There's nobody to fight!

[IcterusGalbula]

<p>I was addicted to EverQuest 2 in the late spring and early summer.  Yesterday I played for perhaps the first time in 3 months.  (I had been too busy and rather burned out recently.)</p><p>Anyway, I finally level-locked my Level 42 warden on the Vox server yesterday.  He had never been level-locked before.  I finally had to admit that I could not compete against many of the NPC or in PVP without level-locking.  </p><p>I had been spending all of my time looking for rares and leveling far too quickly from killing 20 kobolds here and 20 kobolds there just trying to finish a single quest.</p><p>This warden is my first character to make it beyond a trivial level.  As a result my warden did not know until level 38 how important AA is.  He now has 35 AA.</p><p>In the past I've heard a lot of people talk about how the Vox server is dead.  "I cannot find anybody to fight!" they cry.  I've always laughed at that because I never had a problem finding somebody to fight; then again I almost never went looking for a fight.  The fights always came to me.</p><p>If I wanted to find a fight, I just had to go to:</p><p>1. The Caves in Antonica</p><p>2. The TS griffon platform in Antonica</p><p>3. The Spires in Antonica</p><p>4. The TS dock</p><p>5. The Enchanted Lands dock</p><p>6. Dark Light Woods</p><p>7. The Orcish Wastes (Zek)</p><p>8. Ferrott (sp? ... The Swamp) </p><p>In my mind, if somebody could not find a fight it was because they were not looking very hard.</p><p>So yesterday, I'm playing and decide I should try completing a quest in the Commonlands.  My Warden had not been to the Commonlands except to get a leaf from the Druid Rings in that zone so he could use that portal.</p><p>Yesterday evening my solo warden explored virtually all of the Commonlands, staying away from the Freeport gates, but dinging the discovered areas that give AA and working on the quest in mind.  I must have spent 40 minutes or more in the Commonlands and was never attacked.  I killed a guard at the Cross-roads "just to watch him die" as Johnny Cash might have said.  The fight took a really long time (remember I don't have a lot of AA), but no Freeporters showed up to save him.</p><p>I also made several trips to the Spires in Antonica, but was never attacked.</p><p>I spent maybe 1-2 hours or more in the Steamfont Mountains and was never attacked.</p><p>Then I spent 1-2 hours in Ferrott (sp? - The Swamp).  Finally I was attacked.  Indeed I died twice and killed one player.  I'd forgotten a little about how to play over the last three months or I should have killed all 3 players who attacked me.  (My warden is a Hunter with all Mastercrafted and Adept 3 / Master gear.  I just really really, really need AA and some Tier 5 adornments to make myself a really good fighter).</p><p>I was shocked at not being attacked for so long and thought maybe something major had changed about the game in the last few months.  Perhaps not.  </p><p>Maybe there just aren't a lot of level 40 toons in the game.  Maybe most people are either teens or 70s.  In fact, before I left Kelethin yesterday I did a "/who" search.  There were 29 people located.  Three were anonymous, like myself.  None of the other 26 toons was higher than level 18.</p><p>By level-locking and picking up AA that I should have obtained a long time ago I at least feel that my warden is back to making progress.  It had stopped being fun having to spend all my time harvesting rares and crafting just to keep my toon poorly-to-adequately equipped because he was leveling too quickly attempting to finish 2 quests.</p>

[Myxzptlk]

Welcome back to Vox. The title of this post is why I and many others that played on Vox now play on Nagafen.

[q149]

Vox is dead.Reroll on Naggy

[Croniccaster]

         Vox is dead huh....? Gee thats strange. Cause I play on Vox and I raided, grouped, and pvp'ed all weekend. Hell I logged in yesterday just to check the broker and do a couple things, and ended up going with a group and clearing Crypt of Valdoon in lopping. Now, I play T7 so can't really speak much for the other tiers, but I almost never have trouble finding something to do.       The negative Vox responses are getting a little old. Those of you that rolled on another server, good for you. Hope you're having fun. Thats what the game's all about. Fact is, I play on Vox most every day. If you don't then you don't really know what you're talking about. Fact is, Vox doe's need more people as myself and others have stated. But to keep telling people its dead or a ghost town is BS. I'll say it one more time, Vox has a good mix of pve and pvp. If, WHEN we get more good people to join it could be the best server of this type period. If you don't have accurate up to date knowledge of Vox, please leave the response's to those that do.        Now I don't play on Naggy. But I've read MANY threads with people complaining about Naggy being, lets run down the list here, Laggy/ Overpopulated/ a constant gank fest. I'll stop there but I'm sure I could find more complaints if I took the time to look. You guys getting the point? Every server has its own issues that need to be worked on. How's about next time someone asks a question about Naggy I respond with "Sure, roll on Naggy if you want your game to look like a slide show, you like not being able to do any quests because the mobs and named are camped 24/7, and you like getting ganked by groups of twinks every time you stick your head out of the city". Well I won't do that because I DON'T PLAY ON YOUR SERVER. And no, just because you played here in the past, that doesn't mean you know what Vox is like now. Even from one day to the next.     To the OP. We do need more good people on Vox, but its not as bad as some would have everyone believe. Seems like I hit a few slow spots in the 40/50 range as well. Sometimes I log in during the week and its slow as well. Hell, enjoy the break while you can. Once you hit 60/62 you're prey for the 70's. Hopefuly with the expansion coming out soon, the population situation will improve. Are you in a guild? Look ours up if you want. Steamrollers. Small group of friends with alts of most every level. Or if you want something bigger check out Wildfire. I raid with them sometimes and they seem like a good bunch of guys. Lots of other good guilds to chose from. And if you decide to roll on another server, good luck to you and no hard feelings<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />.

[Myxzptlk]

Meh, i call it like i see it, though i honestly havent seen it for a while. Maybe there is more people on vox now, but if someone from vox is coming here saying there is no one to fight, then i wouldnt put much hope in the fact that it has changed. Sorry for downing vox, i would just prefer it if people knew what they were getting into when they decide to put time on vox building a character. One good thing about vox is that, when you level to 70 and find noone to fight, at least you can sell your toon there legally. Yay Vox!! 200 bucks FTW!!!

[q149]

They should just delete Vox.

[Croniccaster]

<cite>q149 wrote:</cite><blockquote>They should just delete Vox.</blockquote>         Thanks for your opinion. I'm sure it means as much to Sony as it doe's to me. Here's mine, if they would delete people with attitudes like you, all servers would be better off...<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />. Just an opinion.

[Tarlok]

<p>I personaly like vox though I will admit the t5 pvp scene is a bit sparse.  One other thing the op might not have considered though.  I and a lot of others see a druid, any druid and will not engage them in battle for the simple reason that its an exercise in futility unless they are either really green (even then its a gamble), or have at least 2 others to back them up.  There very well could have been enemy chars that saw you but just moved on to easier targets.</p>

[Ze]

I play on Naggy, my new main is a 42 Brigand. Now, I will admit that I play at unusual times - I log in at around 1 am EST and stay on for about 2 hours, every night or almost. I have gone for 1-2 weeks at the time without seeing a single fight - and I have been levelling outdoors. If Naggy is better than Vox, I can't imagine the bare wasteland that must be. Seriously, something is seriously wrong with this game, because under the definition of DEAD you will find EQ2 pvp...

[q149]

<p>Even Nagafen is basically dead unless you are level 15 or level 70..</p><p>They should really just merge all 14 people from Vox/Veneker to Nagafen and delete those servers.</p>

[Calh]

Nagafen isn't dead, I think it wouldn't be a good idea to merge all the pvp servers. I wish they would open up like a 1 time thing to transfer off Vox, would love to get my brig to Naggy instead of watching her rot over on Vox.

[IcterusGalbula]

<p>I wanted to post an marginally-related note without creating a new thread.</p><p>Tonight I dug out my level 18 Fury twink with his Hunter title.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />  He was questing in Antonica and had not seen a single Freeporter.  Eventually somebody shouted that there were two level-15 Freeporters nearby.</p><p>I could not track them, obviously, and soon forgot about them.  I stumbled upon two Freeporters a while later.  I locked on one of them and fired without noticing anything but that they were level 15.  I wasn't even sure they were Freeporters, knowing my spell would not work if they Q.</p><p>It turns out the one I attacked was a wizzard who might not have had a title.  The other one was a Champion of unknown class.</p><p>Almost as soon as I attacked the wizzard the Champion ran off!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p>I actually felt sorry for that poor wizzard, being deserted like that.  I still killed him.  I just felt kind of bad for him.</p><p>I guess that is what you call protecting your title!!!!</p><p>I thought I was going to be in for a rough fight taking on 2 guys at once.  I was loaded down with rares and loot from NPCs and didn't even care.  And that Champion just ran off!  I still cannot believe it.  I've never seen that before.  Ha!</p>

[Patric]

theres a fundimental flaw to the pvp but thats another story scouts can see other people on track very limited range everybody should be able to type W and see if theres is an enemy in the zone to fight instead of wasting  [ANGRY!!!!] hours of our time wanking around felling sorry and thinking am i realy paying for this also being put off the game then spreading your unhappiness to other players and them joining in the moan also.

[Wilde_Night]

<cite>q149 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Even Nagafen is basically dead unless you are level 15 or level 70..</p><p>They should really just merge all 14 people from Vox/Veneker to Nagafen and delete those servers.</p></blockquote>Venekor is far from dead.  But thanks for caring.

[Norrsken]

<cite>q149 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Even Nagafen is basically dead unless you are level 15 or level 70..</p><p>They should really just merge all 14 people from Vox/Veneker to Nagafen and delete those servers.</p></blockquote>What? I really didnt notice that at all. I have toons in t2-4 and 7 atm. Nowhere is it dead. And my guidlies have toons in t6, and it sure as hell dont seem dead there either to me.

[Darman81]

Well I cant speak for Vox but I have some insight on Nagafen. I know there are a lot of people who hate level lockers but this is the main reason I have one character locked from T-2 to T-4. I rolled on Nagafen to PVP and there is Allways somebody to fight in one of those tiers. For example, DLW the T-2 -T-3 pvp area. Also the commonlands around the caves and respawn there is allways some great pvp action. Crossroads another fun area. If you want the PVP action in t-4 just hang around the zek docks or enchanted lands docks. Also I have characters on the good side and bad side just in case its slow on one side or the other. I only have two characters locked and all my other characters are just leveling with combat xp off. This way im leveling slow and experiencing all the game has to offer. My suggestion would be to try out Nagafen. And if you really want a challenge go exile and have everyone attack you!

[Roald]

<p>Naggy was pretty dead last night.</p><p>I think the merge all servers is a good idea.</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Naggy was pretty dead last night.</p><p>I think the merge all servers is a good idea.</p></blockquote>Really? Me and my guildie got 30-40 kills last night.

[IcterusGalbula]

<cite>Darman81 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well I cant speak for Vox but I have some insight on Nagafen. I know there are a lot of people who hate level lockers but this is the main reason I have one character locked from T-2 to T-4. I rolled on Nagafen to PVP and there is Allways somebody to fight in one of those tiers. For example, DLW the T-2 -T-3 pvp area. Also the commonlands around the caves and respawn there is allways some great pvp action. Crossroads another fun area. If you want the PVP action in t-4 just hang around the zek docks or enchanted lands docks. Also I have characters on the good side and bad side just in case its slow on one side or the other. <b>I only have two characters locked and all my other characters are just leveling with combat xp off.</b> This way im leveling slow and experiencing all the game has to offer. My suggestion would be to try out Nagafen. And if you really want a challenge go exile and have everyone attack you! </blockquote><p>I am confused by the sentence in bold.</p><p>I thought the only way to lock was to turn combat experience off.</p><p>Is there another way?</p><p>One option says something like "Disable Combat Experience" and another says "Switch as XP is gained".</p><p>I disable combat experience and I leave the option showing "Switch as XP is gained" on the screen, which I believe means "Do not switch as XP is gained".</p><p>What exactly does the "Switch as XP is gained" versus "Don't switch as XP is gained" option do?</p><p>When combat experience is disabled I can still gain a level by obtaining experience in other ways.  By clicking on "Don't switch as XP is gained" is that supposed to stop me from gaining a level no matter where the experience comes from?</p>

[Roald]

<cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Naggy was pretty dead last night.</p><p>I think the merge all servers is a good idea.</p></blockquote>Really? Me and my guildie got 30-40 kills last night.</blockquote><p>Yea, apart from the 5ish kills I got in EL while u were there too, I got maybe 5 other solo kills.</p><p>Logged onto my 15 warden and went out in a guild group and there were very few QS about. This was at probably 8pm EST.</p>

[Netzoko]

<cite>Croniccaster wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>q149 wrote:</cite><blockquote>They should just delete Vox.</blockquote>         Thanks for your opinion. I'm sure it means as much to Sony as it doe's to me. Here's mine, if they would delete people with attitudes like you, all servers would be better off...<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />. Just an opinion.</blockquote>Denial leads to anger and aggression.

[Norrsken]

<cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Naggy was pretty dead last night.</p><p>I think the merge all servers is a good idea.</p></blockquote>Really? Me and my guildie got 30-40 kills last night.</blockquote><p>Yea, apart from the 5ish kills I got in EL while u were there too, I got maybe 5 other solo kills.</p><p>Logged onto my 15 warden and went out in a guild group and there were very few QS about. This was at probably 8pm EST.</p></blockquote>Yeah, right about when you took off (didnt see you again) a few groups came into EL. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Not counting the 50ies and 70ies standing around.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Naggy was pretty dead last night.</p><p>I think the merge all servers is a good idea.</p></blockquote>They were all on their alts on Venekor last night.. I couldn't zone in anywhere without groups of the opposite faction waiting for me. Perhaps Nag wasn't everything it was cracked up to be when they transferred? Not a knock on Nag.. but lets face it.. the environment is very different and some people may have prematurely transferred due to all the hype and found it much less fun than they expected.On the other hand.. I have no problem with a universal PvP server merger. Harvesting will be nearly impossible and that will make MC gear prices shoot through the roof. I'm all for banking 20 plat a day harvesting and tradeskilling. ^^

[ThomasGrey]

<p>Nagafen is just right.  I've been leveled locked from 34 to 36 for the last 2 weeks working on quests/AA and I probably average 4 or 5 fights a night(two or three hours primetime EST) while not going out of my way to find pvp.</p><p>The zones I've been frequenting:</p><p>EL, Zek, FG, TS, ROV</p><p>Its not uncommon to find 40 players between the docks in these zones.</p><p>Consistently the whining I hear in game channel about the lack of pvp, is from the guys specifically looking for an enemy of a specific title to fight.  One more reason I find the title system to be a joke.  I have yet to fight a champion one on one in T4 that did anything that overly impressed me.    </p>

[ShesSoSurreal]

<cite>Lunewhite wrote:</cite><blockquote>theres a fundimental flaw to the pvp but thats another story scouts can see other people on track very limited range e<span style="color: #cc0066;"><b>verybody should be able to type W and see if theres is an enemy in the zone to fight instead of wasting  [ANGRY!!!!] hours of our time </b></span>wanking around felling sorry and thinking am i realy paying for this also being put off the game then spreading your unhappiness to other players and them joining in the moan also.</blockquote>This sentence is the only thing I can agree with in the thread.As far as " My server is dead" or "Your server is dead.. haha you suck"  or "Our server is fine"... These are all matters of opinion. Everyone sees different action. Theres way too many things to alter a play experience to determine this, unless everyone is agreeing. YOU might think a server is dead, but it could have been your level, your class, your play times, your location. Sometimes its just hard to find fights. other times (Usually when you are not hunting) You cant avoid fights and don't even get to do what you want. If you are not happy with the pvp, try out other servers and compare, try different level ranges, different classes. I have a toon in every tier, it helps. Like I said though, I do (Somewhat) agree that we should be able to see if there are any enemies in the zone. In a way, this could help find pvp, or not. But it's not a bad idea. I don't think it should work in Newbie zones a) they are too small b) let the new players level!! /sigh

[Taldier]

<cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Naggy was pretty dead last night.</p><p>I think the merge all servers is a good idea.</p></blockquote><p>People really need to think these comment through.   First of all if your literally expecting to find a different full group every 2 minutes, you want a fps not an rpg. </p><p>If thats not what you want, you need to realize that with the very not dead populations of nagafen and venekor merged together with vox's, plus all the people who would log in just to find out what the merged server was like, plus all the new/returning players who will be playing with the new expansion, the game would be completely unplayable.</p><p>Hell I get lag in x2vx2 pvp while in extreme performance, you people are literally talking about multiple x4's fighting it out in the same zone 24/7.  Think of all the people who have dsl or god forbid even dialup, and thats if it doesnt just flat out crash the server.</p><p>I cant speak for naggy, but I can say that on venekor t7 pvp seems to be getting more people every day while all the low lvl lockers are complaining about less pvp... draw your own conclusions from that...</p>

[ThomasGrey]

<cite>Taldier wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I cant speak for naggy, but I can say that on venekor t7 pvp seems to be getting more people every day while all the low lvl lockers are complaining about less pvp... draw your own conclusions from that...</p></blockquote>My T4 crafter has been selling alot of MC gear on the broker lately too(on Nag).  Are the T2's unlocking?

[Bluetygur]

<p><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: verdana,geneva;">Well, obviously YMMV, but I like VOX a lot, and see plently of people to fight.  To the original poster, I would suggest that, in light of his low AA points, the best way to level those up is to run the timeline quests.  You may gain too much xp this way (if you really insist on remaining level-locked) but that is by FAR the best way to get AA.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">When I am doing those quests, either solo or grouped, I almost always run into pvp.  Sometimes even too much pvp <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">But I agree with those who have pointed out that, if you just want to "go out and do straight pvp", most of the action is either t2, or t7 in KoS.  Personally I HATE KoS so I rarely go there.  I am hoping that the new expansion will provide better locations for pvp.</span></p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>ThomasGrey wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Taldier wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I cant speak for naggy, but I can say that on venekor t7 pvp seems to be getting more people every day while all the low lvl lockers are complaining about less pvp... draw your own conclusions from that...</p></blockquote>My T4 crafter has been selling alot of MC gear on the broker lately too(on Nag).  Are the T2's unlocking?</blockquote>PRobably. Must be a combination of this rumor of locking getting thrown out together with the new expansion coming soon.

[Mildavyn]

<p>Rumour says they're going to be un-able to lock in T2 shortly... guess they're all trying to get a head-start on all the other twinks.</p><p>Title-wh0res FTW I guess.</p>

[Croniccaster]

<cite>Netzoko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Croniccaster wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>q149 wrote:</cite><blockquote>They should just delete Vox.</blockquote>         Thanks for your opinion. I'm sure it means as much to Sony as it doe's to me. Here's mine, if they would delete people with attitudes like you, all servers would be better off...<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />. Just an opinion.</blockquote>Denial leads to anger and aggression. </blockquote>        Well....I usually just ignore trollish statements like that one q149 made, but that day I think I had read several other similar comments and had kind of gotten tired of it.        And I don't mean to sound angry or aggressive, but If you had bothered to read most any other posts I've made, you'd know that I don't deny anything about Vox. Why should I? Me and some other's are working on the population problem which seems to be improving slowly. In every other way Vox is already a great server for those that want a mixed style of play,pve and pvp, with maybe a little less ganking(another shameless promotion of Vox...lol).

[Tae]

<cite>Croniccaster wrote:</cite><cite></cite> <blockquote> In every other way Vox is already a great server for those that want a mixed style of play,pve and pvp, with maybe a little less ganking(another shameless promotion of Vox...lol).</blockquote>I don't see how you can say this. The vast majority of T7 PvM takes place in instances. Even if everywhere was crawling with the opposite faction it's really not all that hard to just run into an instance. If anything Venekor is this, a mix of PvM and PvP - because at least when you go out to PvP you've got a decent chance of finding at least <i>one </i>person to beat up, even if they are a bot, but you can also sit around and level too.

[Dojac]

Oh joy another vox is dead thread. All I have to say is PvP can be found so long as you're willing to look for it.

[Croniccaster]

<cite>Taear@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Croniccaster wrote:</cite><cite></cite> <blockquote> In every other way Vox is already a great server for those that want a mixed style of play,pve and pvp, with maybe a little less ganking(another shameless promotion of Vox...lol).</blockquote>I don't see how you can say this. The vast majority of T7 PvM takes place in instances. Even if everywhere was crawling with the opposite faction it's really not all that hard to just run into an instance. If anything Venekor is this, a mix of PvM and PvP - because at least when you go out to PvP you've got a decent chance of finding at least <i>one </i>person to beat up, even if they are a bot, but you can also sit around and level too.</blockquote>      Sorry it took so long to reply but hadn't checked this thread in awhile. I'm not sure what you're getting from the part of my post you quoted. I haven't complained about too many of the opposite faction running around. And if you took anything I said to be a put down of Venekor, thats not true at all. I try and never make negative remarks about any other server. Matter of fact it seems from what I can tell Venekor and Vox have similar populations and gameplay. The ganking comment was not  directed at any server in particular, just a complaint I've seen posted about many times on these boards. And I said MAYBE less ganking...lol. Not sure how you could think I was just talking about Venekor...<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />.  Anyway, this is something I posted in another thread about my game experience on Vox last night. Pretty typical though sometimes things can be dead. Is this similar to an evening on Venekor? And nothing but respect from me for Venekor and Naggy. <span class="postbody">Server seemed pretty busy last night. Got with a good group last night and did Crypt of Valdoon and OOB back to back. Think that was the 1st time I've done both those without dieing once, so gratz to that group...lol. Didn't get a single good drop however. I must have the worst luck ever when it comes to loot...<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />.           Even managed to get some pvp in between instances. A group of frps broke off from a 4X raid in Loping plains and engaged us. We managed to kill them, but good fight from those guys( Absolution guild?). So props to those frps. They fought and didn't try and bring the whole raid with them. Guess they were going to Mistmore. Hope they got some good loots. While that was going on I was listening to some friends on TS who were getting a lot of pvp action in KOS(hate that place for pvp), and I think Sinking sands.        So to the OP, I sometimes log in during prime time and not much is going on, but most of the time there is something to do. Last night you had instance groups, pvp, and at least 1 4X raid on the Freeporter side. Thats just the things going on I know about. Meet people, find a good guild if you havn't already, and you should be fine.</span>