View Full Version : Our new skills?
littleman17
11-10-2007, 03:59 AM
<p>Ok, so I have heard bits and pieces about what we've got, and I would like for a beta ranger to confirm it... I would also like for the beans to be spilled about our 80 skill!</p><p>1. Heard SoA got an upgrade, is it any good?</p><p>2. Sniper's got one too, is this true, and does it do at least 30k (at ad3) dmg, or is it useless like it's current form?</p><p>3. Primal Agility and Honed Reflexes scale as we level? This would pwn...</p><p>So, SPILL!</p>
TemerNeziel
11-10-2007, 09:55 AM
<span class="postbody">Not in beta, but I had the list given to me by someone that is and I made guesses (good I hope) at what they replace, which are in the the brackets. The last 3 skills that are separated from the others are those that won't upgrade (unless anytihng has been changed about the 50/70 skills, but I haven't heard anything about that as of this post). Oh and honed/primal don't change number-wise as you level, but they will always have the same effectiveness as they are %age based.Ranger 71 - Jolting Strike (Shocking Thrust) 71 - Rear Shot (Culling of the Weak) 71 - Searing Shot (Precise Shot) 72 - Archery Stance (Archer's Frenzy) 72 - Arrow Tear (Arrow Rip) 72 - Roped Shot (Snaring Shot) 72 - Spiked Trap (Thorny Trap) 73 - Baffle (Elude) 73 - Amazing Arrow (Amazing Shot) 73 - Fittest Survival (Selection?) 73 - Leaf Stance (Dance of Trees) 74 - Long Stab (Longblade) 74 - Repeating Arrows (Stream of Arrows) 74 - Used Arrows (Reclaimed Arrows) 74 - Vulnerable Arrow (Devitalising Arrow) 75 - Combustion Strike (Emberstrike) 75 - Steady Bow (Focus Aim) 75 - Vulnerability (Cover Fire) 76 - Rope (Vines) 76 - Sniper Arrow (Sniper's Shot) 77 - Blame Arrow (Confounding Arrow) 77 - Kunark Blade (Ranger's Blade) 78 - Bloody Reminder (Mortal Reminder) 78 - Hawk Attack (Hawk Dive) 78 - Stealth Fire (Veild Fire) 79 - Immobilizing Lunge (Lunging Joust) 79 - Shroud of Kunark (Cloak of the Forest) 80 - Spy (Surveillance) 80 - Triple Burst (Triple Volley) 80 - Coverage - used after a stealth or positional attack, it places the ranger in stealth and the next stealth attack completed does extra damage. 35 - Honed Reflexes (scales as its haste) 53 - Primal Agility (%age based) 70 - Rain of Arrows (the 50/70 CA)</span>
TemerNeziel
11-10-2007, 09:58 AM
Oh and these pictures I had given to me by that same person:<a href="http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/Caleebeq2/ranger_set_1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/...anger_set_1.jpg</a><a href="http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/Caleebeq2/ranger_set_2.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/...anger_set_2.jpg</a><a href="http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t216/Caleebeq2/ranger_setlook.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/...ger_setlook.jpg</a><a href="http://ape.b0ne.com:88/beta/dragonhawk.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ape.b0ne.com:88/beta/dragonhawk.jpg</a>
Deterre
11-10-2007, 10:38 AM
Now I wish someone would say something about the arrows...
Sham07
11-10-2007, 01:00 PM
An updatet (?) list (<a href="http://eq2.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=180" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">link</a>) of ranger spells at tentonhammer includes an upgrade to rain of arrows for lvl 80, Shower of Arrows.Thanks for sharing the info Cal, is there any chance to get a screenie of coverage or a short statement on how it works exactly? Casttime, max range, damage increase etc...
Merkad
11-10-2007, 01:03 PM
There have been murmurs about us getting an upgrade to our marquee skill, most lists I have seen do not reflect this, but at eq2flames, they have Shower of Arrows (80) for us, and Execute (80) for Assassins. Any truth to this? Seems weird most lists do not say this when this one does, and the Devs did suggest that it would happen.Merkades, 70th Ranger.Siege, Najena.
TemerNeziel
11-10-2007, 01:31 PM
<cite>Sham07 wrote:</cite><blockquote>An updatet (?) list (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=180" target="_blank">link</a>) of ranger spells at tentonhammer includes an upgrade to rain of arrows for lvl 80, Shower of Arrows.Thanks for sharing the info Cal, is there any chance to get a screenie of coverage or a short statement on how it works exactly? Casttime, max range, damage increase etc...</blockquote>Thats the first I've heard that name, but it could have been a 'last minute' change they implemented, or are planning to do shortly after RoK hits. Of course if you check the 7 set bonus on the Veeshan's Peak set they'd have to adjust it to make it worthwhile. And sorry I don't have a pic of the skill yet, but I'm pestering all my Beta Guildies for it, so hopefully we haves pics soonish. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
littleman17
11-10-2007, 03:00 PM
<p>A a few questions about coverage:</p><p>1. How close is nearby? Do I have to be completely out of melee range, or can this be used whilst in the sweet spot?</p><p>2. How much extra damage? Is it worth chaining two stealth attacks together, or will our auto attack do more?</p><p>Also, what is the damage on the new snipers? And, is our upgraded trap good for more than the root now?</p>
TemerNeziel
11-10-2007, 03:49 PM
Another bow, I'm pretty sure the '10 dps' effect is just the adorn, but the 7 attack speed stacks with other haste.<a href="http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/metafb/RoK/bow.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/...afb/RoK/bow.jpg</a>
<p>Coverage -</p><p>approx 8 - 10 m away from a mob no details listed on ca</p><p>damage - 10 to 20% from app1 to m1</p><p>Sniper Arrow at a1 is 5188 - 8646 @ 530 StrShower of Arrows at a1 is 2172 - 3621 @ 530 Str</p><p>I'd add more, but I am not filled with positive thoughts atm, so I'll just sign off.</p><p>Brega - 70 Ranger, Test ServerGoran - 37 Ranger, UnrestCrux - 42 Ranger, Bazaar</p>
littleman17
11-10-2007, 04:11 PM
<p>Ok, so coverage is a pretty decent skill... needs more of a boost though. Sniper's is /STILL/ useless... it only get 2k damage increase on either side after nearly 20 levels? I do anywhere from 2k-8k with my auto attacks... so two of my auto attacks from TIER 7 still does more than a new tier 8 skill. This attack if left on its 15 minute timer needs to do 10k-20k base damage... or if they keep the current damages, it needs to be lowered down to a 5 minute timer with a 2 second cast.</p><p>Anyone got info on repeating/spiked?</p>
Analisa
11-10-2007, 08:05 PM
<p>I took these screenshots pretty early in beta, so some of the might have changed. I know they removed focus aim upgrade and added uppgrade for rain of arrows.</p><p><img src="http://ape.b0ne.com:88/beta/rangerM1_1.jpg" alt="" width="1208" height="749" border="0" /></p><p><img src="http://ape.b0ne.com:88/beta/rangerM1_2.jpg" alt="" width="1213" height="847" border="0" /></p><p><img src="http://ape.b0ne.com:88/beta/rangerM1_3.jpg" alt="" width="1211" height="799" border="0" /></p><p><img src="http://ape.b0ne.com:88/beta/rangerM1_4.jpg" alt="" width="1211" height="776" border="0" /></p>
littleman17
11-10-2007, 08:38 PM
No screenie of sniper's so that we can show the devs just how useless it is? And I see that stream is still useless. Guess it still won't make it on my bar.
<cite>littleman17 wrote:</cite><blockquote>No screenie of sniper's so that we can show the devs just how useless it is? And I see that stream is still useless. Guess it still won't make it on my bar.</blockquote>I can see a sniper shot upgrade...sniper arrow, level 76 7771 - 12878 /shrug complain if ya want, its not gonna do anything <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <3 SoE ranger love!!
<cite>littleman17 wrote:</cite><blockquote>...And I see that stream is still useless. Guess it still won't make it on my bar.</blockquote>Don't forget all those lovely new AAs you get with the expansion. Might be able to "invest" 5 in upgrading SoA and making it marginally less sucky.
Zholain
11-12-2007, 11:22 AM
<cite>Brega wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Shower of Arrows at a1 is 2172 - 3621 @ 530 Str</p></blockquote>Is it just me, or does the damage of Shower of Arrows seem kinda low as well?
Sham07
11-12-2007, 12:27 PM
That seems to be the date for an adept 1 version and with pretty low str aswell so I guess its ok.Overall I have to say thou that our CAs dont get the upgrade I was hoping to see. With doing most of our damage from AAs right now I find it [Removed for Content] hard to see how we could compete with rogues/assassins when they got weapons like that talon of malyngx linked earlier or other weps with 100dr+ and a max damage of 350+. The bows linked so far in various threats do have some potential but it seems minor compared to what other classes get.Assassins have always done more damage with CAs than we did and I dont see a change there when going through our upgradet spell list. Even with getting their autoattack "only" to the same lvl as rangers they should outparse us by alot, and thats without considering the extra dps they get from sta-line and what seems like a lack of proper tier arrows for us right now.Im not on beta, so i dont know the exact numbers of what classes parsed there on raids/groups, but i hear from assassins parsing 8k constantly and tanks at 3-4k zw. Right now I do not yet see the potential of such an increase in the ranger class.
Walford
11-21-2007, 01:53 PM
<p>Hmmm...</p><p>Haven't been on in a while... thanks for the info. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Canul</p><p>Ranger </p><p><Renegades> AB</p>
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