last great ideas for the new pvp rules that everybody can live with

[wellehad0]

<p>ok we all know most peopel do not like this but we also all know its SOE's game and they will do waht ever thy want..</p><p>biggest problem i have with this is with defending yourself.. you should not be punished from defending yourself.. here is what i think alot of peopel have problems with and if this little idea was put in  i really think most of the complainers really would not have nothing to complain about...</p><p>1 make PVP faction gear need less faction to get....</p><p>2. NO combat EXP unless you are the one who enganged first..... yes in alot of tiers the exp would be very low but in t2 it is ALOT... most peopel ave problems with what is in test server due to in t2 it could mean getting that it could put you off the AA pace early..... there are alot of peopel who are addicted to getting the most AA points they can each lvl.. all the new rules would cause everybody in t2 to be nothing but runners  (lol just like in t7-t<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ok here is another reason why we should atleast be allowed to defend ourselfes.. we have all seen thoughs players who attack us and we kill them jsut to have that same player attack you over and over again.. heck now there would be another way to grief all you would have to do is attack the same player over and over because if you kill them they get no EXP but you will gain EXP every single time...</p><p>i would also like each pvp gear to scale with you in lvls... say a lvl 20 PVP chest gear once you have it it should scale in lvl and stop scaling 1 lvl before you get the option to buy another PVP chest piece....... the only reason i am asking for th escaling of pvp gear is due to now you wont be able to stay in one tier long enough to use it long enough.. right now you can stay in one tier for life if you wanted to with the new rules you should advance to the next tier in days or weeks..... pvp gear is not worth it if you out lvl it in a day or so....</p><p>last and not least redo the arena... hey we all agree right now EQ2 PVP is way better then WOW's battle ground sytem but in wow's system you can stay at the same lvl for a long time and do nothing but just battlegrounds........ heck battlegrounds kills world PVP but it also will give peopel who are looking for fun large scale battles..</p><p> 3. starting at t3 you should gain AAxp from killing a player for the first time.. sop say you see a guy like me Qslaughter the first time you killed me you would get AAxp just like you would from a name. only reason i suggest tier 3 to start this is so that you will have less peopel trying to make alts jsut so there friend can kill them</p><p>i hope that atleast some of the people who hate lockers and twinks would support some of my ideas because even though a few twinks wont like any of these atleast they go a great way to atleast make PVP fun and not jus tsomthing you do every once in a while</p>

[tass]

hahaha1. hahah ahh ehem2. what if someone is killing people and npcs for xp and they get attacked and they kill the person. So they get F&%$ed out of their xp?p3. lol look to number 1. Hell you might as well take everything out of the game for aa gain because why would you even try? I mean if I can wack jacknwack over their why would you do some [Removed for Content] quest.

[Elephanton]

Why is it necessary to always create new threads instead of just posting your genious thoughts in the main one?

[Krokous]

all i see here are 2 lockers who spam this section, give it up guys and live with it.

[Roald]

<p>1) yes</p><p>2) no</p><p>3) meh</p>

[Bojin]

Battlegrounds would both solve alot of problems, and probably bring more new players in. It's about time EQ2 started to work out a battleground system.The game engine itself is so much better than wow, or vanguard, let's see it implemented more creatively.

[MaCloud1032]

<p>1. sorry but all of the pvp gear can be gotten with out ever locking.  ive done it as have others.</p><p>2. LOL and thend some.  Ya that will be the day watching everyone not engauge in pvp anymore cuz the poor baby might level up.  classic3. Keep dreaming that wet dream.  This is world pvp not arena where everyones a winner</p>

[wellehad0]

<cite>Darksavanna@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>1. sorry but all of the pvp gear can be gotten with out ever locking.  ive done it as have others.</p><p>2. LOL and thend some.  Ya that will be the day watching everyone not engauge in pvp anymore cuz the poor baby might level up.  classic3. Keep dreaming that wet dream.  This is world pvp not arena where everyones a winner</p></blockquote><p>sorry that is a joke right on the world PVP part.. PVP right now is nothing but ganks you have one group camping a place and killing any solo in site the the same group evacs when they see another group comming... PVP  has alwasy been a joke in this game yet most of us came to love it due to we could stay at one tier..</p><p>also on the person who posted why i do not post in the main forum.. well its because a few carebears over and over flood the threads wich such crap that few things are read on each page do to so much random crap on it....</p><p>Its also funny the peopel who are PRO new EXP for PVP are the same ones who dont want to give a little when it comes to trying to make everybody happy.. if this patch goes through then yes alot of peopel will go back to WOW.. this has to be the worst idea ever just to make a few carebears happy.. all i can say if SOE jsut puts the PVP EXP wihtout atleast tweaking it or adding somthing then PVP IS DEAD</p>

[MaCloud1032]

<cite>Qslaughter@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Darksavanna@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>1. sorry but all of the pvp gear can be gotten with out ever locking.  ive done it as have others.</p><p>2. LOL and thend some.  Ya that will be the day watching everyone not engauge in pvp anymore cuz the poor baby might level up.  classic3. Keep dreaming that wet dream.  This is world pvp not arena where everyones a winner</p></blockquote><p>sorry that is a joke right on the world PVP part.. PVP right now is nothing but ganks you have one group camping a place and killing any solo in site the the same group evacs when they see another group comming... PVP  has alwasy been a joke in this game yet most of us came to love it due to we could stay at one tier..</p><p>also on the person who posted why i do not post in the main forum.. well its because a few carebears over and over flood the threads wich such crap that few things are read on each page do to so much random crap on it....</p><p>Its also funny the peopel who are PRO new EXP for PVP are the same ones who dont want to give a little when it comes to trying to make everybody happy.. if this patch goes through then yes alot of peopel will go back to WOW.. this has to be the worst idea ever just to make a few carebears happy.. all i can say if SOE jsut puts the PVP EXP wihtout atleast tweaking it or adding somthing then PVP IS DEAD</p></blockquote>PvP will be dead for you and the few others that will quite.  For me and many like me it will live on.   /tiphat

[Bloodfa]

<cite>Qslaughter@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Darksavanna@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>1. sorry but all of the pvp gear can be gotten with out ever locking.  ive done it as have others.</p><p>2. LOL and thend some.  Ya that will be the day watching everyone not engauge in pvp anymore cuz the poor baby might level up.  classic3. Keep dreaming that wet dream.  This is world pvp not arena where everyones a winner</p></blockquote><p>sorry that is a joke right on the world PVP part.. PVP right now is nothing but ganks you have one group camping a place and killing any solo in site the the same group evacs when they see another group comming... PVP  has alwasy been a joke in this game yet most of us came to love it due to we could stay at one tier..</p><p>also on the person who posted why i do not post in the main forum.. well its because a few carebears over and over flood the threads wich such crap that few things are read on each page do to so much random crap on it....</p><p>Its also funny the peopel who are PRO new EXP for PVP are the same ones who dont want to give a little when it comes to trying to make everybody happy.. if this patch goes through then yes alot of peopel will go back to WOW.. this has to be the worst idea ever just to make a few carebears happy.. all i can say if SOE jsut puts the PVP EXP wihtout atleast tweaking it or adding somthing then PVP IS DEAD</p></blockquote><p>Quoted, because there's no way this <i>won't</i> be edited after he rereads it and thinks it helps his cause.</p><p>Also, there have been cries to change PvP for over a year.  We've made suggestions, and the general response from T2 lockers was either "L2P" or "Go back to a blue server!"  Those that were interested in making changes suggested them.  We came up with walkthroughs.  We came up with volunteers willing to take new players under our collective wings.  We came up with suggested quests to acclimate newbies.  We asked for starting faction to be set to Zero instead of -10,000.  We asked for changes ... and the usual reply from T2 lockers, unless it had an immediate tangible benefit to those already locked & twinked, was more or less telling us to get bent.  Either they'll adapt or they weren't really cut out for PvP.  Ironic, isn't it? </p><p>If SOE thought that the loss of those screaming "We'll quit!" would be more than the loss of those new accounts of players being turned off from the git-go, do you <i>really</i> think that they'd have spent time and resources addressing it?  It's a business.  If a group of kids in their late teens goes into a convenience store, spends their coin, leaves, and does so on a regular basis, that's good business.  If they come in, spend their coin, and hang out blocking the door and harassing <u>everybody else that comes in after them</u>, business falls off.  The shopkeeper that fails to do something to address the problem has no one to blame but himself when he has to close up his business.  </p><p>As a side comment, I'm still all for the changing of the starting faction so that the gear can be attained more easily and within range of new players.  </p>