What of Miragul?

[goldfeesh641]

Does anyone have any idea what happened to the necromancer/lich of legend?Supposedly, once he attained his lichdom, his soul was entrapped in his phyalctery and so the physical lich wandered about aimlessly, while his spirit was forced to watch his creations stumble around his great artifacts.  However, with the transformation that all Erudites went through, would this be enough to somehow shunt his body to also change and perhaps give his soul a chance to regain control over it?  Or has he found a way out of his phylactery?

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>His menagerie (or at least a part of it) is still in Everfrost.  Having never done the proper instance (only the one for the first prismatic quest), I'm not sure if you end up fighting him or not.</p><p>Did his corporeal (ie skeletal) and soul finally find each other?  I have no idea.  However, I doubt the change that the Erudites brought upon themselves has affected him, as he was already dead when they preformed the ritual.  Moreover, I'm not sure the transformation would have brough him anything that would have made the ritual he preformed to become a lich any more successful (think it was a miscalculation, or mispoken word, or perhaps he simply misunderstood what the end result of the ritual was supposed to be).  Maybe you could get a group of friends together and go check it out!</p>

[goldfeesh641]

The instance culminates not with Miragul but with some planar creature that is summoned there.  Once again, Miragul's Menagerie is still just his mindless abominations + crazing conniving sorcerer looking for power.  I'm not really worrying about finding him too much, but I'm curious as to whta happened to him.  I mean, yeah, he "miscalculated" and his soul was trpaped in his phylactery, but it seems to me that there has to be more behind it than that... Miragul was not one to mess up, and if so, not on something this huge.  Dates can put him back all the way to the Combine Era, which would perchance put him in good relation with Seru or Mayong Mistmoore...I don't know, to me it just seems like there should be more to his story...

[Cusashorn]

I dont think the erudite change affected him. I mean, he was already long dead when it happened.

[goldfeesh641]

The Erudite change was just me speculating on a possible loophole for his return.To me, it seems like there are actually several they could call upon, especially once Odus is rediscovered (definately seems like a possibility when reading through Vhalen's posts), but I'm more interested in what befell him between EQ and EQ2 and where he might be today...

[Rainmare]

Part of the EQ1 Paladin Epic line had you get Miragul's phylactery and restore him to life, then kill him and take his head. They may use that to say someone killed him for that purpose.as to his screw up, I think it was due to paranoia. All the Liches in Eq have had outside assistance during or to perform the ritual. Venril had his Cult of the Arisen, Lucan had the Foci (I still think she did it, and used his phylactery as leverage). Miragul tried to do the entire ritual/ceremony by himself. it'd be easy to mis-calculate something or overlook/disreguard some minute detail that screws up the whole thing.I mean even Al'kabor, one of the most arrogant, obsessive, proud erudites ever didn't try to do everything on his own. he had apprentices and such to help with his experiments. he at least understood you can't do every little thing on your own sometimes without something getting screwed up eventually.

[standupwookie]

There are several big-name Mobs from EQ1 that have lots of lore in EQ2 and are in the game.Nagafen and Vox had the Fire and Ice quests during the initial release.Mayong was the BBG for EOFKOS had those Dragons.They try to tie in their BBGs with expansions.Kunarks' will probably be Venril Sathir as the BBG and will no doubt be one of the final stages for the epic weapon quest.I think Miragul will make his appearance with Velious, even though he was never a part of that.

[goldfeesh641]

Really?  You think Vellious?  My money I would put on Odus.  Who else could they have be the big baddy there?  I doubt the Muglwump will seriously be that big of an encounter (of course, the kobolds of the Warrens may have become much more powerful...)

[Cusashorn]

<p>Velious? He's never even been there in his travels around the world. Odus? In this day and age I doubt his lich would find it's way across entire continents like that.</p><p>I really don't think he's going to play an important part in this game at all. I mean he was long dead before EQlive's timeline started, and he's still dead now. he didn't play *THAT* big of an importance back then or now. Venril Sathir, Vox and Nagafen, and all the others are actual threats now, so they play a bigger role.</p>

[Rainmare]

I was under the impression that during his living years, Miragul had portals and pathways to and from his menagerie all over the place. he was so paranoid about being followed back that he'd basically just make a hidden telelport point to it from wherever he was. there's a chance he might have been to velious...but yeah, he wasn't a major player in EQ1, except for a bit of lore about Erudin/Paineel and the Paladin Epic.the thing I'd find interesting if they did bring him back, is that according to Lore, he mastered nearly all the schools of magic. he'd use illusions to study in erudin, be himself studying in Paineel. so obviously he was a necromancer, and an illusionist, but I wonder how much of conjuration and wizardry he learned.he could be one really mean SoB if they did him right in EQ2....provided he's rejoined his body and not dust by now.though speaking of Odus. it's also the home of another powerful mage that was also, as time went by, looking for methods to extend his life or gain immortality. Al'Kabor. I wonder if he figured something out and is somewhere still in Odus?

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Rainy wrote:</cite><blockquote>I was under the impression that during his living years, Miragul had portals and pathways to and from his menagerie all over the place. he was so paranoid about being followed back that he'd basically just make a hidden telelport point to it from wherever he was. there's a chance he might have been to velious...but yeah, he wasn't a major player in EQ1, except for a bit of lore about Erudin/Paineel and the Paladin Epic.the thing I'd find interesting if they did bring him back, is that according to Lore, he mastered nearly all the schools of magic. he'd use illusions to study in erudin, be himself studying in Paineel. so obviously he was a necromancer, and an illusionist, but I wonder how much of conjuration and wizardry he learned.he could be one really mean SoB if they did him right in EQ2....provided he's rejoined his body and not dust by now.though speaking of Odus. it's also the home of another powerful mage that was also, as time went by, looking for methods to extend his life or gain immortality. Al'Kabor. I wonder if he figured something out and is somewhere still in Odus?</blockquote>Actually, he split himself into four different personas. Miragul himself studies Necromancy, while each of his 3 other personas under different appearances and names each studied in Conjuration, Phantasmagoria, and Sorcery. He effectively mastered all 4 without the High Council of Erudin ever finding out. It's forbidden to learn more than one mastery in magic in Erudian culture.