Yelinak?...... King Thormak? Where or where have those two gone?

[Senliten]

Okay quick question. Pretty much Im curious as to the happenings and whereabouts of these two Lord Yelinak (Dragon Leader lord for the Claws of Veeshan faction in Eq) and King Thormak(x) (Giant King / Overlord in the one zone *name slips me currently* which is off the east waste zone area leading into this city. faction if im not mistaken was Krozmek or Krozmik giants)Both were imo two sub-major lore storylnie parts of Eq lore and both were part of a quest back in the velious era for GiantBane and DragonBane spells for wizards... Now question in being. Do these two still exist anywhere in Eq2 and are they still up to there own doings/rulings. Would love to find out whats gonig on with Yelinak more than likely and how he is doing since the whole shattering. I know wushni is alvie still from seeing some lore on KoS or EoF and such. But it leaves me to wonder about these two others also. Also is skyshrine let alone cobalt scar anywhere to be found as of yet? would like to go hang with my favorite Wyverns and see if i can quad then in EQ2 like you can in EQ =P

[Kamimura]

<cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also is skyshrine let alone cobalt scar anywhere to be found as of yet? would like to go hang with my favorite Wyverns and see if i can quad then in EQ2 like you can in EQ =P</blockquote>No, since we have not seen anything of Velious yet. I don't believe there is any information about those two about either, yet.

[Cusashorn]

I wouldn't be surprised if King Tornax is dead by now. Yelinak and the rest of the Claws of Veeshan, along with the rest of Velious itself, are still shrouded in mystery because there's been no mention of them yet.

[Senliten]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>I wouldn't be surprised if King Tornax is dead by now. Yelinak and the rest of the Claws of Veeshan, along with the rest of Velious itself, are still shrouded in mystery because there's been no mention of them yet.</blockquote>=( i would of at least thoguht since the whole Veeshan lore quest and what not youd think one slip or mention of the followers of her would at least past on by.. I mean Wunshi did and he was part of Velious content =/ let alone that Velious expansion itself if im not mistaken.. well i could be mistaken if the Old World Zone he is in. Is on Kunark and not Velious but /shrug Id be amazed of King Tornax is dead by now.. but Yelinak id be going straight to hang with em if he ever makes an appearance... Wub my giantbane i get from em as a reward but hehe.. lets hope Bane Spells also dont go into play if velious or the rest of it is ever found.Dear god hopes the hot molten magma of lavastorm and all and what happend during that whole luclin blowing up did not make the ice and such on velious melt =/

[Mirander_1]

I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?

[Senliten]

<cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Nah not Yelinak. if The Sleeper is waking up back from its nap in Eq1 this expansion release then pretty mcuh SoE would need to then nerf the Bane quest's let alone get rid of em =/ Pretty much im still wondering how the sleeper is wakening again in the next expansion and i doubt it was due to Meldraith causing alot of ruckus building his flying combat fortress =/

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Yeah that's what happened in the awakening event, but for loot and quest reasons, they didn't kill him off permanently.

[Senliten]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Yeah that's what happened in the awakening event, but for loot and quest reasons, they didn't kill him off permanently.</blockquote>Hehe lets jsut hope Sleepy doesn't get a second chance let alone maybe its a third but it more than likely is a second chance.... At kicking Yelinak out of commission for good. I mean they do that in the SoF expansion for Eq.. id be pretty much ticked off. due to no one can then get the bane spell quests done (if anyone dose them anymore for the lore and spell itself.) but pretty much right now in skyshrine and cobalt scar on Eq1 alot of odd things are being flavor texted there.. lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so

[Gukkor2]

Based on what little evidence is available, I'd say they're both dead by EQ2's time.  Yelinak was killed by Kerafyrm when the latter awakened (and I'm pretty sure that event translates into EQ2's history unaltered), while Tormax probably died of natural causes long ago if he wasn't killed by someone/thing else.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote>lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so</blockquote>You mean those guys in Skyshrine are *STILL* saying that after 6 years?

[Senliten]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote>lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so</blockquote>You mean those guys in Skyshrine are *STILL* saying that after 6 years?</blockquote>To be honest im not sure if its because the next expansion for Eq is involving the sleeper very heavily that it was thrown in there again. or they have been broken for 6 years. But there some saying it currently fromt he looks of it just need to stay in thee long enough and wander around to get one to catch one say it

[Themaginator]

<cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Yeah that's what happened in the awakening event, but for loot and quest reasons, they didn't kill him off permanently.</blockquote>Hehe lets jsut hope Sleepy doesn't get a second chance let alone maybe its a third but it more than likely is a second chance.... At kicking Yelinak out of commission for good. I mean they do that in the SoF expansion for Eq.. id be pretty much ticked off. due to no one can then get the bane spell quests done (if anyone dose them anymore for the lore and spell itself.) but pretty much right now in skyshrine and cobalt scar on Eq1 alot of odd things are being flavor texted there.. lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so</blockquote>when something dies in game its not dead for good EVER its just LORE wise that Yelinak is perma dead

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Yeah that's what happened in the awakening event, but for loot and quest reasons, they didn't kill him off permanently.</blockquote>Hehe lets jsut hope Sleepy doesn't get a second chance let alone maybe its a third but it more than likely is a second chance.... At kicking Yelinak out of commission for good. I mean they do that in the SoF expansion for Eq.. id be pretty much ticked off. due to no one can then get the bane spell quests done (if anyone dose them anymore for the lore and spell itself.) but pretty much right now in skyshrine and cobalt scar on Eq1 alot of odd things are being flavor texted there.. lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so</blockquote>when something dies in game its not dead for good EVER its just LORE wise that Yelinak is perma dead </blockquote><p>The Warders who were keeping Kerafyrm asleep did.</p><p>And after the majority of the servers woke him up, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect it. Yelinak was still down there, acknowledged as the ruler of the city.</p>

[Vyrance]

im sure theyll still have Yelinak alive in game.  if he was dead, i dont see Skyshrine surviving.  as far as Tormax, hes most likely dead, but im sure Kael Drakkel is flourishing.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Vyrance wrote:</cite><blockquote>im sure theyll still have Yelinak alive in game.  if he was dead, i dont see Skyshrine surviving.  as far as Tormax, hes most likely dead, but im sure Kael Drakkel is flourishing.</blockquote>Indeed. They never really gave any hint or semblance of a clue as to how long giants can live. I would think they don't live for too long. Certainly not 500 years.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Yeah that's what happened in the awakening event, but for loot and quest reasons, they didn't kill him off permanently.</blockquote>Hehe lets jsut hope Sleepy doesn't get a second chance let alone maybe its a third but it more than likely is a second chance.... At kicking Yelinak out of commission for good. I mean they do that in the SoF expansion for Eq.. id be pretty much ticked off. due to no one can then get the bane spell quests done (if anyone dose them anymore for the lore and spell itself.) but pretty much right now in skyshrine and cobalt scar on Eq1 alot of odd things are being flavor texted there.. lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so</blockquote>when something dies in game its not dead for good EVER its just LORE wise that Yelinak is perma dead </blockquote><p>The Warders who were keeping Kerafyrm asleep did.</p><p>And after the majority of the servers woke him up, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect it. Yelinak was still down there, acknowledged as the ruler of the city.</p></blockquote>Did they revamp the zone lore-wise?  I thought they just changed the loot tables after Kerafyrm woke.

[Noaani]

<p>I have no idea if/how this could be relavent, but I thought it was intresting at the very least.</p><p>We all know t hat the KoS dragons drop Talismen. Pantrilla drops Pantrilla's Talisman, Varksakin drops Varksakin's Talisman, Harla Dar has one, Talendor and Gorenaire drop theres. The interesting part is that Yelinak's Talisman drops from... Tarinax.</p><p>Why? no idea, i'll leave it to you guys to decide if it means anything.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Yeah that's what happened in the awakening event, but for loot and quest reasons, they didn't kill him off permanently.</blockquote>Hehe lets jsut hope Sleepy doesn't get a second chance let alone maybe its a third but it more than likely is a second chance.... At kicking Yelinak out of commission for good. I mean they do that in the SoF expansion for Eq.. id be pretty much ticked off. due to no one can then get the bane spell quests done (if anyone dose them anymore for the lore and spell itself.) but pretty much right now in skyshrine and cobalt scar on Eq1 alot of odd things are being flavor texted there.. lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so</blockquote>when something dies in game its not dead for good EVER its just LORE wise that Yelinak is perma dead </blockquote><p>The Warders who were keeping Kerafyrm asleep did.</p><p>And after the majority of the servers woke him up, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect it. Yelinak was still down there, acknowledged as the ruler of the city.</p></blockquote>Did they revamp the zone lore-wise?  I thought they just changed the loot tables after Kerafyrm woke.</blockquote><p>They did. After the Skyshrine and Sleeper's Tomb zones were revamped, Skyshrine was changed to reflect the awakening of Kerafyrm, with the introduction of 4 Crusader dragons who would be entasked with taking over the jobs of the 4 warders who were killed, and keep Kerafyrm asleep again.</p><p>Kerafyrm's lair was changed and became the new stomping grounds for Kerafyrm's generals who followed him before he was put to sleep. Now that he had returned, they can come out of hiding and exile and plot to carry out his plans.</p>

[Nocturnal Aby]

Out of curiosity, who were the four generals in EQ?

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Nocturnal Abyss wrote:</cite><blockquote>Out of curiosity, who were the four generals in EQ?</blockquote><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10501" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kildrukaun</a></p><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10498" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tjudawos</a></p><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10499" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vyskudra</a></p><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=10500" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zeixshi'Kar</a></p><p>Kildrukaun was Kerafyrm's right hand man, err, Dragon, when he was a general in for the armies of the Claws of Veeshan. Loyal through the end, these four dragons believed in Kerafyrm's beliefs, and were exiled from dragon society for following Kerafyrm when he tried to overthrow society.</p>

[DreamerClou]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Senliten wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought Ol' Sleepy killed Yelinak when he's awakened.  Or was that someone else?</blockquote>Yeah that's what happened in the awakening event, but for loot and quest reasons, they didn't kill him off permanently.</blockquote>Hehe lets jsut hope Sleepy doesn't get a second chance let alone maybe its a third but it more than likely is a second chance.... At kicking Yelinak out of commission for good. I mean they do that in the SoF expansion for Eq.. id be pretty much ticked off. due to no one can then get the bane spell quests done (if anyone dose them anymore for the lore and spell itself.) but pretty much right now in skyshrine and cobalt scar on Eq1 alot of odd things are being flavor texted there.. lots of drakes saying leave the skyshrine and such for the sleeper's wakening is near... But heh .... guess i need to get both expansions like i said i would.. $80 bucks or so down the tubes there =/... just to find out if there is another awakening event or so</blockquote>when something dies in game its not dead for good EVER its just LORE wise that Yelinak is perma dead </blockquote><p>The Warders who were keeping Kerafyrm asleep did.</p><p>And after the majority of the servers woke him up, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect it. Yelinak was still down there, acknowledged as the ruler of the city.</p></blockquote>Did they revamp the zone lore-wise?  I thought they just changed the loot tables after Kerafyrm woke.</blockquote><p>They did. After the Skyshrine and Sleeper's Tomb zones were revamped, Skyshrine was changed to reflect the awakening of Kerafyrm, <span style="color: #ff3300;">with the introduction of 4 Crusader dragons who would be entasked with taking over the jobs of the 4 warders who were killed, and keep Kerafyrm asleep again.</span></p><p>Kerafyrm's lair was changed and became the new stomping grounds for Kerafyrm's generals who followed him before he was put to sleep. Now that he had returned, they can come out of hiding and exile and plot to carry out his plans.</p></blockquote>Wait, these new crusader dragons were put in the game after the Sleeper was awaken to do what?  If I understand your sentence it says that the new crusaders dragons were put in the game to keep Kerafyrm asleep after he was already awaken.  /confused

[Cusashorn]

Those crusaders were the new 4 warders. They would have to spend eternity keeping him under the same spell that put him to sleep in the first place, IF they ever managed to capture him again.

[DreamerClou]

Ah gotcha, I understand now

[MoD1133]

the 4 crusaders were children of the 4 warders. the 4 warders were dragons of PURE elements and were considered to be the strongest of the dragons in those days. They had volunteered to keep kerafyrm sleeping in an enchantment and were ordered to breed with dragons of elements that were completely identical to their own before they would be locked inside the sleepers tomb warding the enchantment that kept kerafyrm sleeping. the 4 crusaders were specifically bred to keep the powerful elemental wards on kerafyrms enchantment. They would have been the new warders when their time came but since kerafyrm got awakened they had to change their roles into the 4 crusaders, the 4 dragons intent on recapturing kerafyrm and putting him back to sleep.