Shock and Awe SOF

[madha]

THese wepeons are very nice but need a change.  If you look at the pierce it is usable by all melee types.  IF you look at the hammer it is fighter preist only.  Makes no sence since only guardians and zerker's will ever get the 2 piece effect from these items.

[midgarspride]

Also, the effect on Shock says it will proc on "any attack" however it does not proc on ranged (like buckler of howler, maestro's, etc).  It needs to either be fixed, or the description needs to be corrected.

[Nib]

<cite>midgarspride wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also, the effect on Shock says it will proc on "any attack" however it does not proc on ranged (like buckler of howler, maestro's, etc).  It needs to either be fixed, or the description needs to be corrected.</blockquote>You are incorrect.   Maestro's Flame and Buckler of the Howler proc on successful COMBAT ART. Ranged attacks cannot trigger mainhand procs, this has been in effect for a while now and is the reason (most) Rangers no longer use Qeynos Kilij or Iceforged Sais.

[ke'la]

<cite>midgarspride wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also, the effect on Shock says it will proc on "any attack" however it does not proc on ranged (like buckler of howler, maestro's, etc).  It needs to either be fixed, or the description needs to be corrected.</blockquote>"Any Attack" means and has ment for a LONG time any attack WITH THIS WEOPON, wich means when THAT WEOPON auto attacks or on CAs that USE THAT WEOPON. As your quiver is not full of Shock "Arrows" you are not attacking with Shock.

[Cocytus]

I think it makes sense.

[midgarspride]

<cite>Niber@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>midgarspride wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also, the effect on Shock says it will proc on "any attack" however it does not proc on ranged (like buckler of howler, maestro's, etc).  It needs to either be fixed, or the description needs to be corrected.</blockquote>You are incorrect.   Maestro's Flame and Buckler of the Howler proc on successful COMBAT ART. Ranged attacks cannot trigger mainhand procs, this has been in effect for a while now and is the reason (most) Rangers no longer use Qeynos Kilij or Iceforged Sais.</blockquote><p>Nah, you are incorrect about buckler of the howler unless they changed the description on it very recently:</p><p><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=27062" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.h...l?eq2item=27062</a></p><p>In fact, this item has virtually the same description as wanning moon cutter from Emerald Halls, yet buckler procs off ranged where wanning will not. </p><p>The sticky at the top of this forum titled "Archonix's Guide to EQ2 Equipment Proc Triggers" states that as of GU32 the dev's defined "On a successful attack" and "On any successful attack" as a proc that will trigger on Any melee attack, ranged attack, and damage-based combat arts / spells.</p><p>The point I was getting at is that if Shock isn't intended to proc on a successful attack, the description should be fixed like all of the other weapons that are randomly biased toward melee.  You are right, the claymore no longer procs off ranged, but you are incorrect that rangers no longer use them (I can link you profiles of raiding rangers who hold it for stats still - not everyone has maestros).</p><p>The point of my comment was that the description conflicts with the GU notes from Devs, and while that may be expected from items that existed before GU update, new zones with new loot tables should not carry forward this really confusing naming convention and should clearly state what the weapon actually does so ranged melee doesn't waste DKP or loot items that could be better put to use by pure melee.  Do you disagree with that?</p>

[Mystfit]

Shock and Awe are just meaaaannnnttt to be in the hands of dual wielder classes.  Pleasee.....!!! My dirge can jsut TASTE it <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Cocytus]

No. They don't need to give scouts blunt weapons. I'm going to be very angry if they give scouts blunt weapons.

[Mystfit]

Then make it a non-blunt weapon. The thing has a stacking bonus..only useful if you have both..so why make one of the classes that can use it, (healers) someone  who can never benefit from the bonus?

[Leatherneck]

<cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote>No. They don't need to give scouts blunt weapons.<b> I'm going to be very angry if they give scouts blunt weapons.</b></blockquote>Too late.  There are already blunt weapons scouts can use.

[Lord Montague]

I think one thing people have missed is this - Shock is NOT tagged LORE.  So, what happens when you manage to get 2 Shocks?  Does the set effect still activate? Hmm...

[44Dragon]

I had both items drop last night.  It is an interesting set.  I don't know that it needs to be changed.  There are enough melee weapon choices out there that this just provides an interesting option for some toons.  As a ranger I can only use one.  Now add in a bow to this line, and I would be all over it.