actually. When guildies ask, I just pretend I'm afk.

[Skivley101]

<p>So what is the dot doing specifically ?, you guys have got me curious ...</p><p>Is the level of hate about equal to waking up to this? .... " La La La La ... La La La La ... Elmoes song "</p><p>*** Logging into EQ , searching for mobs that resemble Elmo ***   KILL KILL KILL <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> DIE DIE DIE <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[KaiZas]

Every mob throws it about every 2 seconds on the entire group. It lasts for 15 minutes making everybody spend double power on every CA and spell.It flies on faster than the groupcure can get rid of it, so you have to use the manual cures as well. And as stated before, don't forget to heal in the meantime. You can leave it on, if you're willing to have a considerable downtime after every fight. And the zone repops.It's elemental, so us wardens get to have all the fun.

[Skivley101]

<p>WoW (no pun intended) that does sound anoying (close to elmo)</p><p>So were you exagerating a little bit ?(every 2 sec) what would be the point of even cureing it.</p><p>Since its elemental , if everyone boosted elemental resists high enough, would that take care of it?</p><p>Or if everybody had incombat regen high enough , would that do it?</p><p>Doesnt the inquis also have elemental group cure? ours is trauma/elemental, theirs is arcane/elemental.</p><p>Or maybe that wasnt you's all point?</p><p>Heck .... What about all Warden/Inquis group ? ....Well maybe We would need Sormr to come along too <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Beldin_]

<p><b>Skivley101, just level your warden to 76+ and go into CoA, and have fun <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></b></p><p><b>Last run we wiped against the endmob, because i was OOM when he was at 5% *grml* .. and no, it is no fun to cure it 5 times in fight from yourself, and have it again a second later. But maybe all the people who always cry for "more challenge" are happy now <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></b></p>

[dpsman]

<p>Maybe I'm weird; but I love COA and I usually insist on solo healing there, I prefer not to sacrifice dps in a groiup when 1 Warden is all that is needed.</p><p>I macroed my single elemental cure so it always cures me, no matter who I have targeted, I then use Purity on MT when its up and cure the group when Verdant is up. I am rarely out of mana when doing this. Personaly I think it's good practice for some healers, I've seen some pretty lazy ones when it comes to curing.</p><p>Macro your single target Elemental cure as I did, It makes a world of a difference.</p>

[Skivley101]

<cite>Shalla@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><b>Skivley101, just level your warden to 76+ and go into CoA, and have fun <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></b></p><p><b>Last run we wiped against the endmob, because i was OOM when he was at 5% *grml* .. and no, it is no fun to cure it 5 times in fight from yourself, and have it again a second later. But <span style="color: #cc66cc;">maybe all the people who always cry for "more challenge"</span> are happy now <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></b></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #cc66ff;">Woot , finnallly .....</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc66ff;">Why do i need to lvl up?, I could probably go do it right now at lvl 72</span></p>

[TigerLotus]

<p>Huhu,</p><p> well I was annoyed of this bug too. I asked myself "why cure, it's back in 5 sec anyway".Has anyone experienced if the dot resistencies in warden aa-tree are of any use in this case?</p><p> At the endmob we had three wipes too. All the healer where out of mana when the bossreached maybe 4% of his life. Until this time the fight was not that difficult. But I think in thiscase it's not the elemental dot but something different. I think the boss is mode-switching, becausehe is growing and hits harder than before. Maybe he is draining mana directly, becauseI had 50% ´(thanks to two scouts) at first but then it was suddenly all gone. So the wipes allways happendat the last 3-1% of bosslife. </p><p>And we had to run to the boss again, rebirth didn't trigger -.- I have not found out why, but sometimes,especially when you need it the most, rebirth just does nothing. Could it be, that the bug mentioned one year ago in this forum is still not fixed? It says that if you use one of the death prevention skillstogether with rebirth, rebirth doesn't function, besause only prevention triggers and resets rebirth,or something like this.</p><p>Happy Christmas</p>

[Deathstar]

<p>Yup that dot is a nuissance, I cure myself and the MT; use group cure when ever its up.  I save emergency heals or no power heals for the end.  But, I've never wiped in there due to power issues.  I have at least 1 weapon adorned for power taps and because I'm melee spec I can still proc group heals with no power.</p>

[Skivley101]

<cite>TigerLotus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Huhu,</p><p> And we had to run to the boss again, rebirth didn't trigger -.- I have not found out why, but sometimes,especially when you need it the most, rebirth just does nothing. Could it be, that the bug mentioned <span style="color: #ff6600;">one year ago </span>in this forum is still not fixed? It says that if you use one of the death prevention skillstogether with rebirth, rebirth doesn't function, besause only prevention triggers and resets rebirth,or something like this.</p><p>Happy Christmas</p></blockquote><p>stop the happy christmas thing ....we know your upset , so stop i....t....</p><p>my [Removed for Content] is sore from wondering if the mele/caster spec is gona get it done ... you know it dont matter, im gona charm kunzar tigers</p>

[TigerLotus]

<p>To <b>Skivley101</b> </p><p>...maybe it's no christmas any more in your timezone, but in germay it's stillthe second christmasday and so it's a matter of politeness to wish happy christmasto everyone. I am really upset of your way of thinking always that negativeand imputing me intensions I didn't even think about.</p><p>And by the way - you are no forum moderator or anyone who is allowed to tell people what theymust write or not. For this reason I give you a permanent igno.</p>

[Meshuggahx]

Easy zone really.. i solo heal it in 75 and no wipes and never got oop.. but i always got a bard with me (they are really popular nowadays) and even a monk is good for their faster casting skill..Inqs can remove the elemental dots too btw..My tip for last mob is to keep at max range and put gale on.. it will kb the [Removed for Content] alot and he will do alot less dps on the tank.

[AsYxThief]

<p>They must of nerfed it because I have no problems curing now I stay at about 50% power or more through the whole zone... has neone else noticed a big change? </p><p>The zone is a joke though I solo heal it all the time and have no problems with curing or nething I mean the mobs hit like little girls.</p><p>So I didn't mind the debuff it makes it more challenging 4 all those newbs out there that don't know how to cure and so they can come here and cry on the forums about it.</p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<cite>Skivley101 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>WoW (no pun intended) that does sound anoying (close to elmo)</p><p><span style="color: #ff0066;">Yes</span></p><p>So were you exagerating a little bit ?(every 2 sec)</p><p><span style="color: #ff3300;">No</span></p><p> what would be the point of even cureing it.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Because as stated previously, if you don't, the whole group is out of power really fast, zone repops faster, ie you die a lot</span></p><p>Since its elemental , if everyone boosted elemental resists high enough, would that take care of it?</p><p><span style="color: #ff3300;">No.  I have my group buffed well over 9k (if not more).  It doesn't 'scan' resists - it just throws it. Blue mobs with an elemental dot that can't be resisted. :/</span></p><p>Or if everybody had incombat regen high enough , would that do it?</p><p><span style="color: #ff3300;">No.  Not even with a necro handing out candy.</span></p><p>Doesnt the inquis also have elemental group cure? ours is trauma/elemental, theirs is arcane/elemental.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Yes, but that supposes you have an Inquis with you.</span></p><p>Or maybe that wasnt you's all point?</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">No.  The point is ...FIX IT so it's not so stupid!</span></p><p>Heck .... What about all Warden/Inquis group ? ....Well maybe We would need Sormr to come along too <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I'd do that.    err..the group.  i mean..you know../BLUSH</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Also...please understand...I don't have eny trouble healing through this zone or healing for the last mob ..we get him every time.  I'm just sayin'.  The zone is awful, not fun..and the loot sucks.    That's all.</span></p></blockquote>

[Ferunnia]

Meh, just keep yourself and the mt cured, screw everyone else <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. If they get lucky group cure will be up and I'll toss it out...after single curing myself. I've only wiped once solo healing the place...someone ae'd and pulled us an extra 5 or 6 mobs.

[Shizzirri]

<p>The worst is when you group cure it fast then its back less then one second later...</p><p>my big pet peeve here are the idiots who whine about the cure but dont drink anything to help out the power.</p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>Katrinity..I can't believe you are in groups post about level 30...who don't think drinking is necessary!  Poor you../sympathize.</p><p>And P.S.  If they don't fix the loot in this zone..it's A) unfun for a healer and B) pointless without loot.</p>

[Avanya]

<p>/agree Arielle</p><p>I have no problem at all healing this zone solo.  I agree with Arielle, it's not a challenge, it's just an annoyance.  I can't understand why some of you would consider this a challenge.  </p><p>I will say, however, that the last time I was there, it seemed like the AE was going off less often.</p>

[Skivley101]

<cite>Arani@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>/agree Arielle</p><p>I have no problem at all healing this zone solo.  I agree with Arielle, it's not a challenge, it's just an annoyance.  I can't understand why some of you would consider this a challenge.  </p><p><span style="color: #33cc66;">I will say, however, that the last time I was there, it seemed like the AE was going off less often.</span></p></blockquote>Ah ha .... you said the key word Arani ... AE .... What about tortise shell on this , drag 2 druids along?

[T'Pol]

This curse buff is very annoying indeed. I was in that zone twice with my warden and now everytime guildies ask i try to come along with my illu because then i am able to do something about this by stunning/stifling the mobs <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />So if possible ask an enchanter to go with you in that zone and you will be fine.

[Deathstar]

Not to derail the subject; but I was in there the other night with a bruiser as a MT.  I can't tell you the number of times I died.  He would body pull and than taunt the mob when it got close.  The mobs would come straight for me, we even had a mystic in the group and he had no aggro.  There were also a couple of times that mobs came out of no where and straight for me.  He claims that the taunts weren't resisted he just couldn't get them off me.  Well after a few more deaths, I cancelled the spores buff from him and I didn't get aggro for the rest of the night.  Has anyone else had this problem with a bruiser as MT? 

[Skivley101]

<cite>Deathstar@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not to derail the subject; but I was in there the other night with a bruiser as a MT.  I can't tell you the number of times I died.  He would body pull and than taunt the mob when it got close.  The mobs would come straight for me, we even had a mystic in the group and he had no aggro.  There were also a couple of times that mobs came out of no where and straight for me.  He claims that the taunts weren't resisted he just couldn't get them off me.  Well after a few more deaths, I cancelled the spores buff from him and I didn't get aggro for the rest of the night.  Has anyone else had this problem with a bruiser as MT?  </blockquote><p>Sounds like you had a really good run of luck on spores ... lol ...especially with his avoidance , err supose to have. Maybey what their throwing is procing it more ?</p><p> Ya somtimes you just have to put that on after pull.  **shrug**</p>

[Steve11418]

Lemon is correct. Enchanter is best, but if you have your group front load their stuns and stifles then you will have less of an issue with this DOT

[Skivley101]

<p>So has this zoned been nerfed a bit?  I did it for the first time the other day , didnt seem to bad **shrug**</p><p>The group was 74-77ish  ... Pally Mt , SK ,Temp,Warden,Assas,Wizzy</p><p>I did all the curing and some healing , Mele most of the time, and infusion sometimes.</p><p>The debuff didnt seem to be thrown all the time, mostly 1 big burst at the beginning or halfway through.</p><p>It was kinda interesting trying to figure out how long to hold off on group cureing and getting into position for infusion <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Ferunnia]

You guys should be doubly happy, now. They ninja-added an arcane aoe to most mobs as well...Now you guys are the only class with a group cure for both of the AoEs. Lucky you <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[cryosisbst]

Wardens group cure is elemental and trauma , Inquisitor's group cure is arcane and elemental. My wife is an inquis and we duo heal the zone so it is nice when my group cure is down hers is up. Good hunting <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[shadowgate]

I have solo healed this zone at 74th no problem and without a bard or mezzer for power(Yes the rest of the group was 78+). The key for my group is stuns. The mobs drop ALOT less of these if they are stunned once or twice during the fight! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So there are a number of ways to make this zone less annoying. When we have our Brigand and Swash using stun poison and me using Modinthalis I usually only have to cast my group cure once for each mob and sometimes not at all.<b></b>

[Ferunnia]

Ah, sorry, asked someone the other night what the cures for a warden are and was told elemental/arcane. Guess they had their head up their bum. Thanks for the correction.