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Maroger
10-28-2007, 03:05 PM
<p>I have a level 22 Fury that I have virtually stopped playing as the toon is so weak as soloer. I have the AA pupply but that is a rather useless pet.</p><p>I don't have too many AA' but where should I put them -- have been putting them into the DD AA ligthning Flash trying to increase my damage.</p><p>I have serious questions about the debuffs -- they don't seem to do any good. I don't notice any difference between fighting a defbuffed mob and one that isn't debuffed.</p>

Knomi
10-28-2007, 03:25 PM
<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have a level 22 Fury that I have virtually stopped playing as the toon is so weak as soloer. I have the AA pupply but that is a rather useless pet.</p><p>I don't have too many AA' but where should I put them -- have been putting them into the DD AA ligthning Flash trying to increase my damage.</p><p>I have serious questions about the debuffs -- they don't seem to do any good. I don't notice any difference between fighting a defbuffed mob and one that isn't debuffed.</p></blockquote><p>I think I'm a little confused.  I saw your note in the defiler forum.  A 22 fury doesn't have a puppy pet (with or without AA).  Are you a mystic?</p><p>Generally speaking, debuffing isn't a necessary tactic in solo content.  </p>

Maroger
10-28-2007, 04:09 PM
<cite>Anphimo@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have a level 22 Fury that I have virtually stopped playing as the toon is so weak as soloer. I have the AA pupply but that is a rather useless pet.</p><p>I don't have too many AA' but where should I put them -- have been putting them into the DD AA ligthning Flash trying to increase my damage.</p><p>I have serious questions about the debuffs -- they don't seem to do any good. I don't notice any difference between fighting a defbuffed mob and one that isn't debuffed.</p></blockquote><p>I think I'm a little confused.  I saw your note in the defiler forum.  A 22 fury doesn't have a puppy pet (with or without AA).  Are you a mystic?</p><p>Generally speaking, debuffing isn't a necessary tactic in solo content.  </p></blockquote>He must be a mystic he has puppy pet - you see how little interest I take in him beyond his jewelcraft.

Knomi
10-28-2007, 04:17 PM
So the irony would be that a fury might be ok.  One of the better class types is the summoner (Necro and Conjuror) for soloing.  Don't be afraid of the bruiser either.  Most people if they were to make a top 5, those four classes would be there in some order.

Maroger
10-28-2007, 04:30 PM
<cite>Anphimo@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>So the irony would be that a fury might be ok.  One of the better class types is the summoner (Necro and Conjuror) for soloing.  Don't be afraid of the bruiser either.  Most people if they were to make a top 5, those four classes would be there in some order.</blockquote>I am looking for make a Sarnak Druid Class so I can get the Portal spells - I guess my choice is Warden or Fury -- so which is the better soloer?

Knomi
10-28-2007, 04:44 PM
<p>You're pretty much back to the same spot.  Go Fury -- you get the ports.  You get to survive battles, and you might just do it within 45 seconds.</p><p>I'd suggest wizard... but I think you'd get frustrated with the sheer number of deaths.  Fury doesn't die nearly as much.</p>

Maroger
10-28-2007, 05:02 PM
<cite>Anphimo@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You're pretty much back to the same spot.  Go Fury -- you get the ports.  You get to survive battles, and you might just do it within 45 seconds.</p><p>I'd suggest wizard... but I think you'd get frustrated with the sheer number of deaths.  Fury doesn't die nearly as much.</p></blockquote>I have a wizard - dies too much as root breaks too often. Also I would need a second account to use his portal spells. The Druids leave a hole in the air and if you are quick you can log on another toon and use it -- I know someone who does that which is why I want a Druid class. I think you are right a Fury is probably best.

ThalasartheGood
10-29-2007, 11:45 AM
<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>I have a wizard - dies too much as root breaks too often. Also I would need a second account to use his portal spells. The Druids leave a hole in the air and if you are quick you can log on another toon and use it -- I know someone who does that which is why I want a Druid class. I think you are right a Fury is probably best. </p></blockquote>I have played a fury as my main since launch.  In my experience, I have never had a problem with soloing.  It may take a little longer to kill the mob as opposed to a wizard or a summoner, but your survivability is much greater.  With some decent armor and upgrading to Adept I's or greater, your fury will truly begin to shine. 

Lightstrider
11-20-2007, 08:31 AM
I have never had any trouble soloing my fury.  I survive battles my other toons would lose.  Your HOT's make a huge difference, in my book.  My fury is my main for that reason.  I would say, however, that you have not yet come into the full glory of the fury if you are in your early 20's.  Once you have your two main nukes and HOT's, it gets lots easier.

Radigazt
11-21-2007, 10:32 PM
<p>If you are in fact a Mystic or Defiler, then I can understand your post.  Those just are not solo classes, sorry to break that to you.  Unfortunately, the Dev's haven't seen to allowing low level Mystics or Defilers do enough DPS to solo.  My suggestions, either find a group or re-roll as a Bruiser, Monk, Warden, Fury, Inquisitor, Necro, Conjuror, or even a Wizard or Warlock.  Those can all solo pretty effectively.  </p><p>But, if you are actualy a 22 Fury, and still having this problem, I'd say tough it out one more level until you get Strike of Thunder, and then you'll become a very good soloer.  When you ding 24, immediately Master 2 Strike of Thunder.  Then your dps will be tons better and soloing will be a joy.  Also, upgrade your root and primarily root/nuke, leading with Strike of Thunder and then the DoT's.  The DoT's will break the root, so snare and re-apply the root, soloing should be easy if u take solo mobs.  </p>

Swifthand
11-21-2007, 11:26 PM
<cite>Vexus@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you are in fact a Mystic or Defiler, then I can understand your post.  Those just are not solo classes, sorry to break that to you.  Unfortunately, the Dev's haven't seen to allowing low level Mystics or Defilers do enough DPS to solo.  My suggestions, either find a group or re-roll as a Bruiser, Monk, Warden, Fury, Inquisitor, Necro, Conjuror, or even a Wizard or Warlock.  Those can all solo pretty effectively.  </p><p>But, if you are actualy a 22 Fury, and still having this problem, I'd say tough it out one more level until you get Strike of Thunder, and then you'll become a very good soloer.  When you ding 24, immediately Master 2 Strike of Thunder.  Then your dps will be tons better and soloing will be a joy.  Also, upgrade your root and primarily root/nuke, leading with Strike of Thunder and then the DoT's.  The DoT's will break the root, so snare and re-apply the root, soloing should be easy if u take solo mobs.  </p></blockquote>Can Fury's solo + ^^^ named mobs 4-5 levels lower than them like Warden's can? Also while were on the topic of "Priest" classes, is it also possible for Inquisitors to solo + ^^^ named mobs as well? Or are Warden's and Necro's like the only ones that can do it well?

Radigazt
11-22-2007, 12:21 AM
<cite>Swifthand wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vexus@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you are in fact a Mystic or Defiler, then I can understand your post.  Those just are not solo classes, sorry to break that to you.  Unfortunately, the Dev's haven't seen to allowing low level Mystics or Defilers do enough DPS to solo.  My suggestions, either find a group or re-roll as a Bruiser, Monk, Warden, Fury, Inquisitor, Necro, Conjuror, or even a Wizard or Warlock.  Those can all solo pretty effectively.  </p><p>But, if you are actualy a 22 Fury, and still having this problem, I'd say tough it out one more level until you get Strike of Thunder, and then you'll become a very good soloer.  When you ding 24, immediately Master 2 Strike of Thunder.  Then your dps will be tons better and soloing will be a joy.  Also, upgrade your root and primarily root/nuke, leading with Strike of Thunder and then the DoT's.  The DoT's will break the root, so snare and re-apply the root, soloing should be easy if u take solo mobs.  </p></blockquote>Can Fury's solo + ^^^ named mobs 4-5 levels lower than them like Warden's can? Also while were on the topic of "Priest" classes, is it also possible for Inquisitors to solo + ^^^ named mobs as well? Or are Warden's and Necro's like the only ones that can do it well?</blockquote><p>Well at that level, no.  But I can tell you that in the late 40's a Fury can beat some ^^^ nameds that are 4-5 levels below him.  Root/nuke, snare while in Vortex will get you pretty far, and if you can keep them at distance and kite them effectively without running out of power, yeah, it can be done.  Caster mobs are harder usually, and if you can't keep your distance from those mele mobs, you're not gonna be able to do it, but with the right mob, right gear, right AA specs, yeah a Fury can do that also, at least some of the time.  </p><p>As for an Inquisitor, you'd be shocked at just how strong they can be.  I don't have an Inquisitor to say, but I have a friend that's got a real beast of an Inquisitor, and I'm pretty confident that in his 40's he can solo some ^^^ nameds that are 4-5 levels below him.  Again, right mob, right gear, right AA's, but I believe it can be done.  </p><p>In the low 20's, no, I'm fairly confident that neither the Fury nor the Inquisitor could do it.  </p>

Swifthand
11-22-2007, 03:09 AM
<p>Ahh very nice to know! I imagine Inquisitors will probably fair better dealing with caster and undead named mobs than Furies.. And from my experience with EQ1, Druids do well against melee names, and not necessarily caster named. Although, since Inquisitors can use plate, I cant see them having a real tough time against melee named..</p><p>Any Inquisitors out there care to elaborate a little on this? Basically what kind of named do u stay away from, and which types are easy as pie?  Thanks again! </p>

Neximus
11-22-2007, 02:23 PM
<span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I have a 71 Fury and 70 Warden. Both can Solo just fine. As for the poster saying they suck.. well, once you get to your 1st Big Nuke and Master II it, you will find a Fury is a great toon to solo with. Furies don't come into their own until then. They don't heal quite as well as a Warden, but then again they don't need to </span><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></span>

WasFycksir
11-23-2007, 11:37 AM
<cite>Aiene@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">As for the poster saying they suck.. well, once you get to your 1st Big Nuke and Master II it, you will find a Fury is a great toon to solo with. Furies don't come into their own until then. They don't heal quite as well as a Warden, but then again they don't need to </span><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"></span></blockquote><p>No disrepect intended, but I really disagree with the "Master II it"</p><p>The difference between M1 and M2 is there but it's not huge.  Look at the pricing of the M1's on the broker first, then decide.  If you find the M1 dirt cheap then M1 it, and use the M2 for another choice, maybe one that's more expensive.</p><p>On Nagafen (PVP) that's what I did.  For one example I got Strike of Thunder CHEAP, because everyone just "M2's" it, while the Regrowth upgrade (M1) was over 6 plat the day I went shopping.  So yeh I do a smidge less damage on SoT but my regrowth is an M2, and I saved over 4 plat by not making the "standard" choice.</p><p>Your M2 choice can also hinge on your playstyle too, so take that into consideration.</p>