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shogun007
11-23-2007, 04:51 PM
Hi i have a quick question for you coercers . Is there any way to check pet stats and spells like summoners do with Possession spell ? I know there is list of mobs that have nukes but i am curious if its possible to check any mob u charm?
shogun007
11-23-2007, 05:36 PM
Anyone know? Need your help guys curiousity is killing me here!!
Obsidiann
11-23-2007, 06:08 PM
Im guessing you're below 65?Coercers get possession (a fun spell) at 65.
shogun007
11-23-2007, 06:23 PM
Very interesting , spell like this every coercer should get at level 1 -)) . Summoners dont need their possession as much as coercers do and they have it at 20 sigh. Thank you for your reply Obsidiann.
shogun007
11-24-2007, 11:38 AM
Another thing i noticed that named mobs have much higher chance to break then regular is it true?
Obsidiann
11-24-2007, 04:04 PM
<cite>shogun007 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Another thing i noticed that named mobs have much higher chance to break then regular is it true?</blockquote>SOE has eliminated the ability to charm most named mobs.The only reason they would have a higher chance to break is if their mental resists were higher, which if they are a named, is probably true.
shogun007
11-24-2007, 05:06 PM
Obsidiann u been very helpful so i am gonna push my luck and ask that [Removed for Content] question -)) I can solo very efficiently but my strategy doesnt apply to soloing heroics . When i get quest to kill 10 skeletons i charm one , tell him to attack another and watching health on my pet . When fight ends my pet should be in red , then i release him and finish him off getting xp for 2 kills. If named mobs cannot be charmed and u cannot find a mob 5-6 higher in same dungeon then how do u kill that named? I know coercers can solo the unsoloable at high risk and that was one of the reasons i picked the class . I like challenge when it gives me opportunity to be better then the rest . But so far mobs that i can kill safely on my conj/necro i cannot kill on my coercer. If u have any tips please share i know i am beating on a dead horse but still..
shogun007
11-24-2007, 05:07 PM
Obsidiann u been very helpful so i am gonna push my luck and ask that [Removed for Content] question -)) I can solo very efficiently but my strategy doesnt apply to soloing heroics . When i get quest to kill 10 skeletons i charm one , tell him to attack another and watching health on my pet . When fight ends my pet should be in red , then i release him and finish him off getting xp for 2 kills. If named mobs cannot be charmed and u cannot find a mob 5-6 higher in same dungeon then how do u kill that named? I know coercers can solo the unsoloable at high risk and that was one of the reasons i picked the class . I like challenge when it gives me opportunity to be better then the rest . But so far mobs that i can kill safely on my conj/necro i cannot kill on my coercer. If u have any tips please share i know i am beating on a dead horse but still..
shogun007
11-24-2007, 05:07 PM
Sorry for double post
Taharn
11-25-2007, 09:24 AM
Killing named heroics, or any heroics for that matter is very simple. You can do it with, or without a pet. So here goes.First, figure out if its a melee, or caster pet. If its a melee pet, all you need to do is have the mob rooted. If its a caster mob, you need it to be unable to cast spells too. So that means stunned or stifled as well. (Mez when the stuns and stifles are down).Now, its preferable to have a caster pet to fight them, as it makes the fights go so much faster. Just have your pet /ranged and nuke the bugger down. If its a melee pet, you can send it in when the mob is stunned/dazed and pull it back before it breaks. Alternatively, you can load up your reactives and send it in, turn it into a suicide bomber style pet.So basically its just your average root/nuke strategy, with added control for caster nameds, and added dps if you have a caster pet.That being said, it can still be [Removed for Content] hard. Roots break, stuns get resisted, etc..
shogun007
11-26-2007, 01:44 PM
Ummm I am not so sure how that /ranged command works for a pet.. Also how do u maintain aggro with Sybiliant? Do u keep it constantly rooted, stunned , dazed? Do u tend to look for a higher level pets or a healer type pet in order to solo named? One last question i have coerce master 1, 5 points in charm enhancment , going down the wisdom line and searching for a + subjugation gear , is there anything else i can do to improve charm duration and resistability? I am sorry its so many questions <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />
Taharn
11-26-2007, 08:13 PM
What I described was just tactics for solo named heroics... for general soloing, a healer pet or caster pet works best. With a caster pet, just type /pet ranged and the pet stays at ranged and just uses its nuke. With a healer pet, root the mob, send your pet in and put on your reactives.
shogun007
11-27-2007, 12:57 PM
I should have named this post '' Tons of quick questions ". Thank you for answers they been a great help . One thing i noticed though is that we dont have any normal deaggros. While soloing heroic encounter i often have to use blink which sometimes teleports me right in the middle of another hostile encounter which eventually leads to my death . DO we get any deaggro spells later on or should i try maybe stamina line ( it looked like most spells could only be cast on ally)
shogun007
11-27-2007, 02:28 PM
I noticed this just now , when u use blink and u get teleported all grey mobs near u become aggroed . I dont have enough good words to say about someone who created this . This is terrible!
shogun007
11-27-2007, 04:46 PM
One more thing if i charm and atack mobs of one type , then whole room of greys would come for me P . How is this possible?
Aurumn
11-27-2007, 05:09 PM
<p>Heya, 32 coercer here. If you check your description on Blink I believe it is labeled as an AoE (area of effect spell). Basically it tries to reduce hate on all mobs within the spell radius then teleports you to a random location. Like all AoE spells, you have to watch what is in range so you don't grab additional mobs. If you're in close quarters you're probably better off mezzing the mob that's smacking you around and running for it (I believe we can cast the single target mezz while running, actually). Or sacrifice your pet to distract them. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Since the teleport is also random, that's another reason to watch your surroundings. If you're close enough to other mobs that you may get dumped into another ant hill, you probably want to rethink that.</p><p> When in a room full of mobs of any color, if you cast a spell into a group you will grab the entire encounter (check which mob(s) are highlighted when you select your target.) If your target is close to other mobs/encounters then they might react to the incoming spell as well, especially if it has any sort of AoE radius to it. Generally the best idea is to pull your target/encounter away from the crowd so you won't pull any extra mobs. Pets are great for pulling and if something goes wrong, park the pet and run for it while they're distracted. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p> Another tip for picking pets and so forth, if you happen to be an Erudite you can use Aura Vision (racial ability). This will cause different classes to have a glowing outline. I think priests show up green and mages blue... I can't remember at the moment. It basically shows a "magical" aura. Fighters without magic don't glow. It's a handy way to pick a nuker pet or even just pick your targets. </p>
shogun007
11-27-2007, 05:28 PM
The fun part is I DIDNT use blink. Other encounters were grey. And to make sure pet wont do AOE i picked a healer pet .I am Dark elf i get deaggro spell on 5 min recast which teleports me even futher then Blink -)
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