View Full Version : Brigand 2-box partner Fury or Warden?
Goregrim
11-22-2007, 04:22 PM
<p>I have a level 24 Brigand at the moment and want to start leveling up a 2-box partner.</p><p>I have read that a warden individual buffs are better and they can assist with proc'd heals?</p><p>However, it seems to me that it would be harder to melee assist while 2-boxing?</p><p>If I am wrong and it is actually as easy would an inquisitor be an even better choice? </p><p>My thought is that it would be easier with a fury to sit back and cast heals and DPS.</p><p>Not to mention maybe the extra DPS that the fury has above the Warden makes up for the buffs of the warden?</p><p>Any ideas or suggestions would be much appreciated.</p><p>Thanks</p>
Krokous
11-22-2007, 08:46 PM
as far as i know, templar is great
Maledan
11-25-2007, 02:57 PM
Personally I feel that as a boxed character the Warden is a very good choice for a root/nuke-based combat style, but less so for melee combat. Wardens (and also Furies) need a lot of attention from the player in order to fulfill their potential (due to the way their healing works). The scouts have positional attacks which also require some micro-management, so Brigand/Warden or Brigant/Fury will probably be very stressful to play. For a more relaxed playstyle, Mystics and Defilers are very good boxed healers for a melee character, though they lack in DPS. If you're set on playing a druid as the second character, I'd recommend a Fury due to its better DPS (the Warden's buffs aren't really that good).
Skivley101
11-25-2007, 06:49 PM
<p>The mele warden with the proc heal is perfect as a 2 box for almost any mele char ,though im not sure about the brig compared to a few others.</p><p>At the very least though the warden needs 21 pts in the druid str line to recieve the free no hassel healing maxed ( 4th-8pts).</p><p>Then beyond that with the CA's (another 21 pts to get 75% mele crits) You can unload all the wardens button dmg in about 2-3 sec . Just place 4-5 heals on primary bar, and the 5 dmg buttons a warden would have with that spec. And you might consider the int line after that , to get infusion (does dmg with every beneficial spell) Unless you feel the healing needs a boost , But with atleast adept 3 healing spells the wardens healing potential is more than adequate for duo.</p><p>All priests give the same group mit buff , The warden gives a nice wisdom/agi group buff ,and buffs the best against elemental.</p><p>With the nature of the Hot healing (if you pre cast dmg youll be on the preventative side of dmg rather than reacting to when the healing is needed) They also have some emergency heals/death prevent you could put on the hot bar for when the shiot hits the fan.</p><p>Whether or not you would want the warden mele buff on the brig or warden is up for debate , The warden needs slightly above max cap to be effective on the mele heals(depending on the con of the mob) , does the brig group buff mele a little?</p><p>Not saying that the Cleric/Shaman isnt a better choice(havent played one) Just saying from what i know about the warden and 2 boxing , They seem pretty well suited for minimal button pushing with the mele spec.</p><p>The fury does have the same option for mele healing , they just dont have the mele buff that makes it almost guarenteed for hit% , and the ability to unload dmg as fast with CA's. </p><p>Does the brig require int for dmg boost (poison)like the assassin? ... if so then the fury would be better dmg boost to the brig with no button pushing , But the mele warden would be better healing,quick dmg from the warden.</p><p>The one thing you didnt mention though ....are you dual boxing or dual comping ?</p>
dpsman
11-25-2007, 11:12 PM
<cite>Krokous wrote:</cite><blockquote>as far as i know, templar is great</blockquote><p>incorrect answer grade F</p><p>The choices were Fury or Warden</p>
TheBu
11-26-2007, 04:16 PM
<cite>Grainer@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Krokous wrote:</cite><blockquote>as far as i know, templar is great</blockquote><p>incorrect answer grade F</p><p>The choices were Fury or Warden</p></blockquote><p>I think they are trying to think out side the box.</p><p>purhaps Goregrim does not know some of the druids heal spells are like 1s,1.5 and 2s cast times and that duel boxing like that can be a bit ruff and not as easy as a 3s or 5s heal/ward. also we druid wer leather and not chain or plate so the agro switchn to allow for stealth and back stabs may be ruff. so an inq or defiler might work well for them.</p><p>I am not sure how much the druid(warden and fury) str line will heal on melee but it might work well.But dont pick a fury cuz of more dps.. a warden can do very well and fury will need to cast alot to dps.. </p>
<p>i love the melee warden for easy fast dps </p><p>the healing tree is good for harder mobs</p><p>so easy heals and dps for 2nd comp box with macros</p>
Arielle Nightshade
12-29-2007, 05:23 PM
<p>Brigand is a pretty tough class - tough as in 'self sufficient'. I wouldn't worry about dragging a healer around so much for heals. I'd say level any healer next to it - but Fury would passively buff that class to be able to do nice things. But then you'd miss the fun of having a Warden ! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Marbus
01-14-2008, 03:51 PM
<p>I have a Fury / Dirge comb that just rocks. It was originally to be for 2 boxing but my 5 year old has started wanting to play more and more. He plays the Dirge and I play the Fury... if you are going scout, I would consider Fury because of the added INT and it's easy to do nuke damage and heal on a second box than to melee. Why? because often if you are pulling the second charater will be out of melee range. </p><p>Since my son had a level 21 paladin he has been playing on and off since age 3 (I'm not kidding, smart kid, he can already read on a 1st or 2nd grade level) he wanted to play him some too rather than just my hot inky chick dirge.</p><p>So to my guilds grief I created a Warden as well because I liked the regen type healing if I was going to 2 box from time to time. I created the warden and got her up to close to the pallys level. At the time I was still low on AA but had enough to get most of my CAs including the AoE you don't get spellwise until the 30s.</p><p>Truly I have been amazed that 2 charcters, who are both druids, could be played so differently. With the Pally buffs (+wis and mit) if I'm using a shield I'm at 52% absorb and 42% avoid at 36. I have the 75% crit it's and often (and this isn't because he is 5) out DPS the Paladin. Together though we can easily take white or low yellow ^^^, including named.</p><p>While I have 2 boxed them a couple of times (to finish up part of the GB quest after he had to go to sleep one night), it's not as easy as the dirge / fury. I dearly love the fury but truthfully the warden / pally combo is now only one level below the other one so that should tell you were some of the fun is.</p><p>I would consider a Fury if going scout, but created a warden as well, if nothing else just to solo... they are truly a blast... and mines only 36.</p>
Arielle Nightshade
01-14-2008, 06:01 PM
<p>There is something that I really like about a 3 year old tanking. How many of us can honestly say we haven't had tanks that behaved as if they were 3? At least your boy has a reason LOL.... </p><p>I'd love to see him on a PvP server with his little Marr diety pet named: "pwndbya3yo".</p>
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