Need a new server

[Pibly]

<p>WoW is in a stasis point now.  A new expansion is not due for at least a year.  People are getting tired of doing kara over and over and over.  A lot of folks are drifting here.</p><p>One of the most fun things you can do in any mmorpg is join a new server and race with your fellows to all the server firsts.  Given all the "heavy pop" servers here, seems to me its time for at least one new server, and oh the fun!</p><p>Blizz has sworn "no new servers ever".  This is a chance for EQ2 to gain a lot of population.  I guarantee there would be a huge influx if a new server were opened.</p><p>I know EQ2 went through server merges, which is traumatic.  But now is the perfect time to reverse that.  Come on SOE, time to expand and add NEW SERVERS!!</p>

[Tae]

<cite>Pibly wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know EQ2 went through server merges, which is traumatic.  But now is the perfect time to reverse that.  Come on SOE, time to expand and add NEW SERVERS!!</blockquote>There aren't enough people on half the servers as it is, there doesn't need to be more.

[Lasai]

<cite>Pibly wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>WoW is in a stasis point now.  A new expansion is not due for at least a year.  People are getting tired of doing kara over and over and over.  A lot of folks are drifting here.</p><p>One of the most fun things you can do in any mmorpg is join a new server and race with your fellows to all the server firsts.  Given all the "heavy pop" servers here, seems to me its time for at least one new server, and oh the fun!</p><p>Blizz has sworn "no new servers ever".  This is a chance for EQ2 to gain a lot of population.  I guarantee there would be a huge influx if a new server were opened.</p><p>I know EQ2 went through server merges, which is traumatic.  But now is the perfect time to reverse that.  Come on SOE, time to expand and add NEW SERVERS!!</p></blockquote><p>Racing for new server first was one of the most inane excercises of pixellated stupidity in WOW.  The rush to new server discoveries depopulated many many old servers and left them high and dry, and, these were not new accounts, just new characters on new servers.</p><p>Please, with thread after thread asking for more population on some of the servers we have, adding more servers to encourage this sort of nonsense would be criminal.</p><p>Since Blizzard has come to thier senses regarding the issue I see no need for SOE to step in and pick up a discarded, bad idea.</p>

[Noobcakes]

I'm sorry but I feel this would be a horrible idea. EQ2 is something you should take your time with. Those who want to race to be the first to [enter whatever meaningless achievment here] just to stroke their [Removed for Content]. Let them stick to WoW, we have a few but nowhere near as many.

[Effie]

<p>Even in EQ, the only server firsts that ever meant anything were contested raid targets.</p>

[Vonotar]

No.That is all, thank you.

[Iggyvyn]

<p>I wouldn't mind seeing Antonia Bayle split.  I don't really see the need for other new servers, though.</p><p>If they were to split AB, then I think it should be done with some sort of buy-in from the developers that one of the two resulting servers be a Roleplaying server.  Many people came to AB not for Roleplaying but because of its high population and now, guess what.  It is over-populated.  I don't really care whether it is AB or the new server that becomes the Roleplaying server, but if it were to be done I would at least hope that the developers would put out a statement to the effect of "if you don't have any intention of roleplaying, please do not transfer to the new server," or vice-versa.</p><p>New servers that are not a part of a larger plan to manage the population though, are in my opinion, not needed.</p>

[Croniccaster]

       Most servers, especially PVP servers, need more new people. What Sony has needed, and failed to do for a long time is promote the game so more people know it exists and give it a try. Do whats needed to fill up the servers we have, and then talk about adding new ones.

[Griffildur]

<p>in order for a lot more people to come over here , they would need to know about EQ2 first. SOE does nothing to prevent the game which makes people think they have no interest in doing so , for whatever reason. A new server is a bad idea at this time as existing folks would just start new toons there and you'd basically have the same old bunch on a new server. Where's the point ? </p><p>However as another poster said, we could do with a split for AB. Looking forward to that</p>

[Rahatmattata]

Splitting AB would be stupid and a lot more complicated than it first sounds. It's one of the few servers we have that actually has a fairly decent population. It's hard enough to find pick up groups as it is, especially in T7.I wouldn't mind seeing a new server if it had more of an original ruleset. I'm talking about meaningful xp debt, shard runs, original crafting system, Nek Forest and Ant and CL pre-ner... I mean pre-revamp, and the removal of xp vitality. This will most likely never happen of course, so no worries to all the haters.

[Iggyvyn]

<p>It would not be "stupid."  And I did not claim that it would not be complicated.</p><p>There are serious performance issues with AB.  <b>If</b> spliting the population would alleviate the performance issues, then it is certainly something that they should <b>consider</b> doing.</p><p>Having healthy populations on the resulting servers is also something that should be weighed in the decission.  But if the population is the cause of the performance problems then change should outweigh status qou.  Form follows function when solving technical problems.</p>

[Zard]

<cite>Iggyvyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I wouldn't mind seeing Antonia Bayle split.  I don't really see the need for other new servers, though.</p><p>If they were to split AB, then I think it should be done with some sort of buy-in from the developers that one of the two resulting servers be a Roleplaying server.  Many people came to AB not for Roleplaying but because of its high population and now, guess what.  It is over-populated. </p></blockquote><p>I'm not on AB but I agree with the reasoning here. AB is intended to be a RP server but is overpopulated now not due to the number of role-players but the number of players that just want to join a popular server. I feel sorry for the original players of AB, the ones that joined it because it is an RP server and not because it was popular.</p><p>Splitting servers would be tough -- especially if SOE does not want to create a new server. I feel they should offer free transfers <i>off</i> of AB for a limited time in an effort to re-distribute the population and ease the overcrowding on AB.</p>

[Gladiia]

<cite>Auric@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Iggyvyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I wouldn't mind seeing Antonia Bayle split.  I don't really see the need for other new servers, though.</p><p>If they were to split AB, then I think it should be done with some sort of buy-in from the developers that one of the two resulting servers be a Roleplaying server.  Many people came to AB not for Roleplaying but because of its high population and now, guess what.  It is over-populated. </p></blockquote><p>I'm not on AB but I agree with the reasoning here. AB is intended to be a RP server but is overpopulated now not due to the number of role-players but the number of players that just want to join a popular server. I feel sorry for the original players of AB, the ones that joined it because it is an RP server and not because it was popular.</p><p>Splitting servers would be tough -- especially if SOE does not want to create a new server. I feel they should offer free transfers <i>off</i> of AB for a limited time in an effort to re-distribute the population and ease the overcrowding on AB.</p></blockquote><p>I think this would be the better idea.  I would not only let people get off of the currently overloaded server, but at the same time would increase the population of other servers by at least a marginal amount.  </p><p>For that matter, I would think every couple of months SoE might take the most populated server, and allow people to transfer to a different server for no charge, just to help even out the populations.</p>

[mindchanger]

new server?? no tnx i play on permafrost and after rok exit i see kilong plain duped 5 time ,now after 2 month ,i stay too times lfg, because few people are online ( and i have a coercer ) .i hope in a server merge again or probably like many people of my guild close account , is not fun pass hour harvest or kill solo mob,with tons of thing to do .......

[swedago]

<p>I remember when Stromm went live on eq1.  Was great fun racing to see who could get to 70th 1st.  They alllowed no transfers to Stromm for one year, so at least for that time it was truly a Newbie Server.  I think that this may appeal to the new implants from WoW.</p><p>After the 1 year was up and people started doing all sorts of transfers, the server lost it's uniqueness.  So, if they decide to make a new server..  Make them start from scratch, and leave it without any transfers period.  </p>

[Rahatmattata]

<cite>Iggyvyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It would not be "stupid."  And I did not claim that it would not be complicated.</p><p><i><b>It would be stupid and *I* was the one that said it would be more complicated than you think.</b></i></p><p>There are serious performance issues with AB.  <b>If</b> spliting the population would alleviate the performance issues, then it is certainly something that they should <b>consider</b> doing.</p><i><b>That's a pretty backwards way to solve a problem. So instead of upgrading/fixing their hardware to accomidate an actual decent population, let's just yank half the players off the server and stuff them on X server. It's already hard enough to find groups to get stuff done. If they yank half the players and split the server, I quit (and I'm vendoring my stuff and destroying the plat so don't ask). I have no desire to play a MMO when it's a chore and a huge tedious time sink to find other players to play with. I've tried almost all the higher population servers, including Nagafen, and none come even close to having the community, amount of players, and willingness to pug that AB does.</b></i><p>Having healthy populations on the resulting servers is also something that should be weighed in the decission.  But if the population is the cause of the performance problems then change should outweigh status qou.  Form follows function when solving technical problems.</p></blockquote>

[Biaxil]

<cite>Pibly wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>WoW is in a stasis point now.  A new expansion is not due for at least a year.  People are getting tired of doing kara over and over and over.  A lot of folks are drifting here.</p><p>One of the most fun things you can do in any mmorpg is join a new server and race with your fellows to all the server firsts.  Given all the "heavy pop" servers here, seems to me its time for at least one new server, and oh the fun!</p><p>Blizz has sworn "no new servers ever".  This is a chance for EQ2 to gain a lot of population.  I guarantee there would be a huge influx if a new server were opened.</p><p>I know EQ2 went through server merges, which is traumatic.  But now is the perfect time to reverse that.  Come on SOE, time to expand and add NEW SERVERS!!</p></blockquote>You are the perfect reason why posting abilities should be a privilege and not a right.

[Vendolyn]

I think, if anything, a server or two should be given the option for a free transfer to another and then have it closed down for a little more higher pops elsewhere.  And I can fully understand AB's issue of needing less people there (free transfer off is a good idea there, too).<cite>Croniccaster wrote:</cite><blockquote>       Most servers, especially PVP servers, need more new people. What Sony has needed, and failed to do for a long time is promote the game so more people know it exists and give it a try. Do whats needed to fill up the servers we have, and then talk about adding new ones.</blockquote>Most of my friends who play WoW know EQ2 exists, and when I add in a comment about EQ2's gameplay to their WoW discussion, I'll get a LOLUSUX comment from them.  I don't know why, but EQ2 has a very odd and misleading reputation out there ><

[Biaxil]

<cite>Vendolyn@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think, if anything, a server or two should be given the option for a free transfer to another and then have it closed down for a little more higher pops elsewhere.  And I can fully understand AB's issue of needing less people there (free transfer off is a good idea there, too).<cite>Croniccaster wrote:</cite><blockquote>       Most servers, especially PVP servers, need more new people. What Sony has needed, and failed to do for a long time is promote the game so more people know it exists and give it a try. Do whats needed to fill up the servers we have, and then talk about adding new ones.</blockquote>Most of my friends who play WoW know EQ2 exists, and when I add in a comment about EQ2's gameplay to their WoW discussion, I'll get a LOLUSUX comment from them.  I don't know why, but EQ2 has a very odd and misleading reputation out there ><</blockquote>Explaining other MMOs to someone who loves wow is like reasoning with a wall.  It will get you nowhere.

[LordPazuzu]

Give the people on AB free transfers to Lucan to even out the populations on both servers.

[Vonotar]

<cite>Sulan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Give the people on AB free transfers to Lucan to even out the populations on both servers.</blockquote>Yes of course, we should abandon our high-pop RP server and come join your low-pop RP server because... umm... nope sorry, can't think of a reason.AB has been pretty stable of late.  Personally I would rather put up with a little flakeyness so that Sony can learn how to cope with high pop servers.  That way, if we truely do get innundated with WoW converts the powers that be will know how to upgrade all the other servers too.RoK proved that Sony is currently not ready for a 'mass appeal' flood of new users.  Let them work out AB's issues as a learning curve for the next major influx.Sony should focus on having the servers ready for the next Neriak style LU update (we're due a new Good city to complement Neriak) so that when this hits our servers the bored 'WoW' crowd will be able to join our servers without them collapsing.Let face it, if WoW's X Million players all signed up for EQ2 tomorrow and attempted to log in Sony would <%$%*> their pants!

[LordPazuzu]

<cite>Banedon@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sulan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Give the people on AB free transfers to Lucan to even out the populations on both servers.</blockquote>Yes of course, we should abandon our high-pop RP server and come join your low-pop RP server because... umm... nope sorry, can't think of a reason.AB has been pretty stable of late.  Personally I would rather put up with a little flakeyness so that Sony can learn how to cope with high pop servers.  That way, if we truely do get innundated with WoW converts the powers that be will know how to upgrade all the other servers too.RoK proved that Sony is currently not ready for a 'mass appeal' flood of new users.  Let them work out AB's issues as a learning curve for the next major influx.Sony should focus on having the servers ready for the next Neriak style LU update (we're due a new Good city to complement Neriak) so that when this hits our servers the bored 'WoW' crowd will be able to join our servers without them collapsing.Let face it, if WoW's X Million players all signed up for EQ2 tomorrow and attempted to log in Sony would <%$%*> their pants!</blockquote>Oooh, sarcasm so not required.  It's be a good solution for people who want a lower pop.  Certainly preferable to the server split some people seem to want.

[Vonotar]

<cite>Sulan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>Oooh, sarcasm so not required.  It's be a good solution for people who want a lower pop.  Certainly preferable to the server split some people seem to want.</blockquote>If they wanted a lower pop, why did they join AB in the first place?Personally I have no problem with the idea of free transfers if that's what Sony want to do, but AB is functioning fine for me, certainly much more stable than the days when I used to play on Splitpaw.  If you think AB has problems you should try one of the forgotten English EU servers which crash around all over the place.Since those people who joined AB for it's High Population will stay put, I can only see *some* RP'ers accepting a free move to Lucan, so basically you would be diluting the RP population of AB.No ThanksAB does not have a problem (or at least no more of a problem than other servers) anymore, and we don't need suggestions that would see AB being diluted to a regular server while LdL gains (hardcore*) RP'ers.Actually I have a better idea... Offer free transfers to the lowest population <i><b>non-RP</b></i> server (Kithicor?).  Sure RP'ers are unlikely to take that option, therefore non-RP'ers can opt to change their mind regarding joining AB.  This would be a better balancing of the populations that just balancing between AB and LdL.<span style="font-size: xx-small;">*I say hardcore since most players are RP'ers at heart, except for the min/maxers who have only picked a race, class and alignment to max certain stats without any emotional care for the character they are creating.</span>

[mindchanger]

you talk of free transfer server for balancing population ,and this is also for me the best system for fit this problem ,but there is any change of reply a this problem by a sony forum administrator ? probably ,because im italian my english spoke is not good, but if people on server have any news of server transfer free in next 3 months can wait ,but if sony continue to ignore the problem, probably alot of people close their account and with age of conan rdy for launch .an announcement of server transfer free by sony can solve this....

[Isolation]

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