Subjugation gear 60+ ???

[Skivley101]

<p>howdy all , Im having a hard time keeping 5 lvls above me charmed (and i have adept4 pet charm)</p><p>Any Idea's on gear that has + subj ,lvl 60-75 ,,, Cloth , Leather , dont matter ...plz post name if known.</p><p>Im looking to have atleast + 20  subj ....... i have the belt adorn and animist bracers ...thats +10 together , but I need more, I wish we had some AA's for it.   <i><span style="color: #33cc00;font-family: Arial Black;">freakin worthless Ordination skill ... <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></span></i></p>

[Skivley101]

<p>So Id like to thank you all for your vast amounts of input on this ... No really , becuz it forced me to search it out my self and found out i had +11 subj between 3 peices in the bank, then i found another  +15 on the broker , so now im at +36 subj. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>And cuz im sure you all wanted to know how its working ...I went and charmed a Tatter back in Kunzar(76) Im 71. Its not that they never brk anymore, But it really seemed to help. They seem as safe as charming the tiger's(74) when i had +10 subj ....but they sure take em down faster and dont require as much healing.</p><p>One thing ill say for pet charming compared to just killing them yourself, Is there aint noway i was gona be taking down the 77's by my self . At even con and just a couple above, Its still better to mele solo.</p>

[seejester]

<span style="font-size: small;color: #00ff00;">I'd like to find a list as well, since my broker filter doesn't allow for this... I browsed the Coercer Forums, and found out about the adornments. If I find anything, I'll add to the post, though only been looking starting today (and the servers are down, of course =)I thinking charming is still new for most of us, not surprising not many knew off-hand what the answer was.</span>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>Charming is new, but Subjugation isn't ..specially not for PvP Wardens.   As you know, that's what makes one of  your roots stick.  With subjugation maxed, I'm not sure extra stats would do much more, but not certain.</p><p>I cant think of specific subjugation gear off hand that isnt listed 'mage only'.  There are a couple of nice pieces with Subjugation on them from Halls of Seeing ...but no one is going there anymore.  And like I said, I think it's not available to priests.</p><p>I'll take a look and ask guildies that might still have a piece or two hanging around.   </p>

[Skivley101]

<p>LOL ...Oh sure ,when i ask for help, nobodys got any thing to say, but now that i figured it out , people have sumthin to say .... well nobodys getting any help from me <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> .... Joking , but yes after spending about 3 hours on the broker looking for subj gear, what i found out is that most of it is from KoS</p><p>Here's what i have , listed by available on broker and notrade</p><p>Adornments .... 1 for waist slot , 1 for symbol slot , most teirs i think , lvl 60 has +5 subj/+5 disrupt each one</p><p>Notrade Items .... Animist Bracers(forearms lvl 67,+5 subj) : Whip of Domination lvl 67 ( 1 hand weapon ,+2 subj) : Ancient Sathirian Amice (shoulders lvl 68 ,+2 subj)</p><p>Items Available on broker .... Aberrant Master's Helm (head lv 63, +5 subj) :The Pianist's Crest (Neck lvl 68, +4 subj) : Haunted stone earing(ears lvl 68, +2 subj) : Snapped Gossamir wristband (wrist lvl 68 ,+3 subj) : Wastewander cuffs (fore arm lvl 65, +5 subj) .   The earing and wrist's you can have 2 of.</p><p>Also ..... the Thorny manikin shoulder pads (+4 subj) : Hooluk imbued breeches (+3 subj) , I saw on the broker .</p><p>Im positive getting skill above max cap helps (for all skills) Its hard to say what the math is, But if you notice, you get 5 pts per lvl ..... so with simple math if your 5 pts above, then you should root/charm the same as even con 1 lvl above and so on with 5 pts per lvl . But im almost positive it doesnt work that way ,.... Like there is a times factor per lvl above you to equal how much is even con. And Rooting/Mezzing/charming have their own Curve on a graph.</p><p>For example with my short little test .... Charming 5 lvls above me seemed to be  similar to charming 3 lvls above me with adding 26 pts of subj.</p><p>Well hope that helps some people out , Ill get back with more info as i find it out. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Agh]

You want to charm pets roll a coercer, were a healer ffs and that what we should be designed to do.. don't given crap AA lines for solo'ing or PVP

[Skivley101]

<cite>Aghad@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>You want to charm pets roll a coercer, were a healer ffs and that what we should be designed to do.. don't given crap AA lines for solo'ing or PVP</blockquote><p>LOL .... Ye of narrow mindedness , But I guess I should expect that from some one in Requiem (refering to your sig from beta armour shot)</p><p>Oh wait i was in that guild .... Say hi from MK for me, if your still there.</p><p>And I do have a Coercer by the way , lvl 45 , just dont find it as fun as the warden.</p>

[Agh]

<cite>Skivley101 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aghad@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>You want to charm pets roll a coercer, were a healer ffs and that what we should be designed to do.. don't given crap AA lines for solo'ing or PVP</blockquote><p>LOL .... Ye of narrow mindedness , But I guess I should expect that from some one in Requiem</p></blockquote>You must be mistaken by another requiem, I'm the only warden that has been in requiem on NAJENA!!!!

[Skivley101]

<cite>Aghad@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Skivley101 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aghad@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>You want to charm pets roll a coercer, were a healer ffs and that what we should be designed to do.. don't given crap AA lines for solo'ing or PVP</blockquote><p>LOL .... Ye of narrow mindedness , But I guess I should expect that from some one in Requiem</p></blockquote>You must be mistaken by another requiem, I'm the only warden that has been in requiem on NAJENA!!!!</blockquote><p>Ahh sorry, i should have noticed the server by your name , me of narrow visionist.</p><p>your comment about being a healer first is true , But i would have to pull rank and say the first reason i play this game is to have fun. And my version of fun is by no means gona be anybody elses version in a box.</p><p>The devs gave us alot of tools , and i find it fun to maximize them anyway i can for what ever means is going to be to my fun time. </p><p>And these forums are just another tool the devs gave us to maximize our game experience, So  everybodys oppinion is more than welcome, as long as you pay your monthly fee ... <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Diiso]

<cite>Skivley101 wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>your comment about being a healer first is true , But i would have to pull rank and say the first reason i play this game is to have fun. And my version of fun is by no means gona be anybody elses version in a box.</p><p>The devs gave us alot of tools , and i find it fun to maximize them anyway i can for what ever means is going to be to my fun time. </p><p>And these forums are just another tool the devs gave us to maximize our game experience, So  everybodys oppinion is more than welcome, as long as you pay your monthly fee ... <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote> Amen to this.  I have been thinking of making a warden rather than a fury for the healing aspect but not sure if thats the right move.  This post just gave me a whole different reason to play this class its fun to experiment with new stuff.  I am new to this game so its fun to be back in semi-eq mode again after playing wow which was absolutely terrible.

[Agh]

Don't get me wrong Diiso the Warden is one the best healers as in pumping out health regen, but really it stops there. Most other healers have something else that they bring to the table the warden really doesn't have much. I really enjoy playing my warden but they really need to do something to balance it all out.

[Skivley101]

<cite>Aghad@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>Don't get me wrong Diiso the Warden is one the best healers as in pumping out health regen, but really it stops there. Most other healers have something else that they bring to the table the warden really doesn't have much.I really enjoy playing my warden but they really need to do something to balance it all out.</blockquote><p>Aghad is right when you take the warden to the raiding lvl about healing ... The warden has the most awesome healing potential , But it becomes not needed when the Raid force is practiced & the fury actually becomes more healing efficient (some of us<i> did some calculations, can drag up old thread if want) </i></p><p>And FYI Diiso, If it was about the charming that peaked your intrest ? The fury can do it also , Its on the druid achievment tree.</p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>Oh FFS...I just noticed that I have the Draconic Accord Blade (drops from Vyemm in Labs):</p><p>+15 STR, +15 STA, +22 WIS, +18 INT   75 Health, 80 Power, +7 Subjugation, +40 Heal</p><p>Pretty nice ..for now. You could probably single group Labs now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Skivley101]

<cite>Arielle Nightshade wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh FFS...I just noticed that I have the Draconic Accord Blade (drops from Vyemm in Labs):</p><p>+15 STR, +15 STA, +22 WIS, +18 INT   75 Health, 80 Power, +7 Subjugation, +40 Heal</p><p>Pretty nice ..for now. You could probably single group Labs now <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> OOooo ... That thing looks pretty nice ,especially the subj , whats the dmg rating?

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>::: Deer in Headlights:::</p><p>62..? somthing?  Let me check I'm not in game</p><p>Edit:  Just checked ..it's 73.7   29-88  and it's  1.6 seconds</p>