Is it just me or...

[DarumaRanger]

<p>Hail and well met, all,</p><p>This is a rather "spec specific" issue, so please bear with me.</p><p>I'm not sure if my character is bugged or they changed... for god alone knows what reason... something.</p><p>I'm a Lv 70 Kerra Fury.</p><p>I have 5 points into Peerless Predator; 35% run speed enhancement</p><p>I have 8 points into Hierophant's Movement, (16 total in Druid WIS tree); 10% run speed enhancement</p><p>I have the Kerra racial run speed; 5% run speed enhancement.... Yes I reselected this once I logged in... still no 5% bonus while Peerless Predator, or SoW for that matter... is up.  I only get the 5% when I drop Peerless Predator, (Not sure there's any Fury out there who ever has this buff down), or when I'm invis'd.</p><p>Up until RoK I always ran at 50% run speed.</p><p>After RoK I now run at 45% run speed... as if my 5% racial isn't being taken into account.</p><p>Anyone know if this is new or is it just me?</p><p>If this is a by design change... anyone have any idea why they'd do something so asinine?</p><p>Would too many people complain that we're almost as fast as the new 52% Rhino without having to spend any money?</p><p>On the flip side... my innate 10% from Hierophant's Movement and 5% Kerra racial work when I'm invis'd... so while invis'd I now run at 15%.</p><p>I'm not sure if I'm ok with this trade off or not, hehehe... but dangit... I want my 50% back <stamps his foot and whines></p><p>I'm going to start doing a /bug on this every night I think 'til I hear otherwise.</p><p>Just wondering if I'm alone in this.</p><p>Thanks folks.</p>

[Ferunnia]

Lol, I wouldn't be spouting out that you can run above normal speed while invised...unless you want it fixed. Also, does the kerra racial still say in-combat or did they stealth nerf it?

[gatrm]

The running fast while stealthed is one of the new racial traits for kerra (and I think dark elves), so it's in by design and not a bug.  The fury specific stuff, I don't know....however, the 5% racial runspeed on my kerra did not used to stack with any other runspeed buffs, but now seems to stack with some other speed buffs (doesnt stack with mounts).

[DarumaRanger]

<p>Aye, the run speed while invis'd is by design... so not worried about that getting yanked away.</p><p>As to whether or not it says in or out of combat... honestly... I don't recall... I'll check tonight.</p><p>The Kerra racial never stacked with m run speed buffs per se... meaning SoW... but it always stacked with the run speed enhancement from Peerless Predator... which by definition isn't a run speed buff in and of itself... the run speed enhancement is granted via AA spec... and the run speed from that, along with Hierophant's Movement always USED to stack with my Kerra racial.</p><p>Bummer too... may as well just buy a bloody mount and respec those points out of the WIS line.</p><p>Meh... not game breaking... but not being a min/max player I played and picked specs for what I found enjoyable and/or amusing... and I found running faster, or as fast as, almost every mount in the game... without having to have a mount... enjoyable and amusing, hehehe.</p><p>BAH HUMBUG !!!</p>

[rel]

Well, not sure if you figured out what happened yet, but same thing happened to me and basically it was just all the traits were reset.  Had to choose them all over again because of the new format they put up.

[TehDrunkenFury]

I'm seriously confused. With enhanced predator + sow a person should be at 55% all the time. Warden's sow should put you at 80%And you were at 50%, now 45%. I'm not even going to ask why you had points in wisdom.

[DarumaRanger]

<p>I think I do know what happened.</p><p>As I mentioned in my OP I did reselect the trait... so that's not it.</p><p>Also this is on a PvE server... so SoW and PP do NOT stack... that's PvP ONLY.</p><p>The trait now says "out of combat" runspeed and thus will not stack with PP or Hierophant's Movement... both of which say "In combat runspeed."</p><p>For those who don't know... these various flavors; "out of combat" and "in combat" no longer have anything to do with whether you're in combat or not UNLESS YOU'RE ON  A PvP server... SoW does not suspend while in combat... Peerless Predator AA enhanced runspeed does not suspend while OUT of combat.</p><p>These distinctions now only mean they don't stack with one another.</p><p>For god alone knows what reason they've decided to specify the Kerra runspeed as out of combat and thus it won't stack with Peerless Predator or SoW for that matter.</p><p>It's never stacked with SoW but used to do so with PP... either way... BAH... I'm not happy about it.</p><p>Take care.</p>

[Radigazt]

As a side note, the 15% runspeed you're seeing in stealth/invis is an innate Kerran trait.  It's different than the 5% you selected, you get it for simply being Kerran.  So, it's not that 5% selected racial trait or the 10% from the Wisdom line ... even without both of those you'd be getting 15% extra speed ins stealth/invis simply because you're a Kerran.  Other races get it too, like Ratonga and Dark Elves. 

[Winter12345]

<cite>gatrm wrote:</cite><blockquote>but now seems to stack with some other speed buffs (doesnt stack with mounts)</blockquote><p>Hmm thats interesting, i used to have a kerra and i picked the 5% speed boosts twice at 10 and 20, when i bought a runjakun hillrunner horse, it stacked, instead of running 40% i ran 50% </p><p>Lol if this was a bug.. id pass on sending it <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Ferunnia]

<cite>DarumaRanger wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also this is on a PvE server... so SoW and PP do NOT stack... that's PvP ONLY.<p>The trait now says "out of combat" runspeed and thus will not stack with PP or Hierophant's Movement... both of which say "In combat runspeed."</p><p>For those who don't know... these various flavors; "out of combat" and "in combat" no longer have anything to do with whether you're in combat or not UNLESS YOU'RE ON  A PvP server... SoW does not suspend while in combat... Peerless Predator AA enhanced runspeed does not suspend while OUT of combat.</p><p>These distinctions now only mean they don't stack with one another.</p></blockquote>Umm...No. It goes beyond stacking the buffs. Sow don't work in combat. Never has, Never will.