Got ur back

[Fenrish]

Hi can some1 tell me how works guardian AoE prevent called Got ur Back?? Its from guard AA line

[Konka]

It stops ther fighers in your group getting hit by aoe attacks its pritty worthless

[Bluwolf]

Actually when you are raiding and a boss mob casts its big AOE at 10% hps, all fighters in your group thank you for having it. So I would not say its totally worthless.

[Falken]

How many raids do you go on where you have another fighter in the guards group?? assuming your mt that is. completely useless skill, if you want to spend your extra aa some where got for the riposte reduction end line

[Judist]

As a guardian MA I find it priceless. For a guardian MT its worthless.

[Schmalex23]

Why?  Fighters are the least of people to need AE immune.  We have the highest HP pool in the raid.

[TuinalOfTheNexus]

<cite>Skel@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why?  Fighters are the least of people to need AE immune.  We have the highest HP pool in the raid.</blockquote><p>Admittedly RoK has moved away slightly from the joustable AEs, but Got Your Back coupled with Block are two 15s immunities both on a 54 sec reuse. Coupled with tower of stone it basically means when being a backup tank you never need to joust out on <i>any</i> mob, which has obvious benefits in keeping you able to intercede or take over immediately, and do more DPS at the same time. It also means the irritating stun/stifle/fear AEs certain mobs have are less of an issue.</p><p>For an OT there's a lot to be said for taking this line over Crippling, since the MT will have Crippling specced out and hence you don't gain that much as a raid from 2 Cripple-specced Guards. Faster intercedes are useful; moderate enhanced isn't totally useless in an OT group, and rescue/reinforcement are no-brainers. Can still stick 5 points in Enhance: Decimate too.</p>

[Schmalex23]

A fighter in an AE w/o healers is kinda pointless.  Also correct me if im wrong since i have never even given this AA a second look but doesnt it only work for OTHER fighters and not yourself.

[ARSONSIT]

This lets you avoid AOEs for 15 seconds as long as your not the target. Great for off-tanking because you can avoid aoes by your self , like in VP <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />So even if your MT you can use it for your OT in the raid I think , unless if it's truely group only.

[Bramwe]

<cite>Kaveo@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>This lets you avoid AOEs for 15 seconds as long as your not the target. Great for off-tanking because you can avoid aoes by your self , like in VP <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" />So even if your MT you can use it for your OT in the raid I think , unless if it's truely group only.</blockquote>I am pretty sure you are not affected by it only the other fighters in your group.  If your group consists of a Guardian a Monk and four other non fighter classes only the monk would benefit from this.   No raid force would really ever have more than two fighters in a group and even then there are better ways to spend your points.  Now if they changed it to affect the members of your group it might be worth it.

[Rahatmattata]

<cite>Bramwell@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaveo@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>This lets you avoid AOEs for 15 seconds as long as your not the target. Great for off-tanking because you can avoid aoes by your self , like in VP <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" />So even if your MT you can use it for your OT in the raid I think , unless if it's truely group only.</blockquote>I am pretty sure you are not affected by it only the other fighters in your group.  If your group consists of a Guardian a Monk and four other non fighter classes only the monk would benefit from this.   No raid force would really ever have more than two fighters in a group and even then there are better ways to spend your points.  Now if they changed it to affect the members of your group it might be worth it.</blockquote>Target: Group (AE)Protects nearby fighters from opponent's Area Effect abilities, as long as they are not direct target.Word-for-word. It sounds like it would work on the guard too... it doesn't say protects <b>other</b> nearby fighters.... anyway, I don't really care and won't be taking this AA and never plan on testing it. Just typing it out word for word here for reference =PI guess if it does protect the guardian as well... it could occassionally see some use for a guard in an OT group that is scared of getting 1-shotted, or is low on HP or something. Like when tanking an add and you are dying and the main boss is about to blow an aoe.

[ARSONSIT]

<cite>Bramwell@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaveo@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>This lets you avoid AOEs for 15 seconds as long as your not the target. Great for off-tanking because you can avoid aoes by your self , like in VP <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" />So even if your MT you can use it for your OT in the raid I think , unless if it's truely group only.</blockquote>I am pretty sure you are not affected by it only the other fighters in your group.  If your group consists of a Guardian a Monk and four other non fighter classes only the monk would benefit from this.   No raid force would really ever have more than two fighters in a group and even then there are better ways to spend your points.  Now if they changed it to affect the members of your group it might be worth it.</blockquote>No , I'm 100% sure it works on -you- the guardian lol. I use it every time Silverwing or Ashenclaw ( what's his name? I never pay attention) does a wingbeat.

[ARSONSIT]

Block also works for you to avoid aoes.

[Bramwe]

<cite>Kaveo@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><cite></cite>No , I'm 100% sure it works on -you- the guardian lol. I use it every time Silverwing or Ashenclaw ( what's his name? I never pay attention) does a wingbeat.</blockquote>Ok, thanks for setting me straight.  Since you have the skill are we correct in saying that by Fighter they do in fact mean the Archetype Fighter and not simply anyone in your group?  The fact it works for the Guardian makes me think a little more of the skill since I am usually an OT in our raids and I wouldn't mind blocking some AOE's <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />It seems people(including me) think they know who this skill affects without actually knowing, lol.  It would be nice to have someone who has actually used it tell us since SOE likes to be a little unclear with their descriptions sometimes.

[ARSONSIT]

<cite>Bramwell@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaveo@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><cite></cite>No , I'm 100% sure it works on -you- the guardian lol. I use it every time Silverwing or Ashenclaw ( what's his name? I never pay attention) does a wingbeat.</blockquote>Ok, thanks for setting me straight.  Since you have the skill are we correct in saying that by Fighter they do in fact mean the Archetype Fighter and not simply anyone in your group?  The fact it works for the Guardian makes me think a little more of the skill since I am usually an OT in our raids and I wouldn't mind blocking some AOE's <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />It seems people(including me) think they know who this skill affects without actually knowing, lol.  It would be nice to have someone who has actually used it tell us since SOE likes to be a little unclear with their descriptions sometimes.</blockquote>Archetype Fighter only.

[Schmalex23]

So, it does nothing more then block AA would do in a standard raid group... down a sub par AA tree?

[Bramwe]

Well I tried it out and it did work just like block does for AOE's.  I was able to avoid pretty much every AOE in protectors realm with it and block(I am the OT).  Not sure if I like the idea of losing the Crippling line but we'll see how it goes(I had to take 5 out of enhance crumble and 5 out of enhance wound since I had the reinforcement/rescue combo at 5/5 already).  Our MT is down crippling(I think) so I am not losing much there...in T1 raiding anyway.  I am able to intercept our MT a couple seconds more often which doesn't seem to matter so far since getting too crazy with that gets me killed sometimes if I am not paying attention.  As the OT in PR it let me do a little better DPS on the Skeleton fights as well as on Imzok though which was nice since combat arts do not drop the skill and I didn't have to worry too much about exactly timing when to put block up.

[ARSONSIT]

Basically , yes.  It just has a longer duration , I like to use Block though for when I need to tank.

[ARSONSIT]

I like to put 5 5 5 into the reuse of reinforcement , rescue , and sentry watch though ,  so it isn't so bad.

[TuinalOfTheNexus]

<p>For an OT Stability is a great AA line. Why? Because the MT should have Crippling maxed, and your debuffs won't stack, so Crippling is wasted (except maybe 5 points in Decimate). And the immunity on Got Your Back does include yourself.</p><p>Somewhere like Thuuga avoiding the fear/stun AEs will help your DPS and thus your ability to take over if needed. Coupled with block there are very few mobs in the game you can't stay in 100% of the time on, which means you're always there to intercede or recapture.</p><p>Stability isn't much good for an MT except for the token points in rescue & reinforcement, but it does serve a definite and useful purpose.</p>

[Yimway]

This ability would be SO much more useful if it was changed to block up tp 3-4 nearby fighters in raid aoe instead of locked to group.  Just far too rare to set up multiple fighters in one group.We're looking at this line to assist in controlling Pawbuster to avoid some of the aoe trauma stuns he likes to fire off like mad.

[Elephanton]

Up... please make this AA at least somewhat useful...

[tujiro]

<p>I agree.  This skill should be raid wide to make it worth the points you spend on it.  I do appreciate the fact that it does work on the guard who casts it, but the offtank should be able to take a AE hit anyways.</p><p>Girrr</p>