Eagle Shriek question.

[littleman17]

<p>The question is a rather simple one, is Eagle Shriek worth expending the aa points to get? It seems like it kicks in entirely too late and does not last long enough to actually be effective. If a healer lets me get down to 30% health, chances are, I'm gonna die unless I get some ungodly high amount mit (about 3-4x the amount es currently gives).</p><p>So, I was wondering what you guys think of this idea, and my idea for it.</p><p>Activates at 40% and stays active for 30 seconds regardless if your hp goes over 40%.</p>

[XustinuS]

Well dont underestimate eagle shriek as we have a huge heal whch will even get u up to %58 frm %1 you r getting to %30 period twice on combat.... as brawlers are good for soloing heroics (not good as some scouts <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> )... it s actually not bad for soloing ... also carry heal overtime potions and put in to your castbar.... well this will give u the time for a lot crit.... or eagle shriek is also usefull if you generally grping up with druids like me as my bruiser in venekor generally if any healer in grp %80 of the time it s druid just tell them only heal u whn u fall below %25 and with only using hots.... well ths also gives them a lot time to nuke.... but all this is tricky if you r fighting with a badass mob..... btw just thnk about the idea activates at %40 and active for 30 secs everytime it activates... this time if u have a healer in grp you ll always stay at high mitigation and with %75 more crit chance . All you have to do is hit your hp below %40 every 30 secs.... do u thnk that ths makes any sense????....

[EDofEDs]

<cite>Amuderya@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well dont underestimate eagle shriek as we have a huge heal whch will even get u up to %58 frm %1 you r getting to %30 period twice on combat.... as brawlers are good for soloing heroics (not good as some scouts <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> )... it s actually not bad for soloing ... also carry heal overtime potions and put in to your castbar.... well this will give u the time for a lot crit.... or eagle shriek is also usefull if you generally grping up with druids like me as my bruiser in venekor generally if any healer in grp %80 of the time it s druid just tell them only heal u whn u fall below %25 and with only using hots.... well ths also gives them a lot time to nuke.... but all this is tricky if you r fighting with a badass mob..... btw just thnk about the idea activates at %40 and active for 30 secs everytime it activates... this time if u have a healer in grp you ll always stay at high mitigation and with %75 more crit chance . All you have to do is hit your hp below %40 every 30 secs.... do u thnk that ths makes any sense????....</blockquote>You type like my 3 year old talks... non-stop without breathing <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />And to the OP, I think it's fine as it is.  If you don't find it good for your style of play then don't pick it up.

[Junaru]

Pre-RoK I loved this skill for soloing. I would get to 30% then pop Tsunami and I could take a heroic mob from 75% health to dead before Tsunami would wear of and if they were still alive I just heal myself.But with RoK mobs. Well for soloing it's still useful but I would rather spec something else. Heroic mobs just hit to hard for this to be useful at 30%. It needs to start at 50% and have xxx stats, 40% have xxx, 30% have xxx, etc etc.This would make it a more viable option. But with Heroic mobs in RoK I can go from 50% to 20% in a hit ot two and from 20% to zero just as quick.

[Pnaxx]

So, Eagle Shiek is not passive then? If it's not, how long of a timer is it on b4 you can reuse? And what happens when you pop it, does it give you HP's, a heal or what? Not really sure. I ask this because I am almost rdy to sink some AA's into another AA line. I maxed STR, and have saved up almost enough for the INT line.

[littleman17]

<p>From my understanding, it has no reuse, as it "procs" once your hp reaches 30%. If your hp goes above 30% it de-procs. Whilst active, it gives you a decent amount of (not enough to come in line with warriors) mit and around about 75% melee crit... it may give something else, but I don't remember.</p><p>So yeah, maybe they could tone down the crit percent, or maybe have it scale depending on what hp level you're at. In my opinion, this skill needs to "proc" at 50% and stay active for say... 20 seconds, and can not proc again for another 30... that way, it prevents it from being overly abused.</p>

[Pnaxx]

<p>Ok, so based on what you just ssaid, it's passive. And, once we hit 30% Health, it activates. So, </p><p>1. How long does it stay active for?</p><p>2. How is it abused?</p>

[littleman17]

<p>Again, from my understanding, how long it is active is what makes it useless imo... it is only active so long as you are UNDER 30% health... you go over, and it deactivates.</p><p>As for how it is abused, I meant my suggestion. For it activating at 50% and staying active for x amount of seconds regardless of whether you go over 50% health. The whole "it not being able to activate again for x after it has worn off" thing would keep us from being able to constantly have it up.</p>

[Pnaxx]

<cite>littleman17 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Again, from my understanding, how long it is active is what makes it useless imo... it is only active so long as you are UNDER 30% health... you go over, and it deactivates.</p><p>As for how it is abused, I meant my suggestion. For it activating at 50% and staying active for x amount of seconds regardless of whether you go over 50% health. The whole "it not being able to activate again for x after it has worn off" thing would keep us from being able to constantly have it up.</p></blockquote><p>Ok, so...</p><p>If you go inder 30% health, this activates. Does it stop you from going lower? How does it do that?</p><p>If, after you are over 30% and it deactivates, will it start back again immediatly if the need arises?</p>

[Pnaxx]

<p>Ok, I see from these posts that it activates and can get you up over 50% possibly. But I do see the bennies with soloing, if it heals you enough? It sounds like it is another heal at our disposal. Question, how much does it heal for once it activates? Is it a % of our HP's or a set amount of HP's back to us? Does it happen all at once, or does it give you % every 6 seconds...type of thing?</p><p>I see Jun's point about being too low for it to help you as the mob can take you from 30% to Dead in one hit. But this is a good discussion as I am almost rdy to put my 4/4/8 into the skill...I have 4/4/2 right now so I don't know if it's worht puttin in til I get the 8 for Shriek.</p>

[littleman17]

<p>Eagle Shriek does not heal the user from my knowledge. What is does is, so long as the user is under 30% health, it gives them a nice mit boost and 75% melee crit chance. My main gripe is that if we as bruisers go under 30% health, even with a massive mit boost (any tank for that matter) we will be dead rather quickly.</p><p>That is why I suggest that the % it procs at needs to be drastically raised and needs to be able to stay active regardless if the bruiser's health goes above said %.</p>

[tt66]

<cite>littleman17 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What is does is, so long as the user is under 30% health, it gives them a nice mit boost and 75% melee crit chance. </p></blockquote>Yep. That's all it does. It might not help you much when tanking (although the mit buff at exactly the moment you need it certainly doesn't hurt), but it's golden if you spend a lot of time soloing. It's rather nifty when it comes to duels as well!If you spend your life tanking or doing dps in groups/raids then it probably isn't the endline ability for you. Crane Flock or Altruism will suit you much better. Otherwise, it's well worth considering.Personally, I highly recommend it as part of a levelling build.. but not so much once you get into the endgame.

[Vankrooger]

<p>Don't mean to move off-topic but does anyone know an easier way to un-FD other than right clicking your buff window?</p><p><span style="font-size: small;font-family: Times New Roman;">It's really annoying have to to search for it to un-FD, especially when it fails and you have mobs beating on you with 20 buffs to sift through in order to find the FD buff.</span></p>

[Writer Cal]

Stand up.  Default for that is hitting the X key.

[Vankrooger]

<cite>Ives@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Stand up.  Default for that is hitting the X key.</blockquote><p>I love you. <3</p>

[Pnaxx]

<cite>Vankrooger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ives@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Stand up.  Default for that is hitting the X key.</blockquote><p>I love you. <3</p></blockquote>Hehe, I know what you mean. Til learned that it was annoying as all get out.