Sarnak or Di'Zok?

[DonalDubh]

The language of the NPC Sarnak is Di'zokian, and several in-game references seem to refer to Di'Zok as the proper racial name of the Sarnak... so which is it?Are the PC Sarnaks a totally different race? They speak Gorwish instead of Di'zokian...I have been trying to decide, for EQ2 Allakhazam, do we call them Di'Zok or Sarnak?And, beyond that, [Removed for Content] is up with single quote vs back-tick? I have seen Di`Zok, Di`zok, Di'Zok and Di'zok. For that matter, half the Tim Deep NPCs use ` in their names, the rest use 'grrrr!!!!

[Dreyco]

According to my understanding, they do speak the same language, though the Di`zok brood is hardly similar as you can probably tell by the drastic change in appearance, and the fact that even Sarnak are Kill on sight to them.

[Gukkor2]

<p>Di'zok is the name of Chardok's royal family, and has been since EQ1.  I believe the older subrace of Sarnak is referred to as "Di'zok Sarnak" simply as a convention, given that they are the Sarnak who submit to the Di'zok's rule.  Gorowyn Sarnak, by contrast, are not loyal to the Di'zok and live in the city of Gorowyn.  Thus, they are referred to as "Gorowyn Sarnak" for similar reasons.</p><p>As explained at several points in RoK, Gorowyn Sarnak and Di'zok Sarnak are two different subraces of the same species.  The Di'zok Sarnak were created by the Iksar by artificially mixing the blood (which I would assume to refer more to genetic material than to literal blood) of Iksar and dragons, while the Gorowyn Sarnak were created through experimentation and modifications performed on the Di'zok Sarnak bodily structure.  On this last point, however, my knowledge is still vague.</p>

[Cusashorn]

The Di'Zok, as violent of a faction of sarnaks as they are, are probably calling themselves that to reassure everyone thier lineage, as well as distance themselves from the new breed.

[DreamerClou]

Is there any lore explaining how these new Goro Sarnaks came to being?  Did someone make them or did they just evolve through time...

[Cusashorn]

They're genetically engineered. Only been around for about 100 years. We haven't even begun to learn about them though.

[Corydonn]

<cite>DreamerCloud9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is there any lore explaining how these new Goro Sarnaks came to being?  Did someone make them or did they just evolve through time...</blockquote>Look for the collection book titled "The Unclaimed Eye." This book tells a mass about the Gorowyn Sarnak. The Gorowyn Sarnak were created by the Di'zok after they found the original mold for the Iksar after Thule dropped the mold in Kunark and had to make the Iksar race we know now without this mold.

[Ama]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>They're genetically engineered. Only been around for about 100 years. We haven't even begun to learn about them though.</blockquote>If you want to see some freakyness head to Gorowyn and take a look in the research area.  They have their sarnak brethern in weird chambers studying them as much as possible.  There are even gnomes and an Erudite there helping with the research. 

[DreamerClou]

<cite>Corydonn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DreamerCloud9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is there any lore explaining how these new Goro Sarnaks came to being?  Did someone make them or did they just evolve through time...</blockquote>Look for the collection book titled "The Unclaimed Eye." This book tells a mass about the Gorowyn Sarnak. The Gorowyn Sarnak were created by the Di'zok after they found the original mold for the Iksar after Thule dropped the mold in Kunark and had to make the Iksar race we know now without this mold.</blockquote>lol is that true?  Molds? all this talk of molds sounds like someone baking iksar and sarnak shaped cookies.  So you are saying these new PC sarnaks are what Cazic Thule intended the orginal Iksar to look like?  How does a god just "misplace" a "mold" for a race he intends to create... just lol

[Cusashorn]

<cite>DreamerCloud9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Corydonn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DreamerCloud9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is there any lore explaining how these new Goro Sarnaks came to being?  Did someone make them or did they just evolve through time...</blockquote>Look for the collection book titled "The Unclaimed Eye." This book tells a mass about the Gorowyn Sarnak. The Gorowyn Sarnak were created by the Di'zok after they found the original mold for the Iksar after Thule dropped the mold in Kunark and had to make the Iksar race we know now without this mold.</blockquote>lol is that true?  Molds? all this talk of molds sounds like someone baking iksar and sarnak shaped cookies.  So you are saying these new PC sarnaks are what Cazic Thule intended the orginal Iksar to look like?  How does a god just "misplace" a "mold" for a race he intends to create... just lol</blockquote>Yeah. Brell Serilis is a big fan of using "molds" of his races. He sculpts each race he creates out of the mystical Clay of Cosgrove before breathing life into them. He then takes the molds and locks them away in his vault for safe keeping.

[troodon]

I haven't read the book in question but if the Gorowyn Sarnak were made using some mold then... aren't they not Sarnak at all?  They're just whatever that mold is?  Unless they, like, mixed Sarnak with that mold race.. I guess

[ke'la]

Well the opening Cinimatic for Gorawin refurse to the Di'Zok Brood as a "lesser" race then the Sarnak of Gorawin. It also talks about them being a young race obsested with how they came into being.

[Thrizz]

If this mold thing is true, they'll need to have some sort of live event to make the Sarnak of Gorowyn realize this. They don't know their history at the moment and thus would likely not know.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>They're genetically engineered. Only been around for about 100 years. We haven't even begun to learn about them though.</blockquote>If you want to see some freakyness head to Gorowyn and take a look in the research area.  They have their sarnak brethern in weird chambers studying them as much as possible.  There are even gnomes and an Erudite there helping with the research.  </blockquote>I believe those are actually incubation chambers.  A few Sarnak I've talked to in-game have mentioned that they must put their young into incubation chambers for a period of time, or else the young will soon die. These chambers not only sustain much of their physical growth, but feed them knowledge critical to life as a Gorowyn Sarnak.

[TheSpin]

<p>The 'molds' are indeed incubation chambers.  Someone at chrykori village talks about them (not a quest npc).</p><p>I was under the impression that the Di'Zok sarnak created the Sarnak of Gorowyn basically the same way the iksars created the Di'zok.  I could be wrong on this though.</p>

[Corydonn]

The molds aren't the incubation chamber. I have posted the story on another site so you can see what I mean.<a href="http://archiveofik.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=90741&ForumID=427001&TabID=779366&TopicID=6001323" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://archiveofik.guildportal.com/...TopicID=6001323</a>

[Nocturnal Aby]

I'm not sure the incubation chambers are the same things as the molds, I could be wrong though.  It seems to me like the Sarnak made the new Sarnak using the mold, but made some alterations. (Afterall, why would they make more iksar, when they are clearly superior to iksar).