Request - Dark Elf creation story

[Fellindar]

I have searched the boards for a post I know i saw once but it might have been before the forums were upgraded - basically with as an extended teir'dal creation story that detailed Inny capturing the prince then exchanging him for King and Queen Thex and the subsequent Koada'Dal invasion of the plane of hate.Anyone have a copy they can post or if I have missed the post here somewhere a link?

[Axxon]

<p>I posted the thing I think you're talking about.  It's an elaboration of the official lore we've been given, but technically its from the pen and paper version of EQ, if I recall correctly.  The thread was called Ancient History of the Teir'Dal, and its gone now.  BUT, I put a copy on my guild's site, which you can read <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=151467&ForumID=713245&TabID=1285239&TopicID=4370442" target="_blank">here.</a></p><p> EDIT:  And actually, I'm wrong.  It is still on these boards, found <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=187067" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a></p>

[Cusashorn]

Inny never captured an elven prince. He just snatched up the first Elven King and Queen directly.

[Rezikai]

<p>I posted the thing I think you're talking about.  It's an elaboration of the official lore we've been given, but technically its from the pen and paper version of EQ, if I recall correctly.  The thread was called Ancient History of the Teir'Dal, and its gone now.  BUT, I put a copy on my guild's site, which you can read <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=151467&ForumID=713245&TabID=1285239&TopicID=4370442" target="_blank">here.</a></p><hr /><p>To be honest this is the version i prefer, where Innoruuk is going to capture the prince but in the "deal" made in a split second the King and Queen trade their lives for his. Then slowly over time are "turned"(by Inny's own hatefull ways along w/ the hate between the king and queen)  into Dark Elves. </p><p>I had read some other versions.. (one where the King and Queen return to takish'Hiz stumbling out of the Elddar forest.. but already "turned" for Innoruuk. But i dont remember if that was beta lore of EQ1 or Fanfiction (Cusa would probably know).</p><p>I prefer the Pen&Paper.. even though its "not entirely" accurate.. as in the story they claim King Naythox is called Naythox I, and is slain by the old Overlord Xanit K'Ven at the end, while in EQ1-EQ2 history Naythox is assassinated during the war of the Fay... so i chalk that event in the story to "dramatic flare" the writer put in for the SOE pen&paper product. Meh .... Xanit looks like he could have taken Naythox.. sucks D'Lere rips off his image.</p><p><img src="http://www.freewebs.com/tunarianoutcast/xanit.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="687" height="497" /> </p><p>Xanit K'Ven aka "Captain K'Ven" (from the 47 EQoA quest) or Overlord K'ven as told in the story</p><p>(picture stolen from Axxon's old website... hehe)</p>

[Fellindar]

Thanks very much guys =D, and yeah I know its not 'Official' EQ2 lore Cusa (although I appriciate you highlighting it for anyone that reads the post <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />) but they are both closely linked and I like this expanded version <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />Anyway thanks again!

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>Yeah, as stated, the story isn't official EQ2 lore, it's official PnP lore.  There are a few things that bother me (it seems they made the monarchs who were reigning during the original EQ the first monarchs for their races.  This doesn't seem probable, not impossible, note, simply improbable).</p><p>That said, I agree that it's a great story, and in more than a few ways, I could see that being a means by which Inny corrupted the first King and Queen.  The Overlord thing bothers me a little bit as well, but as we have no other sources to compare the early history of these races to, I suppose we are only left to wonder and speculate.</p>

[Axxon]

I agree - it does have to be taken with a grain of salt, since there are obviously things in this version that do not jive with established EQ lore as was pointed out.  But, to the extent that I can pull some elements from this story to put meat on the bones of the established lore, I like it and I use it.  I'm glad people enjoyed it and are still enjoying it so many months later. 

[Cusashorn]

<p>Just remember that the Everquest and Everquest 2 video games themselves take priority with the lore. If anything is mentioned there, but it's different in the Pen and Paper, the games are... hmm, well for lack of a better word, the canon versions.</p><p>I'm not saying PnP isn't correct, but the games are the central media that everything is based around.</p>

[einar4]

<cite>Nocturnal Abyss wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah, as stated, the story isn't official EQ2 lore, it's official PnP lore.  There are a few things that bother me (it seems they made the monarchs who were reigning during the original EQ the first monarchs for their races.  This doesn't seem probable, not impossible, note, simply improbable).</p><p>That said, I agree that it's a great story, and in more than a few ways, I could see that being a means by which Inny corrupted the first King and Queen.  The Overlord thing bothers me a little bit as well, but as we have no other sources to compare the early history of these races to, I suppose we are only left to wonder and speculate.</p></blockquote><p> Actually it was the reigning king and queen of Takish'hiz, the original elven city of old Elddar wood(what is not the desert of Ro).  The original story from the EQ1 lore is told in one of the original ages, the age of monuments:</p><p><i><b>"It was inevitable that such energies involved in seeding planets with life would attract even more of the gods, and it was the Elves who drew the unwanted attention of Innoruuk, Prince of Hate. In a decrepit tower overlooking the dark decaying alleys of the Plane over which he ruled, Innoruuk waited, stoking the fire of his Hate until it was a raging inferno. He cursed his fellow gods for not including him in their pact and vowed to make them regret such disrespect. From the halls of the Elves' fair city, Takish-Hiz, the Prince of Hate snatched away the first Elven King and Queen. In his realm of pain and anger he slowly tore them apart, physically and mentally, over the course of three hundred years. He then gathered the quivering remnants of these beings of light and rebuilt them into his own dark sadistic image, a twisted mockery of Tunare's noble children. In depositing the Teir'Dal, as Innoruuk's Dark Elven creations would come to be called, back into the Underfoot of Norrath, the seeds for The Prince of Hate's final revenge were sown. "</b></i></p><p> And the story is referred to in more detail during some dialog that was part of the Lost Dungeons of Norrath expansion.  Takish'hiz eventually fell with the burning Prince's influence, and the Wood Elves and High Elves fled to Faydwer, while Neriak was ruled by Christanos and Aythos (N'Aythos?).</p>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>I'm not sure what about my quote you're trying to dispute, since the source you sited simply reaffirms the things I've said.  The only thing you may be refering to is when I mentioned that Inny took the first King and Queen.  One of the sources supporting this is the Owners Manual for the <i>Ruins of Kunark</i>, under the section <i>A Wear Traveler's Journal</i>, under the subsection <i>Unwanted Attention - The Age of Monuments</i> is written as follows:</p><p><b><i>Innoruuk, The Prince of Hate, cursed his fellow gods for not including him in their pact and vowed they would regret such disrespect.</i></b>  <i>He took the first Elven King and Queen<b> and slowly tore them apart, physically and mentall, over the course of three hundred years.  He then rebuilt them into his own dark sadistic image.  These Dark Elven creatures came to be known as the Teir'Dal.</b></i></p><p>The version from the original manual that you sited is obviously a little bit more descriptive, but they both tell the same story.  In both of these versions, you'll not find the names of the king and queen, nor their son, or any mention of Overlord Xanit K'Ven.  And I believe you meant to say that the Elddar forest that is <i>now</i> the Desert of Ro, as opposed to <i>not</i> the Desert of Ro.</p><p>From the LDoN expansion,  the story listed <a rel="nofollow" href="http://lorenorrath.free.fr/read.php?link=ldon_takish" target="_blank">here</a>, it says that the first King and Queen had the name Tak'Hiz, and the second were King and Queen Tak'Yaliz.  The tale wouldn't be so annoying to read if you hadn't had to go out and keep doing quests for them so that you could hear the next part of the story.  Ah well. I'm not sure where you got the name of the first king and queen beyond it being Tak'Hiz, I don't think I overlooked anything.</p>