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Takamori
12-18-2007, 11:03 AM
I have a 41 halfling necromancer I made a long time ago. I have 0 AAs and am decked out in mostly old-world items that a solo level 41 could get about a year ago. Most of my spells are Adept III or lower.Question is, should I restart? Is halfling a decent race for a necro now that the racials have changed so much? What about AAs? They sound like they would be much harder to earn starting at level 41?If I restart, I think I would start an Arasi necro, and head down to TD as soon as possible. Do I need to "betray" to Gorowyn from Neriak to take advantage of the TD quest lines? Is there a post that details the methods of doing this, if necessary?Thanks
KAAOSNurgling
12-18-2007, 11:21 AM
<cite>Takamori wrote:</cite><blockquote>Do I need to "betray" to Gorowyn from Neriak to take advantage of the TD quest lines? Is there a post that details the methods of doing this, if necessary?</blockquote>No, you don't need to betray. <span class="postbody">Once you start in Darklight Wood, go to Wanderlust Faire use the carpet there, then use the carpet in Sinking Sands, and you can select TD. Once you get to Gorowyn you'll have to run, and fly back to the Sarnak starting area if you are wanting to start at level one, and if so be prepared to die a few times, there are lots of agro mobs along the way.</span>
KBern
12-18-2007, 11:24 AM
<p>You are the only one to answer that question for yourself.</p><p>Are you gimped at 41 with no AA's? No, back when AA's were first put in, many were lvl 60.</p><p>If you don't like the race, then start over but you are not gimped at 41.</p>
Takamori
12-18-2007, 11:53 AM
Thanks for the responses.I think gimped might be a bit harsh. I guess I am asking if the boost from those early AAs will be enough boost to my strength to overcome the 41 level deficiency--basically will it be easier to get to 80 from level 41 with no AAs or level 1 with no AAs?I have enough cash to buy nice bags and keep my most important spells at Adept 3 for a level 1 to 41, post 41, I have no idea how long my plat will last.As far as the race goes, I chose Halfling because I thought a halfling necromancer was humorous but since all races were basically identical, it had no real game impact. Now that races seem to have more significant impact, We can modify the above levelling question to will it be easier to level a level 41 halfling with no AAs or a level 1 arasi with no AAs.Thanks!
Miztery
12-18-2007, 11:59 AM
<p>You are fine mate, and imho you should just keep your 41 Necro.</p><p>I came back my self, after a long brake, and my Necro was 52 or so, with 0 AA's.</p><p>Necro is 63 now, with around 40 AA's, which is definitely on the low side for my level, but it's really not that big of a deal once you get the most essential AA's (What those are, is another chat<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ).</p><p>So, truck on my young Necro friend, and most important of all, have fun!</p>
Mhedic
12-18-2007, 12:30 PM
I have to agree with Miztery on this one. 41 levels is a lot to over come from lvl 1 and you could use that plat you have to upgrade the 41 and make him all around good. I personally say keep on going with the 41. Race still isn't that big of an issue and on top of all that the halfling is a nice race due to the 25% extra duration on food/drink. Sure they may not offer you upgrade to int but you really don't need it with the gear you could have and as far as AA goes, just go back and discover some of the older content again. It should give you some AA for the discovery and there is a ton of content left to explore on top of the fact that if you should really want AA, just mentor down to a lower lvl and go Named Hunting for the AA. There are many ways of getting AA, so I don't think that should be a factor into your decision. So my vote would be to keep the 41 and play on. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Repler
12-18-2007, 03:07 PM
....if you really want to reroll though, it is definitely a lot easier to get to the AA cap if you start from level 10. Plus if the racials really bother you waiting til 80 is not the time to look back and think "if only". That being said, if you suck without the best possible racials, you're still going to suck no matter what race you are. Halfling necro sounds charming though.
Takamori
12-18-2007, 03:12 PM
Can you actually go back and get AA exp from explore points you have already gotten regular XP for and from nameds you have already killed?<cite>Mhedicin wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have to agree with Miztery on this one. 41 levels is a lot to over come from lvl 1 and you could use that plat you have to upgrade the 41 and make him all around good. I personally say keep on going with the 41. Race still isn't that big of an issue and on top of all that the halfling is a nice race due to the 25% extra duration on food/drink. Sure they may not offer you upgrade to int but you really don't need it with the gear you could have and as far as AA goes, just go back and discover some of the older content again. It should give you some AA for the discovery and there is a ton of content left to explore on top of the fact that if you should really want AA, just mentor down to a lower lvl and go Named Hunting for the AA. There are many ways of getting AA, so I don't think that should be a factor into your decision. So my vote would be to keep the 41 and play on. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote>
Azreaelle
12-18-2007, 03:24 PM
<cite>Takamori wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can you actually go back and get AA exp from explore points you have already gotten regular XP for and from nameds you have already killed?</blockquote>When they added AA's they "reset" the disco xp for old world zones so probably so. I think that this also applied to names but I am not positive on this.
Miztery
12-19-2007, 07:29 AM
<cite>Takamori wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can you actually go back and get AA exp from explore points you have already gotten regular XP for and from nameds you have already killed?<cite>Mhedicin wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have to agree with Miztery on this one. 41 levels is a lot to over come from lvl 1 and you could use that plat you have to upgrade the 41 and make him all around good. I personally say keep on going with the 41. Race still isn't that big of an issue and on top of all that the halfling is a nice race due to the 25% extra duration on food/drink. Sure they may not offer you upgrade to int but you really don't need it with the gear you could have and as far as AA goes, just go back and discover some of the older content again. It should give you some AA for the discovery and there is a ton of content left to explore on top of the fact that if you should really want AA, just mentor down to a lower lvl and go Named Hunting for the AA. There are many ways of getting AA, so I don't think that should be a factor into your decision. So my vote would be to keep the 41 and play on. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"></blockquote></blockquote><p>Yes to both Disco and Named <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Vonotar
12-19-2007, 08:15 AM
Join a few lower level groups (mentor them) to help bolster your AA.A couple of turns around each typical dungeon zone (BB,WC,FG,SH,ROV,NEK,RE) will pick up a lot of AA from disco and named, especially since the first few points come thick and fast (whereas getting 60+ or even 70+ is a major grind).
Vonotar
12-19-2007, 08:21 AM
<cite>Pestigor@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Takamori wrote:</cite><blockquote>Do I need to "betray" to Gorowyn from Neriak to take advantage of the TD quest lines? Is there a post that details the methods of doing this, if necessary?</blockquote>No, you don't need to betray. <span class="postbody">Once you start in Darklight Wood, go to Wanderlust Faire use the carpet there, then use the carpet in Sinking Sands, and you can select TD. Once you get to Gorowyn you'll have to run, and fly back to the Sarnak starting area if you are wanting to start at level one, and if so be prepared to die a few times, there are lots of agro mobs along the way.</span></blockquote>No need to encounter aggro. Once you arrive in TD, jump into the water and swim east, eventually the map will switch to show all three islands as one map. Just swim east until you reach the newb area.
Levatino
12-19-2007, 10:34 AM
aggro mobs? I headed several times to starter area but never ever had aggro. And no I didn't swim, just watch carefull where you walk.
Solarax
12-19-2007, 03:32 PM
ok here is my take on things.firstly i started out having lots of higher level charcters when AA came out . i tried to gain AA for them and was moderately successful BUT i decided to try a new class ( necro ) at lvl 20 i turned off all combat xp and had 100 aa at around lvl 65 and it only took me a a few weeks to level that high on quests alone.now on a previous level 60 conj leveling and going to 70 i only got about 24 aa before i hit level 70 . after that the aa also came slower.in fact in the time it took me to get 100aa and from lvl1-70 i could not reach 35 aa from lvl 60-70now in gorwyn from 1-20 there is a huge advantage . currently there is a lot of solo content in the game you can take advantage of that with quests alone you will easily make it to level 80 without ever needing to turn on combat xp.but you will if you hit lvl 60 or so and you are close to 100aa and want to hit 71 so you can get up to 140 aanow for the fun factor.i had a bit of money so i could twink and that in itself can be fun just shopping but more importantly you can get the needed spells which will help oyu along the waypersonally i dont mind starting over when it comes to adventuring ( crafting is another story) and actually enjoyed it a lot
<p>I would reroll. Although 41 seems high, you can get that in less than a month of solo'ing. An arasai is a good choice for a necro and has lots of perks. I see a lot of folks rolling sarnak everything's, but it'll get old soon enough. </p><p>There are some crazy good questlines to pick up. For example, from levels 10-18 or so, the Gfay quest camp next to the Steamfont entrance. TD might be better now, I'm not sure. It's just that Gfay camp is so easy and lucrative. Then starting at around 26 or so, the Zek docks quests, also crazy good. </p>
Grumble69
12-25-2007, 05:09 AM
There's an optimal growth curve that you probably want to follow for your xp & aa. If you go too slow (your case), I think your aa is going to be lower than you'd like at higher levels. However, you can focus too much on aa and reach your cap before 70 which means you got to grind it out, unless you use up your quests for xp while sacraficing aa. I haven't studied the two. But my gut feel is that by L45, you probably want your aa to be at 45 as well. My aa passed my lvl a little earlier than that and I'm now grinding a slight bit to 70.My advice is this--if you're wanting to solo/farm or be an elite raider, I'd start over and do some moderate questing along the way. If you're just playing for fun and not going to be a keystone char, then you might be able to slide by with what you have, assuming you focus solely on aa here-on-out. Necros are widely misunderstood. They're regarded as some overpowered class that's broken. Maybe. But you'll find that necros are *extremely* underpowered without AA abilities. I found it a struggle in those early levels (<30). But once you hit 50 with tainted heals and other goodies under your belt, the necro class begins to shine.
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