Jaled Dar's Aura.

[Cusashorn]

<p>Interesting thing about the Field of Bone. Not only have Jaled Dar's remains changed the face and name of the wastelands for countless centuries, but to this day his bones are still concealing concentrated amounts of magical energy.</p><p>Each night in the Field of Bone, an interesting sight shows up. The bones' energy emanates a ghostly aura of Jaled Dar himself. Tormented, waiting for spiritual release, even when his spirit itself lies in the Dragon Necropolis.</p><p>It can't do anything. It's bound to the physical remains of his skeleton. He bites out, rises up, and roars out until the sun comes up. His wingspan alone is longer than the entire field. If dragons can grow to this size, then why haven't we seen others this size? Darathar was the 2nd largest we've encountered, and he's got nothing on Jaled Dar.</p><p>Kerafyrm has nothing on Jaled Dar...</p>

[Lodrelhai]

My list of things to run and see when my copy of RoK finally shows up just keeps getting bigger...This just sounds incredible.  Makes you wonder whether Veeshan started off somewhere as a little 20 foot hatchling.  And if so, how old she was when she put her mark on Norrath.  And how big she is now...Are Jaled Dar's bones on par with his ghostly self?  If not, it may be reflecting the measure of his magic power rather than his physical form.  Or he/his power is still growing because his spirit still exists, even if his body is long rotted.Have we seen Kerafym though?  His size in EQ1 may not be on the same scale as in EQ2.  Jaled Dar could be the first sign of the really, really big dragons come out to play.

[Urgol]

Well, my best guess is that the real size of Jaled was the one matching his remaining skeleton..

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote>My list of things to run and see when my copy of RoK finally shows up just keeps getting bigger...This just sounds incredible.  Makes you wonder whether Veeshan started off somewhere as a little 20 foot hatchling.  And if so, how old she was when she put her mark on Norrath.  And how big she is now...Are Jaled Dar's bones on par with his ghostly self?  If not, it may be reflecting the measure of his magic power rather than his physical form.  Or he/his power is still growing because his spirit still exists, even if his body is long rotted.Have we seen Kerafym though?  His size in EQ1 may not be on the same scale as in EQ2.  Jaled Dar could be the first sign of the really, really big dragons come out to play.</blockquote>Yeah. The  bones are that big, and yes I was comparing Kerafyrm's EQlive model.

[Agaxal]

All i know is that I was entranced when I saw this for the first time.  I was up on the cliff on the side with the Bellywhumpers and the edge of his wing went right through me.Simply amazing.agressiv

[TheGReddy]

Tarinax probably is about the same size as Jaled Dar. It could be that these "undead" dragons so to speak can grow larger with out a scaly pelt keeping them in.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />I heard that trakanon used to be undead...wonder how big he is now.

[PublicVoid]

He had bolster on when he died.

[Gannor]

The general theory, as I understand it, is that Dragons grow indefinentally. The older a Dragon, the larger, and vice versa. Darathar is old, but not that old. Nagafen is moderately old, but still looking within the general span of the existance of Humanity/Barbarianm kind. Jaled Dar and Tarinax are ancient, easily pre-dating the Gods of Love and Valor themselves and the barbarians/humans that came resulting from their actions. Jaled Dar and Tarinax, to my understanding, are among the oldst brood. Jaled was held in esteems on comperable terms to Lord Yelinak himself, hence the whole reason Jaled's exile became a major Draconic faction and not just a long lonely seclusion. Comperable size to Kerafyrm? Probably. While Kerafyrm is considerable younger, he's still in that age group, likely old enough to recall a time when Shissar and Kedge were world powers.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Gannor wrote:</cite><blockquote>The general theory, as I understand it, is that Dragons grow indefinentally. The older a Dragon, the larger, and vice versa. Darathar is old, but not that old. Nagafen is moderately old, but still looking within the general span of the existance of Humanity/Barbarianm kind. Jaled Dar and Tarinax are ancient, easily pre-dating the Gods of Love and Valor themselves and the barbarians/humans that came resulting from their actions. Jaled Dar and Tarinax, to my understanding, are among the oldst brood. Jaled was held in esteems on comperable terms to Lord Yelinak himself, hence the whole reason Jaled's exile became a major Draconic faction and not just a long lonely seclusion. Comperable size to Kerafyrm? Probably. While Kerafyrm is considerable younger, he's still in that age group, likely old enough to recall a time when Shissar and Kedge were world powers.</blockquote>True, but keep in mind that Kerafyrm is also a prismatic dragon, and even in EQ1 we've only encountered a couple such creatures.  It could be that prismatic dragons just start out naturally bigger than other dragons.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Oniase@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tarinax probably is about the same size as Jaled Dar. It could be that these "undead" dragons so to speak can grow larger with out a scaly pelt keeping them in.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />I heard that trakanon used to be undead...wonder how big he is now.</blockquote>Nah. Tarinax doesn't size up. His wingspan doesn't cover the entire area when you fight him in DT.

[Gannor]

True enough, but he's rather lesser than Jaled Dar, we'll all agree. In age and status, I'd assume.

[Lodrelhai]

Just been sneaking around there... he looks incredible!  If you get close enough, you can hear him roaring and the wind from his wings.  And he's surrounded by undead iksar dragonslayers and dragonmages.And there's the small box inside Jaled'Dar's skull - looks like one of the music boxes from Frostfell 1, or the jewelry boxes you have to grab for a sabotage quest in Freeport.

[RpTheHotrod]

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[DreamerClou]

It is hard to believe that a dragon that size was defeated by some Iksar that was destined to become someone's boots...

[Xanrn]

<p>Yeah I want to know how big the Sokokar was the Iksar Emperor was riding, because Player Sokokar are the size of griffins.</p><p>What happened seems to be, Jaled got knocked out of the sky and then got overwhelmed on the ground.</p><p>Also the Ghost is smaller than the Skeleton.</p><p>Although the Skeleton is similiar in size to the Dragon skeletons in the Bonemire.</p><p>Nagafen is tiny due to years being imprisoned in cramped conditions.</p>

[Gasheron]

Actually, Jaled'Dar and Ganak died while battling in the sky, in an explosion of magic and fire. The Sebilisian Empire possesed a great number of magical artifacts, and had already had two incredibly powerful dark magics users as Emporers (Venril and Atrebe). Also, the Ring of Scale are the ones who *started* the war between the Sebilisian Empire and the dragons, as Trak'Anon saw the empire as a threat. It might not semm plausible, but the Sebilisian Empire rivaled the dragons, and Ganak did kill Jaled'Dar, just as Jaled'Dar killed Ganak.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Xanrn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah I want to know how big the Sokokar was the Iksar Emperor was riding, because Player Sokokar are the size of griffins.</p><p>What happened seems to be, Jaled got knocked out of the sky and then got overwhelmed on the ground.</p><p>Also the Ghost is smaller than the Skeleton.</p><p>Although the Skeleton is similiar in size to the Dragon skeletons in the Bonemire.</p><p>Nagafen is tiny due to years being imprisoned in cramped conditions.</p></blockquote>I'm not buying that. Naggy isn't sealed inside the mountain. he can fly around if he needs to.

[DreamerClou]

If Jaled Dar was killed in Field of Bone, what was laid to rest in the Dragon necropolis?

[Rad]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Xanrn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah I want to know how big the Sokokar was the Iksar Emperor was riding, because Player Sokokar are the size of griffins.</p><p>What happened seems to be, Jaled got knocked out of the sky and then got overwhelmed on the ground.</p><p>Also the Ghost is smaller than the Skeleton.</p><p>Although the Skeleton is similiar in size to the Dragon skeletons in the Bonemire.</p><p>Nagafen is tiny due to years being imprisoned in cramped conditions.</p></blockquote>I'm not buying that. Naggy isn't sealed inside the mountain. he can fly around if he needs to.</blockquote>To my understanding, he was sealed up until The Rending (Or was it the shattering?  The one that split up Antonica, I forget which is which).  That's still a long time, though I'm not going to say it has anything to do with his size.I don't think anything of Jaled`Dar is in the Dragon Necropolis except for his Shade.  What is a shade exactly?  I dunno, a ghost maybe?  He was there to aid adventurers in awakening Kerafyrm.  I'm not sure if he traveled there on his own or not.

[Cusashorn]

His shade (His soul) still managed to get back to the Dragon Necropolis. It's never explained how that was accomplished though.

[DreamerClou]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>His shade (His soul) still managed to get back to the Dragon Necropolis. It's never explained how that was accomplished though.</blockquote>If Jaled Dar's soul is in Dragon Necropolis, what is that ghostly image above his bones in the Field of Bone then? 

[Urgol]

His soul seems to be chained to the bones..

[Cusashorn]

<cite>DreamerCloud9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>His shade (His soul) still managed to get back to the Dragon Necropolis. It's never explained how that was accomplished though.</blockquote>If Jaled Dar's soul is in Dragon Necropolis, what is that ghostly image above his bones in the Field of Bone then?  </blockquote>As I said in my original topic post, it's the magical aura emanating from his bones. Remember, his soul is still his conciousness. If his aura was his soul, we'd be hearing him talk at night.

[DreamerClou]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DreamerCloud9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>His shade (His soul) still managed to get back to the Dragon Necropolis. It's never explained how that was accomplished though.</blockquote>If Jaled Dar's soul is in Dragon Necropolis, what is that ghostly image above his bones in the Field of Bone then?  </blockquote>As I said in my original topic post, it's the magical aura emanating from his bones. Remember, his soul is still his conciousness. If his aura was his soul, we'd be hearing him talk at night.</blockquote>Ah gotcha I think.  The ghostly image in the Field of Bone is more of a residual aura or energy and NOT his actual spirit which was somehow transported to Dragon Necropolis ages ago.

[teddyboy4]

I swear I remember reading somewhere that at least some small part of Jaled'dar was laid to rest, in honor, at the Dragon Necropolis. I just did some digging around but I couldn't find the piece I was looking for, I'm gonna keep digging and I'll come back w/ a link when, and if, I find it.

[MoD1133]

I think Jaled Dar is that huge because he is a first brood dragon, basically a direct child/hatchling of veeshan.