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DngrMou
10-19-2007, 01:08 PM
I'm a bit confused....I checked the specs on both the Soulfire Saber, and Gladius, and it appears that the Sabre is hands down the better weapon, (for damage).  In game though, I've been told it's the reverse of that.  I'm working my way through this questline now, and I'd prefer the reward that maximizes damage.  Which one is it?

Aristigon
10-19-2007, 01:52 PM
It honestly depends on how you play.If you just wield one weapon such as with a STR/WIS or AGI/WIS spec then the sabre is the better weapon.With a dual wield spec your weapons gain 33% their listed delay. So the gladius in dual wield would have an effective weapon delay of 4.0 which seems to be a bit of a sweet spot for max dps. Dual wield is also the FOTM spec it seems since GU38.

Rippitt
10-19-2007, 11:37 PM
Sabre is a better 1h, Gladius the better DW (in my eyes)

PaganSaint
10-20-2007, 02:34 AM
Gladius will be continue to be excellent in the next teir unless there is a weapon with the same 5% block chance with a better damage potential that is easily obtained(quested not random drop)The Sabre is a pure DPS weapon and will be easily replaced by the next teir of weapons.

Cocytus
10-20-2007, 07:44 AM
<cite>Rippitt@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sabre is a better 1h, Gladius the better DW (in my eyes)</blockquote>Agreed.

SmCaudata
10-21-2007, 03:00 PM
If you are 1h specced then the sabre 4.0 delay goes down to 1.77 delay with 200 haste.  But 2.0 with around 119% or whatever.If you are dual wield you are most certainly sailwind specced and thus the sabre will be 5.2 seconds normally thus down to 2.3 sec delay with 200 haste making it perfect for dual wield.If you have sailwind AND wisdom line then the sabre will usually require a brief delay between CAs for most consistent swings between CAs, but it still is a better delay than the gladius for 1h IMO. IMO the gladius is a tank weapon for the block chance.  The sabre is better DPS for rogues because our specs change our CA speeds.

Ookami-san
10-22-2007, 09:39 AM
<p>Gladius is great is you plan to solo with the STA line once we get more AAs.  Add a decent shield and the gladius.... I think it's going to be a great combo.</p><p>Otherwise... the 5% block is wasted without a shield.</p>

Needagroup
10-23-2007, 01:08 PM
<p>If you have sailwind, how many CAs can you get between sabre swings?   I've been assuming it's really just one, but maybe I'm missing some dps here.    My haste is usually not up to 200 in raids, so maybe I've got some room there.  (p.s.  what is the haste cap anyways?)</p>

DrJecky
10-23-2007, 08:29 PM
<p>Believe it or not, the gladius is actually the better weapon when 1h spec'd. Most of our dps comes from auto attack, not CA's. This allows more hits with the gladius in addition to a little bit higher of a damage spread, allowing for improved crits. Also, as your crit% increases, the gladius again shines more.</p><p>For a more detailed discussion about this, visit the eq2flames swashy section and look for a computer generated chart that shows the damage of several weapons with various crit values. In the end, the gladius has more dps potential, but there is the constantly changing variable that no one can calculate, the player. So the potential of the weapon may not be realized if your playstyle doesn't match the use of the weapon --using DW instead.</p>

DrJecky
10-24-2007, 03:43 PM
<cite>Needagroup wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>If you have sailwind, how many CAs can you get between sabre swings?   I've been assuming it's really just one, but maybe I'm missing some dps here.    My haste is usually not up to 200 in raids, so maybe I've got some room there.  (p.s.  what is the haste cap anyways?)</p></blockquote><p>You can get 2 ca's in with the sabre without sailwind, depending on haste value. With sailwind, depending on haste value of course, you can get 2 perhaps even 3 in between if you don't have a high haste value.</p>