ROK 1 shot pets: Just the facts

[Izzypop]

No Drama No Crying Blowing a snot bubble because you ate a 9k one shot won't help anything.Just list the facts about broken charmed RoK pets.Please list<b><span style="color: #0033ff;">The name of the charmed mob that hit you.</span><span style="color: #00ccff;">The zone you were in.</span><span style="color: #ff0000;">How much it hit you for.<span style="color: #ffff00;">The name of the combat art or spell that hit you.</span></span><span style="color: #33cc00;">Your class, level, and mitigation.</span>Screen shots are a plus.</b>

[Amphibia]

Nm.

[Izzypop]

Most reports so far are Sathirians in Kunzar using disabling strike.An exact report will be more usefull<span class="postbody">Please list<b><span style="color: #0033ff;">The name of the charmed mob that hit you.</span><span style="color: #00ccff;">The zone you were in.</span><span style="color: #ff0000;">How much it hit you for.<span style="color: #ffff00;">The name of the combat art or spell that hit you.</span></span><span style="color: #33cc00;">Your class, level, and mitigation.</span></b></span>

[Raidyen]

<p>Well i have a screen shot from a guildmate but cant seem to get it to upload to the forum correctly.</p><p>Anyway here is the info that i could gather.</p><p>Niro was the name of the Charmer.</p><p>A Sathirian Milite</p><p>Disabling Strike</p><p>8326 piercing damage</p><p>Kunzar Jungle</p><p>Ranger, level 72, No idea what his Mit is, but does that really matter?  it was an 8k hit. </p>

[Izzypop]

On outer Selbesian sentryKunzarDisabling Strike7735 DamageDisabling strikeLevel 77 Guardian Short terms were up at the time mitigation was 5870 ss is without short terms up.<img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f255/LokiLaughs2much/kunzar.jpg" alt="" border="0" />

[WasFycksir]

<p>While we are at it please name-</p><p>The rangers that totally destroyed any mage for the last years in pvp.  Yeh the ones that killed the mages before the first spell by the mage was even cast.</p><p>Not saying some charmed pets are uber, but you really need to get a grip on your toon if you can't beat a coercer.</p>

[Captain Apple Darkberry]

<cite>WasFycksir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>While we are at it please name-</p><p>The rangers that totally destroyed any mage for the last years in pvp.  Yeh the ones that killed the mages before the first spell by the mage was even cast.</p><p>Not saying some charmed pets are uber, but you really need to get a grip on your toon if you can't beat a coercer.</p></blockquote>Kinda sounds like your assuming the Coercer is solo, instead of part of a duo, trio, or group keeping him protected while he hands out those 7 - 9k nukes.While it is kinda overpowered, its also funny.  =P  So enjoy the fun while it lasts.

[jam3]

<cite>WasFycksir wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>While we are at it please name-</p><p>The rangers that totally destroyed any mage for the last years in pvp.  Yeh the ones that killed the mages before the first spell by the mage was even cast.</p><p>Not saying some charmed pets are uber, but you really need to get a grip on your toon if you can't beat a coercer.</p></blockquote>because theres so much u can do against a pet that can kill you in 1 hit

[Bogenbroom123]

<p>Kunzar jungle some iksar charmed mob hit for 4k & 4k was dead before I could get one of my casts off (stunned, as well).  Pretty cool...</p><p>Field of bone one of the burynai mobs nuking for 2500+/2500+.  </p><p> This doesn't bother me a whole lot, but it does seem a bit odd.  I have had low lvl 60's in bonemire attempt this with corpse candles, as well.  But I have gotten lucky with them for the most part.  The pet nukes me for 4500dmg and I have just enough time to hit evac.</p><p>Can't remember the spell names, etc., because I have seen this so much that it's just another one of the things you learn to say, "oh well...another f---d up SOE pvp [Removed for Content] dunker. let's just live with it."</p>

[icemini]

Its pathetic to see the people who oneshoted coercers for months are now complaining to get their favour returned. Even with full fabled set from eof a coercer would survive a snipershot in less then 5% of the situations and would die to a swashbuckler before his initial cheapshot wore off. And now a coercer usualy dies with 1 bow attack and noone seem to find that strange, but about oneshoting pets (which are restricted to one zone and going probably to be make no charm in next few days) everybody is crying like a baby. Yeah soe pretty much screwed it up with pvp damage, but look into the mirror you newbs before you complain about others oneshoting you.Gargammel 80 coercer europaWill oneshot and steal your fame, so better start crying

[Roald]

<cite>icemini wrote:</cite><blockquote>Its pathetic to see the people who oneshoted coercers for months are now complaining to get their favour returned. Even with full fabled set from eof a coercer would survive a snipershot in less then 5% of the situations and would die to a swashbuckler before his initial cheapshot wore off. And now a coercer usualy dies with 1 bow attack and noone seem to find that strange, but about oneshoting pets (which are restricted to one zone and going probably to be make no charm in next few days) everybody is crying like a baby. Yeah soe pretty much screwed it up with pvp damage, but look into the mirror you newbs before you complain about others oneshoting you.Gargammel 80 coercer europaWill oneshot and steal your fame, so better start crying</blockquote>While I agree with most of it (Did ranger's stop using good bows and focus aim just because they were overpowered?) I don't get the bit about the swashie killing you. Coercer's can cast their mezz while stunned.

[icemini]

In difference to our illusionist brothers our mezz is very resistable and long casting time, even with over +100 subjurgation  mezz gets reissted 50% of the time.  And any halfway decent swashbuckler will have my mezz interupted... but if i get the mezz trogh... well then they are dead meat.. but i hardly ever get that 1.5 seconds casting time trough...

[Sigunn]

<cite>icemini wrote:</cite><blockquote>Its pathetic to see the people who oneshoted coercers for months are now complaining to get their favour returned. Even with full fabled set from eof a coercer would survive a snipershot in less then 5% of the situations and would die to a swashbuckler before his initial cheapshot wore off. And now a coercer usualy dies with 1 bow attack and noone seem to find that strange, but about oneshoting pets (which are restricted to one zone and going probably to be make no charm in next few days) everybody is crying like a baby. Yeah soe pretty much screwed it up with pvp damage, but look into the mirror you newbs before you complain about others oneshoting you.Gargammel 80 coercer europaWill oneshot and steal your fame, so better start crying</blockquote><p>Hear, hear!</p><p>Well said Gargammel. Its time for some revenge.</p>

[Ora]

<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color: #660066;"><b><3at last.</b></span>

[Radigazt]

<p>Props to the OP for setting out very reasonable and reliable guidelines.  Unfortunately for him, this thread seems to have backfired, as it only shows how overpowered Rogues and Predators are with the Coercer community seemingly having at least as much of a beef as the aforementioned scouts.  </p><p>Personally, I'm not a big fan of 5 second PvP.  I'd prefer all PvP's be somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 seconds to 3 minutes.  Short burst PvP tends to be less enjoyable to the victor and no fun whatsoever for the victim.  At least if the fights take a minute, the victim feels like he had a chance ... and the victor feels like he actually achieved something.  If I were in charge of PvP, I'd target longer lasting fights; but that's just me.  </p>

[Izzypop]

There are many other threads dedicated to ranger nerfs and play balance regarding clothies and 1 shots. Not everybody plays a scout. Casters are being 1 shoted by charmed pets. Priests are being 1 shoted by charmed pets. Tanks are being 1 shoted by charmed pets. This isn't a case of "payback" where coercers can now return the 1 shot favor back to rangers.Tanks, Healers, and mages were never able to 1 shot or dominate coercers the way swashies/rangers could so this isn't  payback against them. This is a case of Coercers 1 shoting anybody they come across. This is a case of Coercers destroying groups. Tanks can't take this kind of DPS Charmed pet damage spikes ruin 6 on 6 group pvp. Attempts to derail this thread are primarily being done by Coercers who are enjoying a broken form of easymode PvP and are attempting to get as many tokens as possible until this problem is fixed.Please list<b><span style="color: #0033ff;">The name of the charmed mob that hit you.</span><span style="color: #00ccff;">The zone you were in.</span><span style="color: #ff0000;">How much it hit you for.<span style="color: #ffff00;">The name of the combat art or spell that hit you.</span></span><span style="color: #33cc00;">Your class, level, and mitigation.</span>Screen shots are a plus.</b>

[Taharn]

Im sorry mate, but you DO realise this is occurring in 1 out of the 4 Kunark zones right?I wouldnt even say its the busiest.. its certainly the most out of the way, since you have to pass through 2 zones to get to it. Its not the best for pvp either, since aggro mobs abound and its very closed in. Not saying I agree with people using 1-shot pets, Im a coercer, and just out of principle I avoid those pets when im in that zone, but come on... don't you think you're making a bluff out of a burynai burrow?I cant believe Ive seen more outcry about this than about people who can seeminly walk around with permanent immunity. Oh, and just to fill out your silly form, to announce to any charmer who DOESNT yet know about this.Name of the mob that hit you: Sathirian X, where X is any mobThe zone you were in: THEY ARE ONLY FOUND IN KUNZAR JUNGLEHow much it hit you for: If you're level appropriate to the zone, it'll hit for 8-10kThe name of the combat art or spell that hit you: Disabling StrikeYour class, level, and mitigation : Coercer, 78, 22%, 40% avoidance (except avoidance is pointless in pvp.. wait, i forgot, we arent supposed to be talking about real problems, just the made up one)PS: People have already said that the upper echelons have been notified, so posting silly forms isn't going to do much.

[Ora]

<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color: #660099;"><b>It is a mob in Kunzar jungle, but not particularly because of this mob I feel that coercers have gained a needed boost in the new zones...I've noticed I stand a lot longer than formerly...And my pets stand a chance now,However,I can see a nerf coming <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />/sighAlas, all good things must come to an end.Good luck on your quest, Izzy <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></b></span>

[Balrok]

<p>it's just a charmed mob not working as intended.. chill, they will address it.</p><p>imho.. don't blame someone for using it... just go somewhere else.  dieing really is not that big of a deal.</p><p>so in summary.... Don't hate the player, hate the game.  </p><p>btw.. think I used it for about 2 hours and then moved onto something else.  Was nice to kill a few scouts popping there Bristbane 1 min immunity blessing.  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Rattfa]

I have done almost 50 quests in Kunzar Jungle, and havent been hit with a 1shot pet ever (probably shouldnt have said that...)I did get 2 shotted by a ranger though. NERF rangers!(i kid)

[Evenstar]

<p>Just an addition to the thread...can Cure Arcane please not remove the charm on the pet  (after making the pets do less damage)? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>As a note, Dispel Magic on the coercer SHOULD remove the pet from the coercer and Cure Arcane on the pet (from a priest) SHOULD remove the pet from the coercer. Pets also tend to be a bit stupid so they take about 3 seconds to start running.</p>