Rise of Kunark the “All-In-One” compilation pack

[Waleska]

I have been a Player since March 2005 after the <b>Launch of Everquest II on 9.11.04</b>. I do not take this lightly. I do not think this is fair to any player and some of us flat out get screwed by Marketing of SOE. If I pre-order Rise of Kunark I receive the base game, three adventure packs, all four expansion packs and Rise of Kunark. All for <b><span style="color: #cc0000;">$39.99</span></b>! The problem I am having is that I already have everthing but <span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Rise of Kunark.</b></span><span style="color: #000000;"> To get Rise of Kunark I most pay $39.99. Also, you get a New Player Race - The Sarnak. However, you DO NOT get any additional Character Slots with this expansion packs. While someone that has been playing any of the Trials or has just the Base Game gets a much better deal for $39.99. Reminds me of Microsoft releasing Halo 2 but will only run on Vista Operating system. Now, is their an option to just get Rise of Kunark at a lesser price?</span>

[Splatty_Spat]

I agree.

[Gungo]

<cite>Waleska wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have been a Player since March 2005 after the <b>Launch of Everquest II on 9.11.04</b>. I do not take this lightly. I do not think this is fair to any player and some of us flat out get screwed by Marketing of SOE. If I pre-order Rise of Kunark I receive the base game, three adventure packs, all four expansion packs and Rise of Kunark. All for <b><span style="color: #cc0000;">$39.99</span></b>! The problem I am having is that I already have everthing but <span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Rise of Kunark.</b></span><span style="color: #000000;"> To get Rise of Kunark I most pay $39.99. Also, you get a New Player Race - The Sarnak. However, you DO NOT get any additional Character Slots with this expansion packs. While someone that has been playing any of the Trials or has just the Base Game gets a much better deal for $39.99. Reminds me of Microsoft releasing Halo 2 but will only run on Vista Operating system. Now, is their an option to just get Rise of Kunark at a lesser price?</span></blockquote><p>Congratulations you Preordered Rise of kunark for 39.99 the same price you paid for EOF. The same price every other expansion sells. There is NO lesser price becuase that is HOW much this expansion costs. Thats right 39.99.</p><p>Since you already have the older expansions you get to buy RoK for 39.99 the same price everyone else gets it for. There is no shady deals or special conditions. Nobody who buys RoK will pay less or more. You get the expansion they same as everyone else for 39.99. If you see someone else playing RoK on release you rest easy knowing they paid the same 39.99 you did. </p><p>For new players who may have a hard time finding ANY older expansions in stores DONT worry. If you buy RoK for 39.99. Shockingly you will actually be able to play the game. Thats right when you buy the box as a new player and it says you can play this game guess what it means you can. You dont have to buy a game for 39.99 and only get to levels 1-20, you get the original game with it allowing you to level to 50, and DoF allowing to level to 60 and kos allowing you to level to 70 and eof allowing you to take advantage of the AA's advertised on the box. This means a new player does NOT have to pay 200+ dollars to start a game. </p><p>As much as some people will cry and moan how you should pay 200 dollars for a 3 year old game. Don't worry the peopel at soe have enough sense to realize if they tried to sell a game for 200+ dollars it would be a dead game in no time. Thank goodness the people in charge have this common sense. </p><p>AND guess what next year when the next expansion comes out and it is also an all in one compilation you can get that expansion for 39.99 as well. Amazingly that sense of entitlement people have they are due something because they have been playing longer will not effect this brillant and COMMON PRACTICE marketing habit that already exists in the game industry. So for 39.99 you to can play in the new fresh content and world of EQ2. </p>

[Krontak]

<p>Its funny how some see half full, other see half empty.  I interpreted what he said to be we should pay less than 39.99 since we've already paid for the other expansions.  I guess he sees it this way.  </p><p>Let say you purchase a car.  The car company creates a new twin-turbo engine that can be upgraded a year later.  The car owner really isn't required to purchase the twin-turbo but they decide to because they like the new features (content) it comes with.  Well, you're buddy John comes along and see you're car, and now the twin-turbo is a standard option.  So he pays the same price you paid origionally for your car with the enhanced features.  Now, you've both got the same product but you didn't have to buy the car a second time, only to upgrade the engine.</p>

[Cmos]

<p>lol... every expansion there is one of these threads... it's quite simple... if you don't want to pay $39.99 for the all in one RoK pack... <b>DON'T!!</b></p><p>You can easily wait until the next expansion and buy that all in one pack and get RoK for free... Now if you're whining that you payed for all the other packs at full price... well, thats on you... you did not need to buy them, you could have bought a PS2 game or a new pair of pants... or had taken you're signifigant out to dinner... You could have waited and bought them as an all in one pack with EoF or KoS... but YOU, not me, not SOE, or anyone else, choose to spend YOUR money on the products YOU purchased.</p><p>So, by you paying 39.99 for the RoK expansion that includes all other packages for FREE, you get to see and play the new content of the game before someone else who would wait until it is added as free content with the purchase of the next expansion...</p><p>To sum it up... noone is making you do anything... it is your choice... if you feel you are getting, as you so bluntly put it, "screwed" why are you even spending your money on it? If i went to by a product and it wasn't to my liking, or I felt I was being "screwed" in the transaction, I wouldn't buy it... would you??</p>

[Karlen]

It seems to me that SOE could make a lot of money selling a separate "RoK-only" pack that does not include anything besides the expansion and sells for $45.   People could buy that and know that they are not getting anything extra that they don't want.Personally, I wouldn't mind getting the full all-in-one pack so that I have something more recent than the original 10-CD pack in case I ever need to reinstall.

[Snowlily]

<i>because i did digital downloads on most of the expansions ... and now have pre ordered the new ROK.. i was wondering if the pets that came out with those expansions would be included? the ones i missed....*Hoping*</i>

[Leatherneck]

<cite>Snowlily wrote:</cite><blockquote><i>because i did digital downloads on most of the expansions ... and now have pre ordered the new ROK.. i was wondering if the pets that came out with those expansions would be included? the ones i missed....*Hoping*</i></blockquote>That's an interesting question. I'm guessing not, though.

[Saev]

<cite>Waleska wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have been a Player since March 2005 after the <b>Launch of Everquest II on 9.11.04</b>. I do not take this lightly. I do not think this is fair to any player and some of us flat out get screwed by Marketing of SOE. If I pre-order Rise of Kunark I receive the base game, three adventure packs, all four expansion packs and Rise of Kunark. All for <b><span style="color: #cc0000;">$39.99</span></b>! The problem I am having is that I already have everthing but <span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Rise of Kunark.</b></span><span style="color: #000000;"> To get Rise of Kunark I most pay $39.99. Also, you get a New Player Race - The Sarnak. However, you DO NOT get any additional Character Slots with this expansion packs. While someone that has been playing any of the Trials or has just the Base Game gets a much better deal for $39.99. Reminds me of Microsoft releasing Halo 2 but will only run on Vista Operating system. Now, is their an option to just get Rise of Kunark at a lesser price?</span></blockquote><p>Delete your current EQ2 install and buy the 'All-in-One' package. Start a new account. There, now you haven't paid for anything you didn't need. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Seriously, you enjoyed all (or most) of the content since you started didn't you? The poor newbie who is just starting this game hasn't had that benefit and will never know the joys of the old tradeskills, the shard runs, and group debt. Instead he gets, all-in-one, more content than he/she/it will probably ever see.</p><p>If it really is the $39.99 that's the problem, that's just over $3 a month for the year until the next expansion. Buy one less coffee.</p>

[Cathars]

Don't be glib.  Expansions cost $40.  Every single one of them.  Kunark for EQ1 cost $40.  The fact that you get all previous expansions AND adventure packs is just a bonus that hopefully brings in more new players.

[Jovie]

It helps them keep clean copies of the full game in stores. It is much harder to sell segmented expansions months down the line.

[Zagadka]

<cite>Gungo@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>Congratulations you Preordered Rise of kunark for 39.99 the same price you paid for EOF. The same price every other expansion sells. There is NO lesser price becuase that is HOW much this expansion costs. Thats right 39.99.</p><p>...</p></blockquote>Well, I agree - I don't mind paying the full price. BUTI do *really* wish that they would offer an extra character slot or two. I'm stuffed full, but I want to try out the new areas.In any case, we should remember that the 4 year vet rewards will be coming out around the same time, so we at least have that to look forward to.

[troodon]

<cite>Waleska wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I pre-order Rise of Kunark I receive the base game, three adventure packs, all four expansion packs and Rise of Kunark. All for <b><span style="color: #cc0000;">$39.99</span></b>! The problem I am having is that I already have everthing but <span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Rise of Kunark.</b></span><span style="color: #000000;"> To get Rise of Kunark I most pay $39.99. </span></blockquote><p>The expansion would cost $40 whether it came with the previous content or not, period.  Existing players (like you and me) aren't getting screwed, new players are simply getting an awesome deal.</p><p>And I don't understand your comparison to Halo 2 only operating on Vista.... at all.</p>

[Zagadka]

<cite>troodon wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>And I don't understand your comparison to Halo 2 only operating on Vista.... at all.</p></blockquote>That was a pretty stupid comparison. Besides, one reason Halo 2 is Vista-only is because it is DirectX 10.

[Melindhra]

Not all new players are getting an "awesome" deal.  I just started a month ago, and paid $39.99 to buy all of the existing expansions.  Now I'd have to pay another $39.99 just to get RoK.  If I knew this was going to happen, I probably would have kept playing to the end of my trial account and just waited.  Then I would have paid $39.99 once (instead of twice) to get everything.  Anyway, I'll have to do more research to see if this is actually the case.  I was just about to buy Splitpaw, but that's definitely on hold now.<cite>troodon wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Waleska wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I pre-order Rise of Kunark I receive the base game, three adventure packs, all four expansion packs and Rise of Kunark. All for <b><span style="color: #cc0000;">$39.99</span></b>! The problem I am having is that I already have everthing but <span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Rise of Kunark.</b></span><span style="color: #000000;"> To get Rise of Kunark I most pay $39.99. </span></blockquote><p>The expansion would cost $40 whether it came with the previous content or not, period.  Existing players (like you and me) aren't getting screwed, new players are simply getting an awesome deal.</p><p>And I don't understand your comparison to Halo 2 only operating on Vista.... at all.</p></blockquote>

[LordPazuzu]

<p>The search button is your friend...<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>It's pretty simple.  Rise of Kunark costs 39.99.  If you are a new player, you get all previous content for free.  If you are an existing player, registering your product key activates Kunark only since you already own the previous content.  You are not buying anything you already own.  You are buying Rise of Kunark.  The other content is just a bonus for new players.  For you they are fancy coasters.  It would cost you 39.99 whether or not those other game discs were included or not.  The inclusion of previous releases is utterly irrelevant to you.  It does not concern you and has no impact whatsoever of your Rise of Kunark purchase price or your game experience.  It affects new players only.  Not you.  Get it?</p><p>The expansion costs $39.99.  Period.  Other material is free to new players.  You are not a new player.  Should I repeat myself further?</p>

[Griffild]

<cite>LordPazuzu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The search button is your friend...<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>It's pretty simple.  Rise of Kunark costs 39.99.  If you are a new player, you get all previous content for free.  If you are an existing player, registering your product key activates Kunark only since you already own the previous content.  You are not buying anything you already own.  You are buying Rise of Kunark.  The other content is just a bonus for new players.  For you they are fancy coasters.  It would cost you 39.99 whether or not those other game discs were included or not.  The inclusion of previous releases is utterly irrelevant to you.  It does not concern you and has no impact whatsoever of your Rise of Kunark purchase price or your game experience.  It affects new players only.  Not you.  Get it?</p><p>The expansion costs $39.99.  Period.  Other material is free to new players.  You are not a new player.  Should I repeat myself further?</p></blockquote><p>What he said !. I don't get it why it is so difficult for some people to digest this ? it doesn't affect curent players only new players. So what's with all the fuss ?</p>

[Frain]

Well, it's realy very simple. They want to get new players into the game, and if they charge 39.99 for each expantion for new players, there wont come any. The expences for the old expantions have already been payed, no reason for new people to pay for them as well.It would only end in less people playing, and therefor less money every month.Yes, it's unfair. But there isn't any other way of doing it.

[Catsy]

<cite>Zagadka@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>That was a pretty stupid comparison. Besides, one reason Halo 2 is Vista-only is because it is DirectX 10.</blockquote>Which it doesn't even take advantage of. But I digress.

[JamesRay]

<p>Personally, I'd rather have new players not have to shell out hundreds of dollars for old content just to get caught up.</p><p>For those of you who are complaining, you get plenty of advantages against new players.  </p><p>1: you already have levels, AAs, special promotional items (such as dragons, copters, monkeys, carnivorous plants, etc) which new players DONT.2: the longer you play, the better the rewards you get...including VETERAN rewards.  My oldest account has the 10% reduction to broker fees and it is a HUGE advantage versus new players.The new content alone is what is marketably priced at $40.  That is the going rate for comparable items out there.  The fact they're throwing in old content for new players does not reduce that value.</p>

[phoenixshard]

Beats the heck out of paying $60 for a roster update like you do with Madden games. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[LaurnaRose Fauldorn]

<p>I have to agree with the OP guys.  I realize that because we have been playing since the dawn of time that we get the bonus of being able to play that content longer than those who are purchasing EQII for the first time with any expansion.  HOWEVER, it would be nice if the vetran players could get something a little extra with their purchase.  </p><p>My idea is this:  If you aren existing EQII customer with an active EQII account, by adding any expansion pack to your account you should get your choice of:</p><p>Additional character slot</p><p>Rare house item</p><p>Rare armor/weapon piece</p><p>TS item:  For instance; a charm slot item that summons a "merchant cart" that can store handcrafted items and work like a walking sales crate - a crafting station of your choice - a bag of resources giving 1k of any resources of your choice in stacks of 50 not to include rares and to be no-trade - a crafting tool offering + to durability or progress per tick - an all-in-one harvesting tool reducing harvesting time by 3s with + 25 to all harvesting skills (ect)</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<cite>Anobabylon@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have to agree with the OP guys.  I realize that because we have been playing since the dawn of time that we get the bonus of being able to play that content longer than those who are purchasing EQII for the first time with any expansion.  HOWEVER, it would be nice if the vetran players could get something a little extra with their purchase.  </p><p>My idea is this:  If you aren existing EQII customer with an active EQII account, by adding any expansion pack to your account you should get your choice of:</p><p>Additional character slot</p><p>Rare house item</p><p>Rare armor/weapon piece</p><p>TS item:  For instance; a charm slot item that summons a "merchant cart" that can store handcrafted items and work like a walking sales crate - a crafting station of your choice - a bag of resources giving 1k of any resources of your choice in stacks of 50 not to include rares and to be no-trade - a crafting tool offering + to durability or progress per tick - an all-in-one harvesting tool reducing harvesting time by 3s with + 25 to all harvesting skills (ect)</p></blockquote><p>/em does his best Homer Simpson impersonation.</p><p>"Mmmm... Unjustified sense of entitlement..."  /drool</p>

[[email protected]]

<cite>LordPazuzu wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Anobabylon@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have to agree with the OP guys.  I realize that because we have been playing since the dawn of time that we get the bonus of being able to play that content longer than those who are purchasing EQII for the first time with any expansion.  HOWEVER, it would be nice if the vetran players could get something a little extra with their purchase.  </p><p>My idea is this:  If you aren existing EQII customer with an active EQII account, by adding any expansion pack to your account you should get your choice of:</p><p>Additional character slot</p><p>Rare house item</p><p>Rare armor/weapon piece</p><p>TS item:  For instance; a charm slot item that summons a "merchant cart" that can store handcrafted items and work like a walking sales crate - a crafting station of your choice - a bag of resources giving 1k of any resources of your choice in stacks of 50 not to include rares and to be no-trade - a crafting tool offering + to durability or progress per tick - an all-in-one harvesting tool reducing harvesting time by 3s with + 25 to all harvesting skills (ect)</p></blockquote><p>/em does his best Homer Simpson impersonation.</p><p>"Mmmm... Unjustified sense of entitlement..."  /drool</p></blockquote><p>1 ) sounds like a whiny way of asking for more character slots.... although i think the should add an extra character slot as a vet reward. </p><p>2) Is alreayd given HENCE the SHINY collecting pet. By virtue of it being ONLY obtainable if you buy the expansion. </p><p>3) So let me get this straight you want a fabled item (rare/wpn armour) for buying an expansion? Um no. Ok now that you clairified the item i can see something close ot what your asking for as a reward. But really such items should not be given as expansions features. Imho if people TRULY wanted to reward long time playuers you would be arguing about Veteran rewards and NOT expansion purchase rewards. </p><p>also i don't know if this expansion is granting it also but on older expansions you got like 60-90 days extra time toward your veteran rewards if you owned an expansion already. </p>

[Waleska]

My point is this you should get a Bonus or maybe several Bonuses based on your time with EQII from SOE for being a loyal support of the game. Additional character slots, Rare house item,  Rare armor/weapon piece as <b>Anobabylon</b> has stated. NO, it is NOT a whiny way of asking for more character slots as <b>Phane</b> stated. <b>Melindhra </b>is a good example of the Marketing of SOE. Buy the EQII before the expansion pack "<b>Rise of Kunark"</b> then you have to buy the expansion pack itself. Your price has just doubled! I do not feel that I or anyone that agrees is asking for to much!!!!!

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Waleska wrote:</cite><blockquote>My point is this you should get a Bonus or maybe several Bonuses based on your time with EQII from SOE for being a loyal support of the game. Additional character slots, Rare house item,  Rare armor/weapon piece as <b>Anobabylon</b> has stated. NO, it is NOT a whiny way of asking for more character slots as <b>Phane</b> stated. <b>Melindhra </b>is a good example of the Marketing of SOE. Buy the EQII before the expansion pack "<b>Rise of Kunark"</b> then you have to buy the expansion pack itself. Your price has just doubled! I do not feel that I or anyone that agrees is asking for to much!!!!!</blockquote>Let me understand here - you want them to give you things based on your time playing EQII correct? How is this any different then the current Veteran Rewards that are give to accounts based on the time they have paid for and played the game? Just got my 4 year bonus, one of them being a house item that reduces the weekly rent on my house in game, another being enhancingright clicks for gaining xp in adventuring and in trade skilling. Seems exactly the same except you are asking for items like character slots, etc. What you are aksing for is already implemented.

[Erickson]

<p>Every MMO, EVERY MMO has used this tactic with expansion in order to get new players into the game.  Ulitma Online, the first true graphic MMO did it, EQ1 did it, DAoC did it, I could go on.. EVERY MMO does this.</p><p>People new to this type of game simply need to understand it's about revenue.  Sony needs to make money off these games in order to bring us new and better content, in order to PAY the people who make these game a PREMIUM wage to ensure high quality content.  Don't look at this like you're getting ripped off, look at it as if you're investing in your game world by attracting new players and opening the door for new content.</p>

[skinandbones]

<cite>Melindhra wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not all new players are getting an "awesome" deal.  I just started a month ago, and paid $39.99 to buy all of the existing expansions.  Now I'd have to pay another $39.99 just to get RoK.  If I knew this was going to happen, I probably would have kept playing to the end of my trial account and just waited.  Then I would have paid $39.99 once (instead of twice) to get everything.  Anyway, I'll have to do more research to see if this is actually the case.  I was just about to buy Splitpaw, but that's definitely on hold now.</blockquote>That is your own fault for buying it.  ROK was announced a few months before it came out that it came with every expansion pack that was currently out.  Next time look before you leap.  I know alot of people posted false info saying ROK is not coming with all the old expasions.  All you had to do was look at EBgames or the sony store it even listed it as it came with all the old ones. 

[Taksor]

Being a returning player after a 2 year break -- the All-In-One REALLY sold me on coming back...  I used to raid back when there was only 1 Adventure pack, and I paid 7.99 to play it at the time.  Do I feel cheated that I have to "pay again" for that 1 adventure pack? Not at all.  I'm coming back to this game and paying for the NEW content that I didn't have before.  If I had to go to Best Buy or an online retailer like gogamer and buy each expansion for 19.99 each I probably Would NOT come back and would just go play Civ IV for a while.Good job SOE on grabbing all those returning players like myself with this marketing strategy.If you really think about it 39.99 is pretty standard if not cheaper for a brand new game with say ~50 hours of content in it.  In an MMO, and especially a huge expansion like RoK you're going to get way more than 50 hours worth.On another topic,I always like to say that in a fair amount of MMO's we're paying not only for the content but for the ability to collaborate and form virtual communities.  EQ2 has a great community.  If you've ever played those FREE FOREVER Korean-turned-English knockoff games you'll know what I mean by poor community.  Who doesn't love logging in and saying "Hi all!" to a receptive guild chat?Anyways, just my input from an old eq2 player when darathar and getting prismatic weapons was the shiznit!

[LordPazuzu]

<cite>Leatherneck wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Snowlily wrote:</cite><blockquote><i>because i did digital downloads on most of the expansions ... and now have pre ordered the new ROK.. i was wondering if the pets that came out with those expansions would be included? the ones i missed....*Hoping*</i></blockquote>That's an interesting question. I'm guessing not, though.</blockquote>YES! You get it all! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Lucifonz]

<p>Its a great deal for me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Cost me about £22 to get it digitally as i couldnt be bothered to wait for Play.com (£15) and their delivery near the Xmas time which would mean waiting until Thursday to play the game!</p><p>But here in the UK most shops have the game for £15-£20. Thats the exact same price as any other MMO expansion however RoK comes with every other EQ2 expansion etc so far. Imo either way its good value for money.</p>

[bluefish]

<cite>Melindhra wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not all new players are getting an "awesome" deal.  I just started a month ago, and paid $39.99 to buy all of the existing expansions.  Now I'd have to pay another $39.99 just to get RoK.  If I knew this was going to happen, I probably would have kept playing to the end of my trial account and just waited.  Then I would have paid $39.99 once (instead of twice) to get everything.  Anyway, I'll have to do more research to see if this is actually the case.  I was just about to buy Splitpaw, but that's definitely on hold now.<cite>troodon wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Waleska wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I pre-order Rise of Kunark I receive the base game, three adventure packs, all four expansion packs and Rise of Kunark. All for <b><span style="color: #cc0000;">$39.99</span></b>! The problem I am having is that I already have everthing but <span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Rise of Kunark.</b></span><span style="color: #000000;"> To get Rise of Kunark I most pay $39.99. </span></blockquote><p>The expansion would cost $40 whether it came with the previous content or not, period.  Existing players (like you and me) aren't getting screwed, new players are simply getting an awesome deal.</p><p>And I don't understand your comparison to Halo 2 only operating on Vista.... at all.</p></blockquote></blockquote>HmmmmBase game = $40.001st Exp       = $40.002nd Exp      = $40.003rd Exp       = $40.004th Exp       = $40.00total            = $200.00You paid $40.00 for base game and three exp + another $40.00 for new exp total            =$80.00so you still think you didn't get an awesome deal???is it just me or is there something wrong with this picture?I don't know, but paying $80.00 instead of $200.00 seems pretty sweet to me

[LordPazuzu]

<p>Or just $40 for everything.  It's supposed to be a sweet deal.</p><p>Those previous releases diminished in value over time.  Charging a new player full price for all of them would be commercial suicide.</p><p>Paying $40 right before the expansion and having to pay again for the expansion...it's not that you didn't get a great deal, it's that you were simply being an uninformed consumer.</p>

[ke'la]

<cite>bluefish wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Melindhra wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not all new players are getting an "awesome" deal.  I just started a month ago, and paid $39.99 to buy all of the existing expansions.  Now I'd have to pay another $39.99 just to get RoK.  If I knew this was going to happen, I probably would have kept playing to the end of my trial account and just waited.  Then I would have paid $39.99 once (instead of twice) to get everything.  Anyway, I'll have to do more research to see if this is actually the case.  I was just about to buy Splitpaw, but that's definitely on hold now.<cite>troodon wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Waleska wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I pre-order Rise of Kunark I receive the base game, three adventure packs, all four expansion packs and Rise of Kunark. All for <b><span style="color: #cc0000;">$39.99</span></b>! The problem I am having is that I already have everthing but <span style="color: #0000ff;"><b>Rise of Kunark.</b></span><span style="color: #000000;"> To get Rise of Kunark I most pay $39.99. </span></blockquote><p>The expansion would cost $40 whether it came with the previous content or not, period.  Existing players (like you and me) aren't getting screwed, new players are simply getting an awesome deal.</p><p>And I don't understand your comparison to Halo 2 only operating on Vista.... at all.</p></blockquote></blockquote>HmmmmBase game = $40.001st Exp       = $40.002nd Exp      = $40.003rd Exp       = $40.004th Exp       = $40.00total            = $200.00You paid $40.00 for base game and three exp + another $40.00 for new exp total            =$80.00so you still think you didn't get an awesome deal???is it just me or is there something wrong with this picture?I don't know, but paying $80.00 instead of $200.00 seems pretty sweet to me</blockquote><p>Accually launch prices are:</p><p>EQ2 Classic : $50 or $80 for Collector'sDoF : $30 or ~$5 per month of Dev timeKoS : $30 or ~$5 per month of Dev timeEoF : $40 or ~$3.33 per month of Dev timeRoK : $40 or ~$3.33 per month of Dev time</p><p>Being as how we are paying almost 2 dollars less per month of Development time I think that RoK is a very good VALUE. </p><p>What you got for your nearly $200.00 is 3 years of playtime and experiance that a new player does not get. You also get nearly Immediate Access to 100% of the content of the expaintion while the new player gets about 20% of the expaintion then has to spend the next month or so atleast in the "old world" befor getting to experiance the rest of the expaintion.</p>

[skinandbones]

I am still amazed people post this same BS when a new expansion comes out.