Illuisionst or Dirge ? Which is better overall ?

[EomerFarst]

<p>I seem to be in conflict with our raidleader who is unsure about which is better.</p><p>What are the thoughts of other Rangers.</p>

[BigChiefJJ]

<p>A lot has to depend on how you are equipped, who else is in your group and how the Ill and Dirge are set up - for me, I tend to see higher dps numbers with a dirge rather than Ill, but my self buffed haste is near 90 and my dps buff is 28 - so the Ill haste buff only shaves a few tenths of seconds off of my weapon dely.   I'm also not the only ranger in my group so buffs don't seem to get concentrated on me, and we dont always have a Inq for his dps buff.</p><p>The main differences that you will see is that your Ill will buff your haste a good bit and with Illus. Arm can give one person added 25% (I think) to double attack. The dirge can give your group  +dps, +ranged, +ranged crit (wis spec) 20% increased proc chance (luck of dirge) a group damage proc, + str, and a double attack % (sta spec).</p>

[Ranja]

<cite>EomerFarstar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I seem to be in conflict with our raidleader who is unsure about which is better.</p><p>What are the thoughts of other Rangers.</p></blockquote>If you are the one with IA on you then illy <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. But for all around group goodness, the dirge is better suited. Ideally, you would have both. Common melee group for us is:DirgeIllyBrigSwashieRangerFury or QuizzyAnd I get IA..yipee!

[EomerFarst]

<p>The group set up I had in mind was</p><p> Ranger - Int Buffs/Double Attack/VimDirge - Int Buffs/Dirge Buffs/Haste/VimIlluisionist - Haste buffs/Int Buffs and Double Attack.Fury - Int Buffs/Heal Crits and Casting Speed or Inquist for Fanatisim and Divine Recovery.Brigand - Agitate/Dirge buffs/Haste.Open slot - Probably Warlock for Time Compression and increased procs on poisons or Assasin for Scout DPS.</p>

[littleman17]

<p>On one raid, I had our perfect group minus a zerker... so I had</p><p>MeIllusionistInqFuryDirgeSK</p><p>(and how the bloody hell do you guys stop that annoying extra line between your enters to not show up?)</p>

[Giland]

I would say the dirge.They have mana regen (I never run low myself, so not helpful to me)They have DPS buff. They can raise skills and str/agi. With AAs they can increase double attack and critsFor melees, they can cast COB. They also have that one that procs a disease damage spell 12% of the time I think?They can increase proc triggers by 20%

[Bre]

<cite>littleman17 wrote:</cite> <blockquote>(and how the bloody hell do you guys stop that annoying extra line between your enters to not show up?)</blockquote><p>Hold down Shift and hit Enter</p><p>Brega - 70 Ranger, Test Server</p>

[littleman17]

<p>(Thanks Brega)</p><p>On topic, if you can only have one of the two classes, then I say the dirge. But, tell your leader that your dps will go through the roof if you get both + an inq.</p>

[Magnethjelmen2]

Ideal ranger grp would be:RangerIllusionistDirgeZerkerWarlockInquisitorCo uld be the OT grp in a raid, but the assasin would prolly get the spot for the hate to the OT <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />