Dragons in Kunark

[Maergoth]

Separate topic, separate post.Anyone who's been around has noticed a few things that perk some interest thus far in Kunark.For starters, The skeleton of what's his Dar in the field of bone has an actual congealment  of  his spirit over top of it. Don't know what that means, but moving on.There are 2 large noticeably dead dragons.. one in Kylong Plains, one in Jarsath Wastes.. They may or may not be of significance, just throwing that out there.There are several Droag "Assault groups" attacking the Iksar AND Sarnak if I recall seeing correctly.. Do the dragons feel threatened by the rising powers as theirs isn't going up very far very fast?Now for the big story..Temple of the White Lady.Temple of the Red Lord.Two temples obviously made for Talendor and Gorenaire, and it's been touched up on recently in the forums.. just relaying it here.. we don't know what they are for.What do Kerafyrm's Followers want with Kunark? Any ideas?

[Cusashorn]

Where was it revealed that the Cult of the Awakened (not to be confused with the Cult of the Arisen, who you see all over Kylong) has gotten involved with Kunark?

[Maergoth]

Nothing specifically stated, though I thought it was the Awakened that pretty much made the droag.. and with those two temples recently made, they are definitely linked somehow.. seeing as both Gorenaire and Talendor are part of the cult of the awakened.

[dragontamer619]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Where was it revealed that the Cult of the Awakened (not to be confused with the Cult of the Arisen, who you see all over Kylong) has gotten involved with Kunark?</blockquote><p>I remember seeing something about that during one of the E3 videos about the Rise of Kunark.  They had their Sarnak running through a zone, and he said something along the lines of the Droags are in Rise of Kunark.  I do not know if that bears any significance though.  I'll go see if I can dig up the video.</p><p> <i>Edit</i>:  I found this:  The "Kingdom of Sky" tie-in - the droags have teamed up with their dragon brothers again.  From this link:  <a href="http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/9013" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/9013</a></p>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>Both Talendor and Gorenaire were natives to Kunark in the Age of Turmoil (EQ).  Gorenaire could be found roaming the Dreadlands (now, the central part of the Kylong Plains, it seems), and Talendor could be found in the Skyfire Mountains.  Both were killed many times, as they were both part of several class Epic Quests.  Might it be possible that the temples were built before they joined the Cult of the Awakened?</p><p>Also, just because droags are involved, doesn't mean the Cult of the Awakened is.  Droags were around before the Cult, serving in the plane of Sky, worshipping Veeshan.  It seems that Veeshan hasn't been seen for a while, though, and so many of them were swayed to Kerafyrm.  It's possible that the ones in Kunark are serving the Ring of Scale, as droags see all dragons as their superiors.  The Firstborn, so to speak.</p>

[Gannor]

  Actually, it's very plainly stated thet the Cult of the Awakened has firm root in Kunark. Not only among Dragon Kind, who have now built temples in Skyfire  to Talendor and Gorenair both on high in the Ascent of the Awakened, but Venril Sathir has also shown ties to the Awakened. Early on in the Dreadlands, you'll find Sathirian guards direct members of the cult, and I've heard snippits here and there that Venril himself has had ties.  As for the two dead Dragons, the corpse in The Overthere outside the Battlements of Ganak appears to be a fairly generic body type, the head has the same inconclusive crest form as the Young Dragon from Bonemire (Black Dragon [Yes, he's purple, but he's a Black Dragon type]) and as Lord Xyfl in Lavastorm (Fire Dragon). The other body is more curious, it has a distinct Fire Dragon head form similar to Nagafen's. This is a rather distinct form and to be honest, my first inclination was to hope it could be Zordakalicus Ragefire, but I'd heard rumors old Zordak may still be alive. It may simply be more terrain fodder with a little extra attention to detail.

[Cusashorn]

But the Droag L&L states they were created countless aeons ago when teh dragons first came to Norrath. It's not just the Cult of the Awakened who has control over them. They were created to serve dragonkind in general. That's one that one droag serves Nagafen instead.

[Methrill.Rundran]

Does the droag L&L sinister strike work on the dracurions close to Veeshan's peak? I went there solo at level 70 and they one-shotted me, so I didn't get a chance to find out...

[Cusashorn]

They're still droags.

[Rainmare]

I haven't seen anything to think that Venril has ties to the Awakened. he has ties to the Cult of the Arisen, though. the Droags serve the Dragon powers. the first time we saw them, was in KoS, but that does not make them exclusive to the Awakened.the dragon corpse in from of the Ganak battlement is Escorpa, who was the liason for the Claws to the Ring. one of the quest givers clearly states that, because they are after the Darslayer.the Temples of teh Red Lord and the White Lady don't have to be Talendor and Gorenaire. Nagafen and Vox are also reffered to by those titles, and they were members of the Ring of Scale before they were banished for trying to produce thier own Kerafyrm. they could have easily been temples for those two to serve as imprisonment, or they could be temples for a pair of dragons in the Ring of Scale that we will only just find out about in this expansion. perhaps the Red Lord is Ragefire, for example, and the White Lady is an as of yet unknown dragon.

[Cusashorn]

No, It would never be Ragefire. If I remember right, he's sort of a black sheep to all dragonkind.

[NocteBla]

<p>I am inclined to believe they are there for Nagafen and Vox as well. Trakanon has taken leadership of Veeshan's Peak/Ring of Scale. Previously, he was outcast for attacking Sebilis (but at the same time, mortally wounded and he chose undeath as opposed to dying naturally - how he got out and took over is a topic for a different thread). Nagafen and Vox were outcast for gettin' it on.</p><p>What happens when one of these outcasts comes into a position of power? They band together and built temples for one another. Sad that Vox had to go and die...</p><p>I wonder if they'll do some kind of quest/item-triggered raid involving Nagafen and some ethereal version of Vox in their respective temples.</p>

[Ama]

<p>Actually there's something interesting going on with the droags in JW and the Legion of Danak.  Once you get deep enough into the quest one of the iksar talk about what's up.  He states that they just managed to take down a dragon named Escorba *sp*.  </p><p>Infact if you pressure the iksar he tells you that they have in their possession "the darslayer" weapon.  The biggest thing they fear is the darslayer getting into the hands of the draconic legions.  </p>

[Maergoth]

No dragons other than Talendor and Gorenaire were ever referred to as Red Lord and White lady respectively. Not a single one, and you can't just assume those titles are dynamic and shifted to whichever dragons are a worry to the ring of scale at the time being.The question is.. why are they there. I haven't seen anything related to them, and I'm 80 and breaking into T2 raid content.. done all the quests I've found as well. Any ideas?

[Gannor]

  Just a couple possibilities for you, Maergoth: Do you recall the the cave in the farthest edge of Stonebrunt Mountains? The Portal Orb that was inside of Kurn's Tower, but unreachable because it was behind the entrance? The empty crypt near the Spider Cave in the Field of Bone? The tunnels under the Fortress Talishan? Norrath, and Kunark in good deal, has places and things that lack a known purpose. What are these Marionette Strings I keep carrying around used for? What do I do with the A Pretty Coin I recieved from the Bellywhumpers? Not everything in Norrath has a grand, secret purpose. And that is good. It adds a touch of realistic mystique. Some mysteries are forgotten. Some are obscure. And some are secretly not as interesting as they seem. It's possible this was an elaborate Red Herring. On the other hand, it could just as easily be content that was planned, but later decided against. Perhaps the quests made no sense, and it was less disruptive to rip out all the work they had done? Or even more, perhaps it's content yet to be implemented or unlocked, much like Kurn's Tower? A vital stage of an Epic Quest, where you must show-down again against the Dragons of the Ascent? There's little telling at this point, and I feel our best bet now is to carry on with other investigations, while keeping one wary eye on this corner of my homeland.

[BlackPhoenix9]

<cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite><blockquote>No dragons other than Talendor and Gorenaire were ever referred to as Red Lord and White lady respectively. </blockquote><p>you sure? i got this from the athenaeum where Jindrack wrote this:</p><p> Nagafen, The Red LordWith all my dealings with dragons, the most interesting one to me remains the Red Lord, Nagafen. No other has had such dealings with mortals. Unlike most of his kind, he sees the potential (or is it use?) of members of the younger races. He has allied with powerful mages, such as Najena, and adventurers of renown to further like goals.In the grand designs of the world, Nagafen remains a wildcard, a force that plays all sides and seems to have his claw in much of the major movements of the world. He is quite definitely a concern of the Lord Mistmoore and a frequent topic of thought for Trakanon. The Overlord, Lucan D'Lere, contemplates his motives, and the Queen of Qeynos is troubled by the mention of his name.He displays a love and loyalty to Vox that is unparalleled among his kind. He will not rest until he finds a way to reunite with his mate. He protects a clutch of prismatic eggs containing his own unborn offspring. Do all of his actions stem from this single desire to unite his family, or are there other motives that drive the Red Lord? In this we can only wait for Nagafen to show his hand, for only he knows what his future holds.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Gannor wrote:</cite><blockquote>What are these Marionette Strings I keep carrying around used for? What do I do with the A Pretty Coin I recieved from the Bellywhumpers?</blockquote>YOu're supposed to sell the coin for the few silver it's worth. It used to be worth about 80 gold, but was nerfed.

[Gannor]

Bah!Oh well... Any idea about the strings?

[Cusashorn]

Don't even know what they are.

[Gannor]

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[Maergoth]

Seems like an ignorant accident to me.. though perhaps Nagafen and Gorenaire have something about the both of them.. I can say with a good bit of certainty that Gorenaire was always referred to as the white lady.. Talendor was a bit of an assumption.  Gorenaire had some pretty decent ties with Vox though if I recall.. Perhaps Vox and Nagafen WERE both the previous owners of the two titles and they were stripped and redistributed to the next strongest fire and ice dragons still a part of the ring of scale.. Which seems to make sense, I just don't see any other specific titles like that being passed down..

[MoD1133]

cusa i think your talking about melalafem?who was ragefire again?

[Cusashorn]

Melalafem? I've never heard of that name before.

[Rad]

<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=7288" target="_blank">Melalafen</a>Wandered the Western Wastes until he went away for no apparent reason.<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5218" target="_blank">Zordakalicus Ragefire</a> was a dragon that was involved with the cleric epic 1.0 quest in EQ1.  He resided in Nagafen's Lair until the quest was changed, moving him to the Skyfire Mountains.I don't know the entire story behind him since I never did or looked into the cleric epic.Edit: Looking into Melalafen a little more, he seems to have been allied with Kerafyrm.  This is interesting...I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

[Gukkor2]

It's possible that Melalafen was killed in the events surrounding Kerafyrm's awakening, or that he simply felt that his days were up and went to the <strike>elephant graveyard</strike> Dragon Necropolis to die.  Just a couple of guesses.