Is it dumb then to level up fast on a pvp server?

[Raedu]

<p>I mean reading all this stuff makes me want to ask this question.  Seems like the smart thing to do is lock?</p><p>But if I just play my char and level up and gear up as I can...without locking...am I doomed?</p>

[Kulharr]

<p>Basicly, from what i've heard. yes.  People lock their characters until they can get they twinked out pvp rewards, which I've heard is far superior to all pve equipment.  If your going for pvp rewards then yes, lock your level.  If you want to stick with pve gear, don't lock your level.  But you will be anhilated by anyone with twinked out pvp reward gear, even if they are levels beneath you.  Sad really.  I think they could balance this out by making pvp rewards easier to optain but not so overpowered.</p><p>It takes a long... LONG time to get enough faction status for pvp rewards.</p>

[Grimfort]

<p>Dont believe what you hear. What does it matter than you gain faction at lvl 70 (or 80 now actually) or at lvl 20. Many players at lvl 20 are locked and are gonna kick your [Removed for Content] anyway. On venekor for example you will probly find more pvp at the lower levels (meaning more faction/token), but will die more often until you can beat them. AAs you can hit 100 before 70 without too much hassle, I personally mostly soloed up to 70 fairly quick, I didn't waste time or coin on all the masters on the way up. Being my first char, I wanted to play the game some, so I did loads of quests more so then just grinding mobs to level quick, but it was quick enough. I think I was 70 after 20-25 days played odd, with 97 AAs. Most of my gear was from quests, a few raid items, which was fairly OK, I dont have one piece of pvp armour, but have killed twice more than I have died. </p><p>btw, the tokens to buy the pvp armour (which is better than the faction stuff) is tier based, if you want the T7 pvp gear, then you need to pvp at that tier to get that armour, lvl 20 tokens wont work, but they can be used for the lower tier pvp gear (hence the reason people tell you to lock). </p><p>IMO if you want to play the game, lvl up and fight at the T8 lvl, there is no reason to lock at all imo, you can still get everything out of it. Find a good guild/pvp group and you will be more than OK.</p>

[Tae]

<cite>Grimfort wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>btw, the tokens to buy the pvp armour (which is better than the faction stuff) is tier based, if you want the T7 pvp gear, then you need to pvp at that tier to get that armour, lvl 20 tokens wont work, but they can be used for the lower tier pvp gear (hence the reason people tell you to lock). </p></blockquote>The level 20 tokens can't be used to buy armour, only give you faction. PvP token based rewards only exist at T7 and T8. But since you're getting so much faction at those low levels (tokens AND really easy kills) you can rack up faction very fast. That said there really is no reason to lock anymore. As Grimfort stated you're going to have 100 achievement points by 70 now anyway, all the people saying you must lock to manage it are crazy.

[Grimfort]

Aye, I got confused! There is items at the lower tiers that you can buy with faction, the tokens themselves are just used to gain extra faction.

[Xzerius]

depends alot on the server you play. On Venekor it will take you a long long time to earn enough faction in the low tiers to even bother with PvP gear. You're better off cranking out into the T6 area and gearing out for that Tier to collect the PvP tokens if you want that type of gear. Otherwise..............  Raid for your fabeled.   Personnaly. I enjoy locking to do the low level quests for the mass exp you get from them. Its easier to level that way than it is to grind plus you   earn loot, coin, rewards, and AA that way. once you start getting into the T3 area, unlock and play it like you own it till you get to where you wanna be.

[Tae]

<cite>Xzerius wrote:</cite><blockquote>Its easier to level that way than it is to grind plus you   earn loot, coin, rewards, and AA that way. once you start getting into the T3 area, unlock and play it like you own it till you get to where you wanna be.</blockquote>It's even easier to do quests unlocked so you also get the XP from the mobs you're killing on the way. I'm level 74 in Kunark doing that so far, it's easy.

[Xzerius]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Xzerius wrote:</cite><blockquote>Its easier to level that way than it is to grind plus you   earn loot, coin, rewards, and AA that way. once you start getting into the T3 area, unlock and play it like you own it till you get to where you wanna be.</blockquote>It's even easier to do quests unlocked so you also get the XP from the mobs you're killing on the way. I'm level 74 in Kunark doing that so far, it's easy.</blockquote>I was speaking Pre- T3.   Its too easy to level that low and you end up passing up on alot of stuff and sent out into zones un equipped due to fast leveling. Once you get beyond that, Yes, it is much nicer to unlock and play " normal" in the higher tiers.

[Raedu]

thanks for the input...i joined Venekor (sp?) due to all the helpful posts by people that play there.

[wellehad0]

<p>i still dont get all the people who refuse to lock... yes by lvl 70 you should be caught in AA's. the thing is alot of peopel speed rush for EXP like grinding mobs.. wich in turn im starting to see lvl 20 people with 2-5 AA's wich just wont cut it if you want to pvp... if you Really want to lvl fast but pvp then only kill waht you have to kill to do the quest.. to many times do i see peopel in th ehigh 20's-low30's just being way to weak to solo the hard stuff.. </p><p>but if this is your first character and you want to just grind your way to lvl 80 all i have to say is its your money play as you like but dont expect to solo pvp... if you stay in groups then it really wont matter how many AA's or how good your gear is. just play as you like and if you feel like you are to weak then farm with your toon so that you can raise money to start a new charcter and gear him up</p>

[Ze]

<p>It might be because I play a brigan (easy mode...), but I have never locked, never bought plat, yet I have always been competitive. Granted, I am constantly soloing in pvp and I consider a kvd of 1 "competitive" - some would disagree, but I guess, if you solo, you can't expect much better. But aye, some people will walk all over you... but I think it would take a very long amount of time to get the gear and spells to be competitive at t2 and t3. By the way adept III and master CAs for brigands on nagafen cost much less in t4-7 than in t2-3. My advice is just to level... fighting twinks is no fun anyhow, and there isn't much else pvping prior to t7.</p>

[Zaci]

Rofl, its not AA that keeps you from soloing t3. What do you think us oldtimers did before AA was invented it we wanted to solo?

[valkyriepc]

<cite>Raedune wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I mean reading all this stuff makes me want to ask this question.  Seems like the smart thing to do is lock?</p><p>But if I just play my char and level up and gear up as I can...without locking...am I doomed?</p></blockquote>People lock on a pvp server, not because they wanna max their faction. Or really really want those lvl 20 fabled items. Its because in pve, AA = bonus content. While on a pvp server AA = THE CONTENT. Without large ammounts of AA, you'll get worked. The difference between a wizzy/lock with manashield vs one without is just phenomenal. So in short, you're not doomed at all. It is possible without ever locking to quest to t7 and be near or at max AA. BUT if you mean lvling fast by grinding dungeons or mobs, then yeah your character will be doomed. You will get reamed hard by someone the same lvl as you, same geared but 40 more AA than you. 

[Raedu]

<p>so why can't i level and get aa's at the same time?  I mean you can only get aa's by locking combat exp?</p><p>if i just do quests and dont lock combat exp - therfore only killing quest mobs how will i fare?  how many aa's can you get per level and is there a max?  i dont understand how you cant get aa's at any level in this game?</p>

[Kulharr]

<p>You don't get AA's from combat xp at all.  You get em from quests, and discovery.</p>

[Notsovilepriest]

<cite>Kulharin@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You don't get AA's from combat xp at all.  You get em from quests, and discovery.</p></blockquote>If you were max level and not Max aa all exp is converted into a small amount of AA till you max out