Class decision only 1 slot left

[Murrdawg69]

<p>As stated above I only have 1 char slot open, and im torn between which class I should make, I have narrowed it down at least and this is for t2 pvp only:</p><p>My decision lies between making a Mystic (with scourge) and a melee spec'd warden or an battle cleric Inquisitor.... </p><p>Now stipulations... money not a virtue right now, I also know scourge requires 25AA to get, which is phesable by level 18 or 19 so means higher end t2 pvp..  I'm also looking for a char that I can solo with.. if its not a soloable char in t2 im not interested my main focus here is to build my faction to max, and joine the rest of twinks at lvl 25 eventually... So as you can see i'm in quite the situation...</p><p>I also realize that after t2 warden goes downhill, so to spend time and build faction for a toon that isnt gonna be able to use it to its max potential would be bad also. Right at the moment i'm leaning towards mystic or Inquisitor... Please state which u prefer and the reason.. Not looking for comments or arguments on other peoples comments, just a few different answers to mine <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Thanks and keep on keepin on..</p><p>-Blood</p>

[Dh]

Warden NEVER goes downhill. I don't think you should listen to these t2 lockers that don't know anything about the game past level 20. If its your first char you should prob level up experience the game and have a character to raise plat on.

[Magius789]

You wouldn't be able to fully melee spec your warden if you locked in T2 so even though they are still powerful in that tier you woulnd't be a real melee specced warden.

[Mighty Melvor]

<cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite><blockquote>You wouldn't be able to fully melee spec your warden if you locked in T2 so even though they are still powerful in that tier you woulnd't be a real melee specced warden.</blockquote><p>/agreed</p><p>You need far too many AA to melee spec a T2 Warden.  In T2, wardens own, but they are all nukers.</p><p>And as for those that tell you wardens go downhill, it more appropriate to say they come back down to earth Norrath)...  In T2 they are god-mode.</p>

[Bozidar]

<p>Anyone want to bet that I can make a melee spec warden in T2 that will own the face of any "nuker" warden in T2?</p><p>You folks are out of touch.  Wardens are completely melee-able from 10+.</p><p>Do you get better as it as you level and get more AA?</p><p>Sure do! Shocking, isn't it?</p><p>Just about every other spec in the game gets better as it levels up.. </p>

[zorros]

<p>Rumour is that there will be no t2 lvl locking soon.</p><p>I will would wait and see what happens when RoK comes out imo</p>

[Magius789]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Anyone want to bet that I can make a melee spec warden in T2 that will own the face of any "nuker" warden in T2?</p><p>You folks are out of touch.  Wardens are completely melee-able from 10+.</p><p>Do you get better as it as you level and get more AA?</p><p>Sure do! Shocking, isn't it?</p><p>Just about every other spec in the game gets better as it levels up.. </p></blockquote>You'll berely get enough AA to convert your spells to melee dmg, you don't even get one of the spells until out of that their.  You cannot get the increased melee crit or the immunity root effects.  Obviously the root effect isn't really a melee specced thing but its so very useful in PvP I don't see why you wouldn't want it.  Yes you can own face with a warden in T2 but the only melee specced you'll be is about two spells converted to melee dmg, and even then the adept III of the spell does more dmg then the aa maxed melee version because its only adept I.  So you'll own but only because healers in that tier are very powerful the actual melee specc part of it would be very little.  Just my opinion.

[ladyvengeance]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Anyone want to bet that I can make a melee spec warden in T2 that will own the face of any "nuker" warden in T2?</p><p>You folks are out of touch.  Wardens are completely melee-able from 10+.</p></blockquote>That may be true, but they're not very good at melee at that level. I made a twinked lvl 11 warden. I had 8 aa and put them all in the 2 combat arts (fire and ice - don't remember what the actual CAs are). But my melee combat arts just didn't do as much damage as my master spells, and the recast timers were longer. You might be able to do it at 17, but at 11 my melee warden sucked.

[Murrdawg69]

<p>Ok so far all warden replies... as I stated above im leaning more towards mystic (scourge) or battle cleric inquisitor... not melee warden.. I just know from experience melee warden can be good, my lvl 14 had enough to turn nukes into CA's and they did nice dam.. especially the aoe one. </p><p>But I would like to see more opinions based on Mystic or Inquisitor... T2.. and i have high level chars, i like t2 pvp toon, as why i'm making a toon to suite that purpose..</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite> <blockquote>You'll berely get enough AA to convert your spells to melee dmg, you don't even get one of the spells until out of that their.  You cannot get the increased melee crit or the immunity root effects.  Obviously the root effect isn't really a melee specced thing but its so very useful in PvP I don't see why you wouldn't want it.  Yes you can own face with a warden in T2 but the only melee specced you'll be is about two spells converted to melee dmg, and even then the adept III of the spell does more dmg then the aa maxed melee version because its only adept I.  So you'll own but only because healers in that tier are very powerful the actual melee specc part of it would be very little.  Just my opinion.</blockquote>When will folks just take my word for it?  I know what i'm talkin about here <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (immunity to root effects.. roflmaobbqturnips)

[Bozidar]

<cite>ladyvengeance wrote:</cite><blockquote>That may be true, but they're not very good at melee at that level. I made a twinked lvl 11 warden. I had 8 aa and put them all in the 2 combat arts (fire and ice - don't remember what the actual CAs are). But my melee combat arts just didn't do as much damage as my master spells, and the recast timers were longer. You might be able to do it at 17, but at 11 my melee warden sucked.</blockquote>You did it wrong.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Murrdawg69 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok so far all warden replies... as I stated above im leaning more towards mystic (scourge) or battle cleric inquisitor... not melee warden.. I just know from experience melee warden can be good, my lvl 14 had enough to turn nukes into CA's and they did nice dam.. especially the aoe one. </p><p>But I would like to see more opinions based on Mystic or Inquisitor... T2.. and i have high level chars, i like t2 pvp toon, as why i'm making a toon to suite that purpose..</p></blockquote><p>IMO, the cleric is WAY more difficult to do at lower levels.  The warden can melee spec because their heals go off so much faster.  I switched my inquis at 20 to melee spec to test things out, but tbh, the int-line with the increase casting speed and divine recovery were WAY more useful in pvp.</p><p>If i can't get a heal off, i'm gonna die either way, and the casting times on my best heals are too long to try to get up 20 times. </p><p>Mystic is different.. i have no experience there.</p>

[Magius789]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite> <blockquote>You'll berely get enough AA to convert your spells to melee dmg, you don't even get one of the spells until out of that their.  You cannot get the increased melee crit or the immunity root effects.  Obviously the root effect isn't really a melee specced thing but its so very useful in PvP I don't see why you wouldn't want it.  Yes you can own face with a warden in T2 but the only melee specced you'll be is about two spells converted to melee dmg, and even then the adept III of the spell does more dmg then the aa maxed melee version because its only adept I.  So you'll own but only because healers in that tier are very powerful the actual melee specc part of it would be very little.  Just my opinion.</blockquote>When will folks just take my word for it?  I know what i'm talkin about here <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /> (immunity to root effects.. roflmaobbqturnips)</blockquote>I don't have to take your word for it, I have a warden of my own and even though our views may differ about the usefullness of the immunity to root effects in PvP you can't argue the fact that in order to be a fully melee specced warden you need way more AA than what you can get in the teens.  You can start to have a melee specced warden in the teens but by no means can you be anywhere near their melee potential in the teens.  Just my opinion however.

[Roald]

<cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Anyone want to bet that I can make a melee spec warden in T2 that will own the face of any "nuker" warden in T2?</p><p>You folks are out of touch.  Wardens are completely melee-able from 10+.</p><p>Do you get better as it as you level and get more AA?</p><p>Sure do! Shocking, isn't it?</p><p>Just about every other spec in the game gets better as it levels up.. </p></blockquote>You'll berely get enough AA to convert your spells to melee dmg, you don't even get one of the spells until out of that their.  You cannot get the increased melee crit or the immunity root effects.  Obviously the root effect isn't really a melee specced thing but its so very useful in PvP I don't see why you wouldn't want it.  Yes you can own face with a warden in T2 but the only melee specced you'll be is about two spells converted to melee dmg, and even then the adept III of the spell does more dmg then the aa maxed melee version because its only adept I.  So you'll own but only because healers in that tier are very powerful the actual melee specc part of it would be very little.  Just my opinion.</blockquote><p>Sadly, ur opinion is based on false knowledge. You dont have to have the spell version to get the melee attack. At level 13 on my Melee warden I had 5 attacks.</p><p>Now hes level 15 and has around 130 str, around 950 health and 900 power solo. A caster warden will never out dps me. I can take more beating than they can, and I can heal for longer. And no I dont have 'Gold-etched buckler of warding' 'Earring of the rat queen' Etc. Purely MC/treasured will a few legendary pieces.</p>