Hard-caps and soft-caps

[Nillafurr]

<p>Hello everyone,</p><p>I play a level 76 Warden on Venekor (PVP), and while I have been levelling from 70, my stats have naturally started going up quite a lot. While selfbuffed and wearing my raidgear, I currently sit at 856 wisdom, which gives me a powerpool of about 7,2k.</p><p>My question is, is there a cap on stats - and if there is, what is it? It might be a hard cap, so after, say, 1200 wisdom you don't get any more power/resists out of it, or it might be a soft cap, so after a fixed amount it yields less power/resists.</p><p>The question is what amount I should be aiming for, in both raids and pvp. I've thought about getting some items adorned, but the way it's looking now it's not going to be with wisdom - maybe strength (seeing as I'm melee-specced), or stamina for that extra survivability. Or health. Or power. Or......</p><p> Your thoughts appreciated.</p><p>- Nillafurr</p>

[Nillafurr]

<p>I've just read the following sentence here on the forum:</p><p>"The "cap" for all stats is (Level*15 +20) with diminishing returns at the higher levels (>600)."</p><p>So that means that the cap is (70*15)+20=1070.</p><p>BUT! Above is stated that you get diminishing returns at some point - surely it can't be at 600?</p><p>- Nillafurr.</p>

[DrOctober]

There are 3 breakpoints when talking about stat caps.(7 x Level) +20 .. Up to this point, you don't see any diminishing gains.(10 x Level) + 20 .. from 7x to 10x, you start seeing some diminishing returns, but still get good returns on your increases.(15 x Level) + 20 .. from 10x to the hardcap of 15x, you start seeing aggressive diminishing returns on your increases.

[Skivley101]

<cite>DrOctober wrote:</cite><blockquote>There are 3 breakpoints when talking about stat caps.(7 x Level) +20 .. Up to this point, you don't see any diminishing gains.(10 x Level) + 20 .. from 7x to 10x, you start seeing some diminishing returns, but still get good returns on your increases.(15 x Level) + 20 .. from 10x to the hardcap of 15x, you start seeing aggressive diminishing returns on your increases.</blockquote><p>Thank you DrOctober ... Ive always heard it was 7.5 (or there abouts) your level .</p><p>And your ploting of the curve is very helpful .</p><p>Have you figured out the deal with spell resists & where the dimishing returns are for that?</p><p>I figured out it was 2.4 resists across the board to 1 wisdom point, except when you had a particular resist up high , then it would drop down to about 1:1 .... I never figured out the magic # on this one for the curve.</p>

[Cathars]

<p>The changes to caps was at EoF launch.  Patch notes detailing it are here:</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=253135" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=253135</a></p><p>I'm not sure where the information about the discrete breaking points at 10*level etc came from.  First I've heard of it.</p>

[Skivley101]

<cite>Catharsis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #cc3333;">I'm not sure where the information about the discrete breaking points at 10*level etc came from.  First I've heard of it.</span></p></blockquote><p>Its not something that couldnt be figured out with some ingame testing, especially with the help of the right group mates for key stats.</p><p>Thanx for the link Catharsis , I really should read the update notes more often. Its just so hard to find the info that im interested in between all the seemingly useless stuff ....lol</p><p>So let me see if ive got this right as far as the skill caps are concerned ... (my Hypothesis)</p><p>The maximum skill you can have(or get benefit from) is 6.5 times your level  ... To a maximum benefit of 20% modification concerning hostile actions.</p><p>Each type of spell/CA carries its own modifier per rank , So it takes that number + the skill modifier to equal actual % less resisted.  For Example " Our Master rank single target Root has a 21% less resisted, and if you had your subjugation skill at 455 lvl 70 , You would recieve a 41% modifier for it being less resisted.</p><p>So Im kinda wondering where the 0% modifier on skill is (guessing at 5 times your lvl being the one you get too without any modifications) And if your below that, then you recieve a -% modifier.</p><p>If it was plotted on a graph, ofcourse I think you would find it curving because of  the diminishing returns rule ... Meaning you would probably see that last 1% modifier within your last 25 pts or so. </p><p>It probably has a similar curve to the one DrOctober was showing recieving most of the % benifit in the first half of the +skill from the 0% mark.</p><p>Thanx for bearing with me if youve read this far .....plz add any thoughts or comments <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>I'm wandering around in a mishmash of raid gear, RoK Treasured and a couple of KoS pieces and I sit at about 8900ish power self buffed at 74 (I think this counts food and drink...would have to look).   But it's all for naught because I don't match <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Thank you for plotting the curve, but it involves math...and now I have to retire for some hot chocolate because now my head hurts.  </p>

[Skivley101]

<cite>Arielle Nightshade wrote:</cite><blockquote>Thank you for plotting the curve, but it involves math...and now I have to retire for some hot chocolate because now my head hurts.  </blockquote><p>Oh i hadnt even begun to plot the curve ... but i went and tried to plot it , just for you ... lol</p><p>I know your all like Yada yada , but does the curve match with my earings ?... But in truth its not really that hard of a concept , Its more like im bad at explaining it , and you really dont give a crap.</p><p>I know you were in math class at one time, & you probably remember something like graphs with ploting lines ... I my self didnt give a crap till i found a real life use like this one ( gota luv a fantasy game being a real life use)</p><p>Here's a graph i threw together in mouse paint cuz, i suck at anything else , useing DrOctobers ruff calculations (cuz I didnt want to do all the actual ingame testing)  Im sure the line is actually more curvy , but  I got sick of trying to fudge it.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa259/Mktavish/?action=view&current=Statcurve.jpg" target="_blank">http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/...t=Statcurve.jpg</a></p><p>PS: Oh ya , I forgot to do the +20 thing with X factor ... so dont forget to add that if you want to plot your pwr amount. And also remember ... Your not insane if you hear voices , only if you awnser back. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>I kid.  I am an Excel Goddess.   </p><p>Of course I know what a curve is.  And you are right.  It DOESN'T match my earrings...but I truly DO care about it.</p><p>Seriously.</p>

[Skivley101]

<p>LoL , what are you doing up so late? ... and "Ha" I knew you just had an image to keep up with.</p><p>My comment about you not giving a crap was more to demonstrate a point about things are more easily understood when you have an intrest. Not that i was saying your Callus in anyway, except maybe with your pets ...<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />  lol</p>