Alow people to xfer off station exchange.

[Lirdan]

Honestly it has been a year+ when are you going to allow us to buy the character's then xfer them off i don't see how it would hurt any one your only losing money soe.

[Josgar]

That goes for the non pvp SE server if that happens too.Honestly I doubt it will though. Even if one could prove they never bought or sold ANYTHING on the SE people would still label you. /sigh

[Xanet]

The following is just an opinion...They have station exchange server available for those people that do not mind playing or participating in a rmt environment.  If you wish to buy a character, then do it on the station exchange servers as the majority of players on the non exchange servers are against rmt.  Most players would rather feel the satisfaction of earning their place on the server rather than buying it.  you may find this hard to believe but a lot of the people on the exchange servers do not participate in rmt.  Many do not care if others particpate or not.SOE has stated what comes on or starts on the exchange servers stays on the exchange servers.  This was done to help control a lot of the scamming taking place on auction sites.  I suppose the only way it would work to transfer from an exchange server back to a regular server is if the character came over with nothing but the rags on his back...If the buyer doesn't know how to play a character at the level (70 for example) then they have a lot of work to do to gain respect among the guilds and players of the new server. Who wants to group with a level 70 character that doesnt know one ability from another?

[SolomanShort]

I could never understand why anybody would want to purchase their character / gear / spells with RL money. This is a game; where is the satisfaction in purchasing your character?Lame imo.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Supernatural@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could never understand why anybody would want to purchase their character / gear / spells with RL money. This is a game; where is the satisfaction in purchasing your character?</blockquote>We have many people who believe 3 days was too long to level up to the new cap of 80. The same get frustrated when they weren't able to get all the available uber gear along the way.For these people, there is Station Exchange. One or Two paypal payments or whatever payment methods SE accepts and they can skip the hassle of leveling that the rest of us enjoy so much.Remember.. we are playing with a new generation of players these days. Unfortunately, many of them are the "I want it all and I want it yesterday!". <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Xova]

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Supernatural@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could never understand why anybody would want to purchase their character / gear / spells with RL money. This is a game; where is the satisfaction in purchasing your character?</blockquote>We have many people who believe 3 days was too long to level up to the new cap of 80. The same get frustrated when they weren't able to get all the available uber gear along the way.For these people, there is Station Exchange. One or Two paypal payments or whatever payment methods SE accepts and they can skip the hassle of leveling that the rest of us enjoy so much.Remember.. we are playing with a new generation of players these days. Unfortunately, many of them are the "I want it all and I want it yesterday!". <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote>That is a completely unfair assessment, spoken by someone who clearly doesn't understand the dynamic of playing on an SE server. Usually I find your posts insightful and thought-provoking, but here you disappoint. Are there some people that buy characters out of laziness? Sure. But broadly painting us with the same brush is just ignorance on your part. Additionally, anyone who pays attention to the SE servers could tell you that gear is rarely ever sold on the exchange, and that the best gear in-game must b earned and cannot be "bought". Next time do a little more research before making assumptions about a playstyle you don't even partake in./rantoff@Supernatural: As an SE player, the satisfaction for me lies in being able to place additional "real-world" value on something that normally would only have personal value. It's also helpful to be able to use the SE in cases of need - as an example my guild found itself short on Inquisitors at one point and I was able to pick up an Inquisitor someone was selling to quickly fill that need.I'm sure that part of the motivation to "not grind" factors in with some people - it has with me on occasion - but the reality is that most of those people have already been through "the grind" numerous times. A lot of people that buy characters (on Vox at least - can't speak for Bazaar) tend to be experienced EQ2 players (note: not necessarily experienced at the class.) So I don't really fault them for not wanting to do the newbie grind for the 5279835789th time.

[SolomanShort]

OK Xova, I take your point. I really shouldn't paint everyone that plays on an SE server with the same brush. I understand that you can go purchase yourself a character that is needed to fill a missing raid party. It just seems wrong to me. I play with (mainly) just one RL friend, when I'm not out trying new and exciting ways to die with the Shadow Lords :pWhen my friend and I decide to try something new, we roll new characters and I REALLY think that rolling a new character and learning that character is the way to go. Purchasing said character just seems to be, well, wrong. I didn't mean to point fingers and label you so, so for that, I apologise. It's just difficult. I respect what you have to say Xova, your posts are genearally a great read, more often than not informative (thanks for the heads-up about the Fan Faire), but I see your sig, and wonder..... did you BUY those toons?!!? Now, this isn't about money, I am in the fortunate position to be able to afford what I want. I just don't (I really don't!) see the need to have an SE server. If you REALLY need an inquisitor for your raid party, how long would it take to purposefully get a top end inquisitor? I am guessing not long... you have a whole raid force to help you level!Anyways, I am merely expressing my opinion. I am not right, you are not right. It's an opinion. This time, I'm right tho' *evil grin*

[TheSpin]

<cite>Xova wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Supernatural@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could never understand why anybody would want to purchase their character / gear / spells with RL money. This is a game; where is the satisfaction in purchasing your character?</blockquote>We have many people who believe 3 days was too long to level up to the new cap of 80. The same get frustrated when they weren't able to get all the available uber gear along the way.For these people, there is Station Exchange. One or Two paypal payments or whatever payment methods SE accepts and they can skip the hassle of leveling that the rest of us enjoy so much.Remember.. we are playing with a new generation of players these days. Unfortunately, many of them are the "I want it all and I want it yesterday!". <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"></blockquote>That is a completely unfair assessment, spoken by someone who clearly doesn't understand the dynamic of playing on an SE server. Usually I find your posts insightful and thought-provoking, but here you disappoint. Are there some people that buy characters out of laziness? Sure. But broadly painting us with the same brush is just ignorance on your part. Additionally, anyone who pays attention to the SE servers could tell you that gear is rarely ever sold on the exchange, and that the best gear in-game must b earned and cannot be "bought". Next time do a little more research before making assumptions about a playstyle you don't even partake in./rantoff@Supernatural: As an SE player, the satisfaction for me lies in being able to place additional "real-world" value on something that normally would only have personal value. It's also helpful to be able to use the SE in cases of need - as an example my guild found itself short on Inquisitors at one point and I was able to pick up an Inquisitor someone was selling to quickly fill that need.I'm sure that part of the motivation to "not grind" factors in with some people - it has with me on occasion - but the reality is that most of those people have already been through "the grind" numerous times. A lot of people that buy characters (on Vox at least - can't speak for Bazaar) tend to be experienced EQ2 players (note: not necessarily experienced at the class.) So I don't really fault them for not wanting to do the newbie grind for the 5279835789th time. </blockquote><p>This is an excellent post and gives a much more positive spin on the station exchange server than I imagine most non SE players have. </p><p>I do want to point out that this post, while an excellent response to the post it was actually responding to, does little to support the OP's idea of allowing SE players to transfer off onto normal servers.  Even if only a small population of players are not experienced with the game, that small population is enough to ruin it for the rest of the SE players who want to move.  It's much more likely that a less experience person would want to move from a server than one who has been playing there for a long time.</p>

[Xova]

<cite>Supernatural@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>OK Xova, I take your point. I really shouldn't paint everyone that plays on an SE server with the same brush. I understand that you can go purchase yourself a character that is needed to fill a missing raid party. It just seems wrong to me. I play with (mainly) just one RL friend, when I'm not out trying new and exciting ways to die with the Shadow Lords :p<span style="color: #9900ff;">When I made that comment I was actually directing it to Spyderbite, not you.</span>When my friend and I decide to try something new, we roll new characters and I REALLY think that rolling a new character and learning that character is the way to go. Purchasing said character just seems to be, well, wrong. I didn't mean to point fingers and label you so, so for that, I apologise. It's just difficult. <span style="color: #9900ff;">I understand that it's not a concept others will get, and that's fine. It's a playstyle. And you'd be surprised at how quickly one can learn a class. I know people that have played their toons through all 70 levels and still suck, and I know people that picked up a toon at 70 and play it better then most others. For you, it's better to start from scratch, learning as you go. For me, I can pick up a toon at any level and start playing it off the bat (except Inquisitors - for some reason I suck at playing an Inquis, lol.)</span>I respect what you have to say Xova, your posts are genearally a great read, more often than not informative (thanks for the heads-up about the Fan Faire), but I see your sig, and wonder..... did you BUY those toons?!!? Now, this isn't about money, I am in the fortunate position to be able to afford what I want. I just don't (I really don't!) see the need to have an SE server. If you REALLY need an inquisitor for your raid party, how long would it take to purposefully get a top end inquisitor? I am guessing not long... you have a whole raid force to help you level!<span style="color: #9900ff;">Like I said, SE is a playstyle. Most people really don't use the service other than buying characters, and I outlined some of the reasons for doing that. Some use it for plat, though right now our plat prices are ridiculous. Beyond that, being that Vox is unfortunately a low-pop server, it's not easy to just go out and recruit a certain class. It's actually more effective for us to have people in guild that are "jacks of all trades" that can pick up a class and play it depending on our needs for the moment. For example I have a dirge, two Furies, Warden, Defiler, Inquisitor, Coercer, and Berserker that I will play depending on what my guild needs. We need a tank? I can get on my Zerker. We need power regen and buffs? I hop on the Dirge. We need heals? Pick a healer. Being able to pinch-hit on Vox is a very good thing.As for the ones listed in my sig (which I should actually update, thanks for reminding me) I bought those, though truthfully some I acquired so long ago that they're more mine than they ever were anyone else's. Plus I have like 24 characters being as I  suffer from alt-ism, lol. I tend to list the ones I am currently playing, just so people know who to look me up on if they needed to.</span>Anyways, I am merely expressing my opinion. I am not right, you are not right. It's an opinion. This time, I'm right tho' *evil grin*<span style="color: #9900ff;">You're right in that it's an opnion, but that's about it. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></blockquote>Comments in <span style="color: #9900ff;">purple</span>!

[Xova]

<cite>TheSpin wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is an excellent post and gives a much more positive spin on the station exchange server than I imagine most non SE players have. </p><p>I do want to point out that this post, while an excellent response to the post it was actually responding to, does little to support the OP's idea of allowing SE players to transfer off onto normal servers.  Even if only a small population of players are not experienced with the game, that small population is enough to ruin it for the rest of the SE players who want to move.  It's much more likely that a less experience person would want to move from a server than one who has been playing there for a long time.</p></blockquote>Thank you. To respond to the rest of your comments, most people on Vox would rather stay ON VOX. I personally do not want to transfer to another server. I'm not into non-stop PvP like one might find on Nagafen, and though I have one character on Venekor, the non-SE aspect of it does little to fuel my alt-ism. What I, and many others, would prefer is to see SOE better promote the SE service and offer better incentives to players who choose to play there in order to boost up our population.Vox is a trap, yes - once you are there you are stuck there. It's a precaution. A good number of us embrace that willingly and make the best of it. Others, like the OP, are frustrated and dissatisfied and wish to leave. The irony is that the biggest problem we deal with is the negative assumptions people on these boards frequently make about our server, so then people like myself have to post and try to dispel the "bad press". Beyond that, the population problems we have are not restricted to just our server. Venekor struggles as well, and it is not an SE server. So the solution is not to "allow transfers off Vox" but rather for SOE to come up with a better plan to boost our server's population.