Bug: Using a PVP token puts you into combat

[Bozidar]

<p>seriously, i'm not kidding.</p><p>It seems that the extra 5 faction with the Lucanic Knights is some sort of heal/buff that registers as engaging my target in pvp.</p>

[Mildavyn]

<p>Don't try to kill people with tokens then? I use my swords personally...</p><p>While this shouldn't really happen... who cares?</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Paikis@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Don't try to kill people with tokens then? I use my swords personally...</p><p>While this shouldn't really happen... who cares?</p></blockquote><p>Well.. it got me killed, so I care?</p><p>Yeah, i'm going to go ahead with that one.</p>

[Mildavyn]

<p>That works for me!</p><p>Atleast you know not to do it again! I doubt it'll get fixed though.</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Paikis@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Don't try to kill people with tokens then? I use my swords personally...</p><p>While this shouldn't really happen... who cares?</p></blockquote><p>Well.. it got me killed, so I care?</p><p>Yeah, i'm going to go ahead with that one.</p></blockquote>I know its a live bug, and you should probably also have seen mentions of it on the forums back when they made everything put you in combat.What I wanna know, out of curiosity, how did it get you killed? Simply being put in combat is not a death warrant by itself. Youhad to do some other things to get you killed. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Roald]

<p>After the stealth change that made basically any action put you into combat, Im to scared to do anything but run the other way. I remember a dev saying in my thread that they were going to change it in the next hotfix, but did they? Does sprint/horse/stealth/cure etc still put you in combat?</p><p>On a side note, were you using tokens while being chased by qs? That could go in the, 'you know your a twink when'... thread lol.</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>After the stealth change that made basically any action put you into combat, Im to scared to do anything but run the other way. I remember a dev saying in my thread that they were going to change it in the next hotfix, but did they? Does sprint/horse/stealth/cure etc still put you in combat?</p><p>On a side note, were you using tokens while being chased by qs? That could go in the, 'you know your a twink when'... thread lol.</p></blockquote>horses and cures do, normally I dont go invis/stealth when chased so I have no idea about that one. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />

[Bozidar]

<cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know its a live bug, and you should probably also have seen mentions of it on the forums back when they made everything put you in combat.What I wanna know, out of curiosity, how did it get you killed? Simply being put in combat is not a death warrant by itself. Youhad to do some other things to get you killed. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Well, i had already killed a pally and a ranger in SH.  I had headed up to the entrance of SH (where they were), to head out and see who else might be around.  Was on my bard at the time, fyi.</p><p>So they're standing there, dropping immunity, and they kinda suck -- so they had no shot to kill me.  So.. being the pompous twit that I am.. i start using their tokens in front of them as a taunting gesture.  They attack.  I /laugh at them trying to 2v1 me again, and use a token again.. and get put into combat.</p><p>But i didn't KNOW i was in combat.  I let them beat me down a little, then tried to zone out.. oops.  so i stealthed up and did my best Houdini.. but to no avail.</p><p>Had i known that Lucanic Knight Insignia of all things put me into combat.. i would have just killed them again.</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>After the stealth change that made basically any action put you into combat, Im to scared to do anything but run the other way. I remember a dev saying in my thread that they were going to change it in the next hotfix, but did they? Does sprint/horse/stealth/cure etc still put you in combat?</p><p>On a side note, were you using tokens while being chased by qs? That could go in the, 'you know your a twink when'... thread lol.</p></blockquote>lol.. it was while they were hitting me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Norrsken]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know its a live bug, and you should probably also have seen mentions of it on the forums back when they made everything put you in combat.What I wanna know, out of curiosity, how did it get you killed? Simply being put in combat is not a death warrant by itself. Youhad to do some other things to get you killed. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Well, i had already killed a pally and a ranger in SH.  I had headed up to the entrance of SH (where they were), to head out and see who else might be around.  Was on my bard at the time, fyi.</p><p>So they're standing there, dropping immunity, and they kinda suck -- so they had no shot to kill me.  So.. being the pompous twit that I am.. i start using their tokens in front of them as a taunting gesture.  They attack.  I /laugh at them trying to 2v1 me again, and use a token again.. and get put into combat.</p><p>But i didn't KNOW i was in combat.  I let them beat me down a little, then tried to zone out.. oops.  so i stealthed up and did my best Houdini.. but to no avail.</p><p>Had i known that Lucanic Knight Insignia of all things put me into combat.. i would have just killed them again.</p></blockquote>Hehe, yeah, I bet. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />that explains it though.

[Bloodfa]

<p><makes mental note to stalk Boz at Stormhold></p><p>Man, I hate to say it, but that's funny.  +5 Faction flag.  [Removed for Content]. </p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><makes mental note to stalk Boz at Stormhold></p><p>Man, I hate to say it, but that's funny.  +5 Faction flag.  [I cannot control my vocabulary]. </p></blockquote>yeah.. that was kinda funny in retrospect.  but finding out that a stupid token puts you in combat -- not funny

[Snowlywhite]

same crap, but was more lucky...so I pew pew there and at a certain point the normal q group comes in. While liking pvp, I hate suicide, and countin' a 6vs1(I was the 1:p) I evac.Was chewing bubble gum at the entrance, while not zoning out... waiting for someone to make a mistake. I cast a token to pass time, one of their guys got back to entrance, prolly tryin' to bait me. I try to zone out... I'm in combat. Funny part is that the guy had no clue about that, so I sit there, chew bubble gum another 30 secs. and zone out:p

[convict]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know its a live bug, and you should probably also have seen mentions of it on the forums back when they made everything put you in combat.What I wanna know, out of curiosity, how did it get you killed? Simply being put in combat is not a death warrant by itself. Youhad to do some other things to get you killed. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Well, i had already killed a pally and a ranger in SH.  I had headed up to the entrance of SH (where they were), to head out and see who else might be around.  Was on my bard at the time, fyi.</p><p>So they're standing there, dropping immunity, and they kinda suck -- so they had no shot to kill me.  So.. being the pompous twit that I am..<span style="color: #ff0000;"><b> i start using their tokens in front of them as a taunting gesture.</b></span>  They attack.  I <b><span style="color: #ff0000;">/laugh</span></b> at them trying to 2v1 me again, and use a token again.. and get put into combat.</p><p>But i didn't KNOW i was in combat.  I let them beat me down a little, then tried to zone out.. oops.  so i stealthed up and did my best Houdini.. but to no avail.</p><p>Had i known that Lucanic Knight Insignia of all things put me into combat.. i would have just killed them again.</p></blockquote>One of those kinda people huh? [Removed for Content], thats funny.. Glad to see it happened, and when it happened..

[Bozidar]

<cite>convict wrote:</cite><blockquote>One of those kinda people huh? [Removed for Content], thats funny.. Glad to see it happened, and when it happened..</blockquote><p>I don't usually do stuff like that, but they zerged me after i killed them.  then they grouped and came at me.  so i thought a little taunting was in order, these weren't lvl 10's in island gear <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />  </p><p>Needless to say, they didn't get a lot done in stormhold after that token put me into combat <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />  (i hate having to grief people)</p>

[Dh]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>convict wrote:</cite><blockquote>One of those kinda people huh? [Removed for Content], thats funny.. Glad to see it happened, and when it happened..</blockquote><p>I don't usually do stuff like that, but they zerged me after i killed them.  then they grouped and came at me.  so i thought a little taunting was in order, these were lvl 10's in island gear <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />  </p><p>Needless to say, they didn't get a lot done in stormhold after that token put me into combat <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />  (i hate having to grief people)</p></blockquote>This just in: Level locker admits to griefing new players in newb island gear over and over possibly making them quit the game.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Dhye@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>convict wrote:</cite><blockquote>One of those kinda people huh? [Removed for Content], thats funny.. Glad to see it happened, and when it happened..</blockquote><p>I don't usually do stuff like that, but they zerged me after i killed them.  then they grouped and came at me.  so i thought a little taunting was in order, these were lvl 10's in island gear <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Needless to say, they didn't get a lot done in stormhold after that token put me into combat <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /> (i hate having to grief people)</p></blockquote>This just in: Level locker admits to griefing new players in newb island gear over and over possibly making them quit the game.</blockquote>This just in: people make typos and that toon isn't locked.. and people make stupid assumptions on the internet!

[Tae]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>This just in: people make typos and that toon isn't locked.. and people make stupid assumptions on the internet!</blockquote>Oh shut up Bozidar, you have a new level 20 character in your signiture every few weeks, with tons and tons of kills and barely any deaths. Most people haven't noticed this because you don't use level 60 tokens, you gather them to buy PvP armour. Anyone who's low level using tokens as they're getting attacked <i>deserves</i> to be put in combat. As for you "having to grief" people comment... it's not their fault you got put into combat. You didn't HAVE to do anything.

[Kujamo]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>convict wrote:</cite><blockquote>One of those kinda people huh? [Removed for Content], thats funny.. Glad to see it happened, and when it happened..</blockquote><p>I don't usually do stuff like that, but they zerged me after i killed them.  then they grouped and came at me.  so i thought a little taunting was in order, these weren't lvl 10's in island gear <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" />  </p><p>Needless to say, they didn't get a lot done in stormhold after that token put me into combat <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" width="15" height="15" />  (i hate having to grief people)</p></blockquote>Meh, Boz sucks =)

[Fluffypaws]

that'll teach ya not to use tokens while being attacked then wont it. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Bozidar]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>This just in: people make typos and that toon isn't locked.. and people make stupid assumptions on the internet!</blockquote>Oh shut up Bozidar, you have a new level 20 character in your signiture every few weeks, with tons and tons of kills and barely any deaths.Most people haven't noticed this because you don't use level 60 tokens, you gather them to buy PvP armour. Anyone who's low level using tokens as they're getting attacked <i>deserves</i> to be put in combat.As for you "having to grief" people comment... it's not their fault you got put into combat. You didn't HAVE to do anything.</blockquote><p>yeah, sorry.. i just TRY and TRY to play the game you'd rather me play, but i just can't get around to it.</p><p>gosh darn it.. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I failed at EQ2-the-way-Taear-says-so</p><p>and i only have 2 toons at 20.. =P</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Fluffypaws@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>that'll teach ya not to use tokens while being attacked then wont it. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>hehe, true enough.  but maybe this will let the other folks out there know that it puts ya in combat, and that it's totally stupidly broken..