Need advice / info on Hierophant Obfuscation druid AA wis line

[Larsbohnstedt]

<p>Title says it all, I was hoping someone had tested this and could explain exactly how it works..</p><p>Will it offer a chance to absorb spells from all kinds of mobs including AE's from raid encounters? </p><p>Thanks in advance.</p>

[gita]

my best advice its stay away from WIS line <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I think its the only line i not tryed hehe, good luck finding a warden who got that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Goodwill]

Strange, I'm a Warden, and I thought that WIS where the way to go?

[Arielle Nightshade]

Agree with Gitana here.  The only good part about the WIS line is the first 8 points you can put into it that beefs up your stats.  Otherwise the things offered are not always helpful.Since I only played with the WIS line on a PvP server, you can see how being killed first (since that's the strat: Kill the Healer first) and rezzing to be killed again..just isn't that good of a time.   In other situations, that ability can come in handy, but with a myriad of other classes with feign death and whatnot, just not valuable enough to put 20 something points into.

[gita]

/sarcasm onYeah in fact its the line who got the more useful skills/sacasm offTo be honest maybe at lower level can find extra +WIS useful. But when get to lvl 70-80 u gonna have a excess of WIS stat and the skills who the line offers are really bad and poor compared to any of the other druid lines.Anyways if u happy on it, good for you, that its for what AA lines are, to made players different.

[Skivley101]

<p>well the second ability on that line isnt totally useless , aoe root with dispell root also while doing mele dmg <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />.</p><p>But the description of the Obfuscation leaves you wondering a little , says only Racial & profession spells ....I know Ryala described them once awhile back , but wasnt sure how they pertained to what the mobs were hitting you with. </p><p> To maybe awnser the OP ...I guess they would also pertain to epics where applicable, If you can figure out what spells it refers too. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[gatrm]

<p>Heh....I never thought I'd see the day.  Hell must be freezing over or something, but I actually agree with Gitana.  I think that must be the only thing melee and casting wardens can agree on- the wis line is worthless.</p><p>I wouldnt be adverse to going 4-1 wis, just to get the aoe root/extra CA- but that is the only reason I would do it.  </p><p>There are plenty of ways to get wisdom gear.  If you are low, get a couple of addornments, but the AA lines should never be chosen because of what gives you power</p>

[Skivley101]

<cite>gatrm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Heh....I never thought I'd see the day.  Hell must be freezing over or something, but I actually agree with Gitana.  I think that must be the only thing melee and casting wardens can agree on- the wis line is worthless.</p><p>I wouldnt be adverse to going 4-1 wis, just to get the aoe root/extra CA- but that is the only reason I would do it.  </p><p>There are plenty of ways to get wisdom gear.  If you are low, get a couple of addornments, but the AA lines should never be chosen because of what gives you power</p></blockquote>Well maybe we need to research this Obfuscation , It might be a very handy raid tool? , The in combat movement speed could also be handy for jousting epics .... Im still of the opinion the endline is almost useless except a few situations though. Like if your doing an instance with repops and you plan on wipeing , but even then , it has to be timed well , from guessing ......sorry ive never even gone passed the mele root aoe ...lol

[Larsbohnstedt]

<p>The reason I'm asking is that I've tried every other druid line.. never bothered with the WIS line but there's this little voice inside my head (one of them anyway) that says Hierophant Obfuscation must be worth something.</p><p>Unfortunately, the max level of profession or NPC racial spell (whatever that means) blocked seems to scale with my level so it may not work against 81+ enounters.. would really like to know for sure though.</p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>How is the WIS line block better than the AGI line block?  I mean, given that the AGI line is REALLY useful for Wild Regeneration, and now with a new expansion full of Animals for charm.  (This is a serious question..not being argumentative)</p><p>On my Templar, the AOE block which is similar doesn't always block.  Tortoise Shell does.  Is it the stun component that would make it less desireable?</p><p>And yes, I agree with not taking WIS just for the WIS stat - at higher levels.  At lower levels, gear isn't as good with +power and/or +WIS and sometimes it helps to have some points socked away in just the first ability of that line.  At least until you hit level 60ish when KoS and EoF gear sort of blew the rest of the previous games' gear out of the water with regard to that.</p><p>That's why I always offer that advice.  Once you hit 58ish, you can start respecing out of WIS into something a bit more useful, IMO.</p>

[mee]

I used to have the line on my fury back when the fourth (I think it's fourth) ability used to reduce hate generated rather than the ability to absorb a spell. The initial ability made sense for me in my group at the time. I saw no reason to keep the line after it was changed. I'm sure there are druids out there who may find it useful or worth it to them, and PVP is a good point - if it works well there. Personally I think there are better lines, but as was said, the point to AA is to help you play your character how you want to play them. I don't think it's uncommon for druids to go far enough down the line for the run speed though, especially now with the added AA.

[Lugorix]

I'm still wondering about hierophant obfuscation myself. I'm thinking about experimenting with the wisdom line to get the +10 speed to stack on 45% sow + J-Boots, putting my speed at a constant 65% not including food/drinks etc.. If anyone went further down for heirophant obfuscation, lemme know how it works so I can better decide if i should go further or not. I need to know if it's usefull in pvp. Thanx

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>Rebirth, or whatever it is at the end of the WIS line...is not my idea of a Good Time in PvP.  Just my 2.</p><p>Im Dreadnaught Ariel, as well as:</p>

[Lugorix]

<cite>Arielle Nightshade wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Rebirth, or whatever it is at the end of the WIS line...is not my idea of a Good Time in PvP.  Just my 2.</p><p>Im Dreadnaught Ariel, as well as:</p></blockquote>I agree, rebirth does not sound appealing at all. Not something I would want to put two points in. I'd imagine that the minority of wardens who actually  take this wisdom line down probably stop short of the title to save the points , heh. Still waiting to hear from someone with Hierophant Obfuscation though. From the looks of it ( at 1.5 % for first rank ), it looks like it prolly only maxes out around 12% or so. Just wondering how effective this really is at avoiding hostile spells in pvp.

[Meirril]

<p>I've got the line currently. Its...interesting. I'm on a PvE server so I really don't have to worry about other players. The re-res ability has saved a few groups. You come back with 40% health and power, plus no res effects. The downside is there are just as many times that I've essentially taken two repair hits for the price of one.</p><p>I've never noticed the Hierophant's Obfuscation line actually working. It is kinda the nature of the beast. Its really hard to notice when something misses you. I do occasionally get missed by things like group fear, but I'm never sure if that's due to this ability or just range. However, according to its own wording it would have NO effect on PvP. This ability isn't suppose to counter class abilities, it is suppose to counter the rest of the effects in the game. So if your raid boss is a defiler it won't stop his disease dot spell, but it might stop his innate non-class AE attack. </p><p>The extra run speed is nice. I keep up with the best horses in game. I never use the melee attack, mainly because I'm a casting druid. Also because if they are that close I'm more likely to reach for our deagro that also roots. As for dispelling roots...I've got nature walk. I'm immune to root!</p><p>I've been thinking about ditching this line in favor of Animalism. Of course, if I do that its very tempting to just respec for melee to try it out and see what that's like. That probably means buying a new set of armor too.</p>