Pity the Sarnak

[Fodslad]

<p>Because it's going to be an absolute slaughter when they peek there heads out at level 10.</p>

[Golu]

I dunno, they're will probably be enough to out number anyone, because you know most everyone rerolls to the new race.

[Tae]

<cite>Fodslad wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Because it's going to be an absolute slaughter when they peek there heads out at level 10.</p></blockquote>I'm hoping that the huge amount of sarnak complaining about dying when they're in full groups to one or two people will encourage sony to take a long hard look at level locking.

[Bloodfa]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fodslad wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Because it's going to be an absolute slaughter when they peek there heads out at level 10.</p></blockquote>I'm hoping that the huge amount of <i>devs and GM's playing </i>sarnak complaining about dying when they're in full groups to one or two people will encourage sony to take a long hard look at level locking.</blockquote>Fixed that for ya.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[bangbangshang]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fodslad wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Because it's going to be an absolute slaughter when they peek there heads out at level 10.</p></blockquote>I'm hoping that the huge amount of sarnak complaining about dying when they're in full groups to one or two people will encourage sony to take a long hard look at level locking.</blockquote><p>2 lvl 14 toons with MC gear and adept III CA's are going to wipe a group of ungeared lvl 10's whether the lvl 14's locked or not.  so your point was what exactly? oh that's right, it was just a baseless whine.</p>

[Tae]

<cite>bangbangshang wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>2 lvl 14 toons with MC gear and adept III CA's are going to wipe a group of ungeared lvl 10's whether the lvl 14's locked or not.  so your point was what exactly? oh that's right, it was just a baseless whine. </blockquote>Other than lockers who bothers to gear their level 14s up? I don't know anyone who does.

[Hinosh]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>bangbangshang wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>2 lvl 14 toons with MC gear and adept III CA's are going to wipe a group of ungeared lvl 10's whether the lvl 14's locked or not.  so your point was what exactly? oh that's right, it was just a baseless whine.</blockquote>Other than lockers who bothers to gear their level 14s up? I don't know anyone who does.</blockquote><p>If they remove level-locking, what do you think will happen?</p><p>1. The 14 twinks will PvP untill they reach a level too high to kill low level players. What happens next? Sell the stuff on their characters, send them to their higher level alts, delete the character and start over. You can't prevent this scenario from happenning.</p><p>2. The current twinks, the ones who are level 17 with 18 AAs, will keep their level locked but try to level up to 30 as soon as they can and gain the most AAs they can get before the level-locking is moved to level 30. This way, they will be GODS against players who reach level 30 after the change is put in. So you only make it worse by preventing any resistance to form against these players.</p><p>3. The people who level-lock at 14 to farm those easy writs for faction with the factions in Qeynos/Freeport and not to PvP 24/7 on PvP servers will not be able to do so if they change the way level-locking works. Believe it or not, people actually play on PvP JUST for the "added danger" SoE is slowly taking away from the game.</p><p>I hope this is the last level-locking related post in this non-level-locking related thread. Try to stay on topic here.</p>

[bangbangshang]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>bangbangshang wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>2 lvl 14 toons with MC gear and adept III CA's are going to wipe a group of ungeared lvl 10's whether the lvl 14's locked or not.  so your point was what exactly? oh that's right, it was just a baseless whine.</blockquote>Other than lockers who bothers to gear their level 14s up? I don't know anyone who does.</blockquote><p>And I'm sure you know everyone on the server.</p><p>Who would gear up?  Someone who wants to survive their trip through T2?</p><p>So let's say those 2 lvl 14's are in quested treasured gear and mostly adept I and one or two adept III...they still wipe the lvl 10 group.  So once again, your point was what?</p>

[Mildavyn]

<cite>bangbangshang wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Other than lockers who bothers to gear their level 14s up? I don't know anyone who does.</blockquote><p>And I'm sure you know everyone on the server.</p></blockquote><p>If we assume that something does not exist (Non-lockers who twink), it is always possible to show that this assumption is invalid by finding a single counter-example (A non-locker who twinks). If on the other hand we assume that something does exist, and if the thing in question is not provably impossible, showing that the assumption is invalid may require an exhaustive search of all possible places where such a thing might be found (every T2 toon on every server), to show that it isn't there. Such an exhaustive search is often impractical or impossible, such as in this case. Therefore it is generally accepted that we must assume things do not exist unless we have evidence that they do.</p><p>Therefore there ARE non-lockers who twink. (Such as myself)</p>

[Jayingsoo]

<span style="color: #0066ff;">lol... people that will roll Sarnaks (myself included) will deal with the BS for one maybe 1 hour, hit level 12, use our filthy rich mains to deck out the new Sarnak characters, and then go on rampages.  I don't feel bad for anyone except the people that are gonna be humped over and over by my Sarnak.</span>

[Bloodfa]

<cite>Jayingsoo wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #0066ff;"><snipped> ....  I don't feel bad for anyone except the people that are gonna be humped over and over by my Sarnak.</span></blockquote>Well there's an image I didn't need.

[HerbertWalker]

<p>I'm rolling up a gnome right now in anticipation of getting humped by your sarnak.</p>

[WasFycksir]

<p>How will this differ from either of the two new fairy races?  There was already an established PVP population when these both came out too.</p><p>Don't really see the point here.</p>

[wellehad0]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>bangbangshang wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>2 lvl 14 toons with MC gear and adept III CA's are going to wipe a group of ungeared lvl 10's whether the lvl 14's locked or not.  so your point was what exactly? oh that's right, it was just a baseless whine.</blockquote>Other than lockers who bothers to gear their level 14s up? I don't know anyone who does.</blockquote>umm why would you not gear up for your lvl if you are non locked MC gear at 12 can get you all the way to lvl 22 that is ten lvls..  no matter  waht you try to spin this at peopel in full gear can solo 10X faster then people in all treasure... so if you are to lazy to gear up why does everybody else need to be punished if you dont waht to have a chance to be ganked at all times try a blue server i hear they have a /duel so that way you can be ready

[Fluffypaws]

bang bang it seems like you are purposly trying to trigger an arguement with taer by being a smart [Removed for Content], not clever and besides, who would harvest for hours OR spend alot of coin for gear that u will grow out of so quick because of the speed you gain xp at lower lvls?

[SumOldMan]

On a side note -- I dont think i saw even 1 Qeymosian Scum in TD the whole time i was there yesterday .... had to go to CL/DLW to find some <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[bangbangshang]

<cite>Fluffypaws@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>bang bang it seems like you are purposly trying to trigger an arguement with taer by being a smart [I cannot control my vocabulary], not clever and besides, who would harvest for hours OR spend alot of coin for gear that u will grow out of so quick because of the speed you gain xp at lower lvls?</blockquote><p>Seems to me that the you are also as 2 dimensional as your whiney friend.  You assume that because someone would spend time to harvest and get gear that it is to stay "locked" at 14 to roam the noob zones forever to gank the poor defensless noobs.  a couple of people have already pointed out in this thread other reasons to harvest and gear up throughout T2.  Other reasons could be to farm rares and T2 masters to make some coin for the later tiers.  But you and your whiney friend seem fixated and border line traumatized by these phantom T2 terrorists.</p><p>Go play in traffic, son.</p>

[ValashokCatcaller]

<cite>Fodslad wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Because it's going to be an absolute slaughter when they peek there heads out at level 10.</p></blockquote>Not really.  Hit up tim deep last night, did a few quests.  The quest gear is comparable to if not better than MC (I actually replaced a few pieces), so even with APP I's, the baby sarnak are tough little buggers to take down.  Good to see that SOE has done something about gear disparity for lowbies, but not sure how I feel about the MC set that I spent hours gathering for being bested by "kill 10 of these" pieces. 

[Wilde_Night]

<p>Day three.. I've seen two Qeynosians in TD on the Venekor server.  Both 50+, I assume working on deity quests.</p><p>TD must be too much of a pain in the neck to get to right now for the gankers to bother.</p>

[TniEradani]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fodslad wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Because it's going to be an absolute slaughter when they peek there heads out at level 10.</p></blockquote>I'm hoping that the huge amount of sarnak complaining about dying when they're in full groups to one or two people will encourage sony to take a long hard look at level locking.</blockquote>I would rather Sony took a long hard look at people on PvP servers that "leveled to 70 instances, pretty much avoiding pvp altogether". People that don't PvP on PvP servers have no right to tell anyone else about PvP.

[Darman81]

<p>Well the only thing I can say is if you rolled a Sarnak you need to immediately schedule BACK surgery. Everytime I see one it just kills my back! Running around bent over like that just makes me wonder how you can even see!</p>

[PeaSy1]

Honestly i tried to run my lil q out to for those quests cause the gear is totally insane but am at a loss as to how to get there.....and the gear is nuts on my now 15 bruiser who was in all mc gear is almost all out of it cause of this unnatural quest gear.

[Killque]

<p>You may not realize it yet, but the crap treasured drops over in Kunark are rivaling the master crafted jewlery/gear.</p><p>I have some jewlery that is along the following stats.  4sta 5 str 68vs heat 68vs cold / 6str 4sta 12 health 10 power 88vs poison 88vs disease etc. I have 2 rings, 2 earings, 2 bracers and a necklace all with similar stats. Oh, and its level 2 gear.</p><p>I have been attacked by 3 higher con slayers/destroyers etc. Even only being lvl 14 I have yet to loose and I have 4 aa and put 0 money into him. All quest or drop treasued loot. Not to mention, I have 50% run speed for 36 seconds, a lvl 10 pet that attacks (im a bruiser) and 25% snare reduction.</p><p>Bring on the twinks...</p>

[Darken_St]

The gear is the Sarnak are is absoltely [Removed for Content] magnificent. Not only did we not suffer horribly (those who rolled Sarnaks) but we did a good job of protecting Mok Rent (except from Billet and Robear).I love the new race, and am enjoying mine (have tried to 20 brigand and 20 assassin on him trying dirge and then choosing) yes that means Nathraxxis may be rolled from 1-20 a total of 4 times if dirge is not it. Many of us early starters made a mint on the broker with the discovery of gear that is amazing in its stats and has resists from the lowest levels.Thank you SOE, you proved locking isnt a problem if the lower level itemization is made a bit more survival friendly (having 500ish resists in all at 20 ish a godsend)Love ya guys lots,AlexisMy Timorous Deep Leveled Characters-VenekorNathraxxis (tried Brigand, Assassin and now trying Dirge, so far leaning toward brigand)Mikael (leveled 3-22 in the Sarnak area, now a Swashy Ratongan geared well and and found 31 discoveries!)

[SolomanShort]

This latest update is magnificent...For the new players on this server, rolling a sarnak will mean that you have at least a chance due the fantastic lowbie quest gear.If you want to hang about at low levels and get your faction, you'll be able to quest for the treasured stuff, adorn it and be competitive... just need to upgrade your spells and away you go. Turning your xp off will give you about 9 aa at level 14 without having to try. (at least, it did on the inquisitor I rolled). Being competitive just got easier.If you want to level past the T2 pvp, well this is also easier due to the speed in which xp is now gained. It really is faster than it ever used to be, so go roll a toon and off ya go... wooooosh!Fun all round. Not that I ever stopped having fun at any tier, but you know, some people DO like to moan <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />edit for speelong <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />