Which race has the most fanatical followers and why ?

[Sarkoris]

<p>I was just curious as to which race you think has the most loyal/fanatical following of the present EQ 2 races.</p><p>I put it under this forum as I think those that feel the closest to their character and their race are those that follow the lore and history (culture if you will) of that chosen race.</p><p>I'll start off saying Iksar get my vote. The main reason I think this is the case is the design of their original home city. Cabilis was home to Iksar and noone else. Virtually the whole continent was Iksar centric. As this was the case Iksar got used to seeing other Iksar almost exclusively all the time. Only very few players in the early days had the patience to do the bone chip hand in quest several 1000 times to gain acceptance. What this allowed was a sense of cummunity. You saw the same players daily, their names became familiar. Although journeying to that other continent was possible it was not necessary. You could level quite happily without ever needing to leave your home.</p><p>Now a fair chunk of that pertains to EQ 1 and not 2 but I think many of that Iksar community has moved from one game to the other. We got used to being hated by all others, hating all others and having to rely on our Iksar bretheren. And our lore was just badass.</p><p>So come on, prove me wrong. And no "my race is better because yours is stinky" please. Reasonable arguments only.</p><p>Oh and if you ask nicely we "may" let you visit (for a short time) our soon to be rediscovered shiny new continent.</p><p>Sark.</p>

[Cusashorn]

Statistical evidence says otherwise. Elves are generally the most popular race in the game. That doesn't mean the players think they're great from a lore perspective.

[Thrizz]

Are you talking about playerwise? Cause unfortunately the elves win that race... dark elves I think the most.Now if you talk about religious fervor...I have to agree. If you compare the Dark Elves of Innoruuk and the Iksar of Cazic Thule..... well. I think fearing a god can make you more of a fanatic then actively worshipping - you do it to avoid wrath - not out of "love" for the deity.

[Dreyco]

That would depend on how you define "Fanatacism"In some ways the Iksar are.In some ways, they are not.

[Mary the Prophetess]

<p>I would define religious fanatacism as intolerance (to the point of active hostility) toward other religions and dieties.  </p><p>Under that definition, then I think perhaps the followers of Innoruuk may have a slight edge over those of Cazic Thule.</p><p>However xenophobia would be a hostile distrust of any racial outsiders, and I think in that respect that the Iksar or the Renda 'Dal would be the leading candidates.</p>

[Sarkoris]

<p>Maybe I wasn't as clear as I could of been. What I am talking about here are which players are the most passionate about their chosen character race. Not who has the most numbers etc. Some players play a race for how it looks, some play ot from the min/max perspective in that they have certain stats which favour a certain class. What I am talking about here is which race inspires the most loyalty etc. Iksars from my example might not have the highest numbers - for a long time in EQ 1 they had an experience penalty to compsenate for their racial advantages. Halflings for example had an experience bonus making them a good choice for those players that didnt care about race only about leveling as quickly as possible.</p><p>So my question remains- which race has the most fanatical players (not numbers per se).</p><p>Sark. </p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Sarkoris wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe I wasn't as clear as I could of been. What I am talking about here are which players are the most passionate about their chosen character race. Not who has the most numbers etc. Some players play a race for how it looks, some play ot from the min/max perspective in that they have certain stats which favour a certain class. What I am talking about here is which race inspires the most loyalty etc. Iksars from my example might not have the highest numbers - for a long time in EQ 1 they had an experience penalty to compsenate for their racial advantages. Halflings for example had an experience bonus making them a good choice for those players that didnt care about race only about leveling as quickly as possible.</p><p>So my question remains- which race has the most fanatical players (not numbers per se).</p><p>Sark. </p></blockquote>And yet the majority of players didn't know about the XP factors, and Halflings are ugly anyway. :p As to your question: I'm not sure if it actually can be answered. Everyone's opinion differs.

[Mary the Prophetess]

<p>I have seen some *excellent* roleplay from a wide variety of races and classes  from both EQ Live and EQ2.   Haughty, condecending Teir 'Dal, grumpy irascible Dwarves, carefree hungry Halflings, stoggy self-rightious Paladins, bumbling absent-minded Wizards, and ale-guzzling, rough and tumble Barbarians.  As well as lisping, scheming Iksars.</p><p>I would find it very difficult to say which race or class has the most dedicated followers, because I have seen too many played too well.  </p><p>However if you *forced* me to choose, I would probably say Dark Elves, in all their EQ (and non-EQ) permutations.  A number of sites go into extensive geneologies, and attempts at Teir 'Dal languages have been made, as well as the convoluted, (and painful to an EQ purist), efforts to somehow equate the Teir 'Dal to the Drow of AD&D.  All-in-all the Dark Elves seem to be more dedicated than most.</p>

[Josgar]

High elves.... DUH They have me! AND EVERYONE FOLLOWS ME!

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Josgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>High elves.... DUH They have me! AND EVERYONE FOLLOWS ME!</blockquote>*Slaps Josgar with a grizzled old, disgruntled fish who just lost everything he had when he blew the last of his fortunes on the lottery*

[Sarkoris]

<p>Alright I'll make this easier - which race are "you" passionate about and why. Which race annoys the hell out of you if any.</p><p>Opinions are welcome - does looks come into it, you just like the races back story or its suits your playstyle ie dont like large races as you find them awkward to play etc.</p><p>Sark.</p>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>Heh, from a lore standpoint, I'd say that the most fanatic playable races would be:</p><p>Ogres Iksar</p><p>Teir'Dal </p><p>Sorry goodies, you're not even on the map..</p><p>I have not met many ogres who don't follow Rallos Zek, and during the absence of the gods, you would not be able to convince me that the Iksar were more faithful to Cazic-Thule than the Rallosions were to Rallos Zek.</p><p>That said, I'd also argue that the Rallosians were not more zealous than the iksar.</p><p>The Teir'Dal have always lifted their hatred, and considered themselves the blessed of their god, but they also seem to allow a lot more lenience in their societies than the first two.  The fact that worship of Bristlebane, Rallos Zek, Solusek Ro, and the Twins of Torment was even permitted in the city says something about the weakness of the Spire's hold on the Teir'Dal people.  In my opinion, I think the Teir'Dal think too much of themselves (or, to look at it from what might be one of their priest's perspectives, they don't hate themselves thoroughly enough).</p><p>As for player base, I'm afraid it would have to be dark elves hands down.  The majority of the RP playerbase is made up of people playing Dark Elves.  Whether they play them true to the EQ form can be (and often is) debatable, however the numbers and loyalty is mind-numbly extensive.</p><p>For me personally, I like a lot of them <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  A different character for every one that pops into my mind.  For lore purposes, I usually will play as an Erudite descended from the Heretics.  A practiced sage and scholar, as well as talented Coercer.  He has a fascination with the past, for, as anyone who is truly wise can tell you, those who do not learn from the past are bound to repeat it.  Like most Erudites, he suffers from an inflated ego.  It is unfortunate that he is right often enough to maintain such arrogance.</p><p>I get a real kick out of playing my half elf rogue.  He grew up on the streets of Freeport, a [Removed for Content] child, never knew his father, and his mother died when he was young.  He is a talented rogue, but not phenomonally so.  He's good enough to survive well in Freeport, since his survival has depended on the skills he developed.  He's a flirt, and like to argue for the sake of arguing.  Has problem with authority.  I like playing him because there are many things about him that are so NOT me, heh.</p><p>Nothing beats playing my gnome.  His descendants were followers of Bertoxxulous, he has some loyalties to both Bertox and Brell.  Very fond of the drink.  A skilled chemist and inventor, in fact, he simply LOVES to tinker.  He's very anti-social.  People tend to get on his nerves, and are way too noisy for him.  He lives in Qeynos, so he won't have to worry about the Overlord's goons looking over his shoulder.  He's a skilled warlock, partially by talent, and partially because he simply enjoys the craft.  The only reason he goes adventuring is so he can try out his latest creations.</p><p>Heh.  For me, it's not about one story...it's about all of them <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Sarkoris wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Alright I'll make this easier - which race are "you" passionate about and why. Which race annoys the hell out of you if any.</p><p>Opinions are welcome - does looks come into it, you just like the races back story or its suits your playstyle ie dont like large races as you find them awkward to play etc.</p><p>Sark.</p></blockquote>Humans. I've always played a human monk, and I always will. We've been through so much over the last 500 years, yet we adapt to change faster than anyone else. The Combine Empire, greatest empire to ever exist on Norrath, was created by Humans. Sadly, it disappeared just as quickly as it came, and it's one of the cooler mysteries to learn about on Norrath.

[Daine]

    I've always felt a particular appeal for half-elves.  My first character in every game tends to be a half elf naturey type.  D&D was a half elf druid, EQ is a half elf ranger, and EQ2 is a half elf fury.  I guess it's probably b/c it's the race that most fits me IRL...shortish, body frames and looks range, and they try their best to prove themselves both to society and themselves.  They have no society of people like them, and they play a part in almost all lore but have no lore of their own.  They can range from noble to rogue, evil to good.      I think it would be really cool if in ANY game or system something big would happen with the half elves...a rebellion, a commune, one becomes queen due to royal blood from both elves and humans, etc.  Also it would be cool if we saw some that weren't ONLY half elf half human, but like kerran-elf (would be really uber hot lol) or dwarf-elf (interesting roleplay going on with the parents there hehe).  Alas such things most likely will not come to pass...b/c as usual, we simply fade into the background <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Thrizz]

<p>Of all the races, none have grabbed me like the Iksar.</p><p> I can't stand humans - not because of their looks but because I am one. I am not fond of elves... particularly because I'm not great at rping an "elegant" race. I tend to rp characters that are hardened and tough. Halflings and gnomes are out. Kerra I tried but it was boring. </p><p> Iksar stood out though, for a number of reasons. First and foremost... I've always been fond of non human looking characters. Back when I played NWN I had plans to make a lizard man on the server I was on that was producing a sequel, but when it turned out the race was unplayable I was disappointed. My character there was "Thrizzik" - a hunter that wielded a spear and killed without mercy yet held an honor about things. That was the beginning of EQ2 Thrizzik really.</p><p>I love the fact the Iksar are evil in the sense of doing whatever it takes to survive, yet good in the sense of wanting to rebuild, reunite, and get away from the Overlord. They are called evil, and maybe their actions are, but in a way I see them as the ultimate anti heroes of Everquest 2. They are evil, do evil things, yet ultimately a true Thule fearing Iksar is not about to get in line and join Lucan's conquest - they'll hate Lucan as much as they hate Bayle.... perhaps more.</p><p>Thats why I like Iksar.</p>

[teddyboy4]

Since he's talking about what race has the most fanatical player following is the Lore forum really the place for this?At first I thought the thread was about which race were the most fanatical followers of their deity, but that seems to not be the case, maybe this should be moved?

[Fellindar]

My standard character (i.e. forgotten realms) is a Half Elf Paladin of Torm (in the case of NWN paladin 4, fighter 6, champion of torm 10). I generally dont like playing humans as they are, well, too normal i guess for my liking - unless I come up with some RP difference like being a werewolf <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />I have always been a fan of tolkiens Elves, particuarly those of Rivendel and I suppose initialy when I joined EQ1 the High Elves reminded me most of them. Once I started getting into Everquest's lore I enjoyed the High Elves all the more. I like the dark elf creation story and High Elven heroes like 'The Three' as well as the ongoing warring between the races. They have a keen desire for order and working for the greater good, so are generally benevolant and can appear arrogant but only because their Tunare's first and they know it =PAs for a race I cant stand, the rats - do not appeal to me at all, mainly because they are rats.

[Amphibia]

<cite>Sarkoris wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Alright I'll make this easier - which race are "you" passionate about and why. Which race annoys the hell out of you if any.</p><p>Opinions are welcome - does looks come into it, you just like the races back story or its suits your playstyle ie dont like large races as you find them awkward to play etc.</p><p>Sark.</p></blockquote>Frogloks is my favourite. I'm no lore expert, so it was mostly about the looks for me. I like them because I think they're funny, different and cute with those big eyes and a friendly looking faces. And they don't run like other races do, they hop! Ratonga is also a cool race, but alas... wrong side. If there were no frogloks though, I would probably have made one of these instead and betrayed to Qeynos. I don't like playing on the "evil" side. Another favourite would be the high elves. I guess I'm another Tolkien-fan who prefer elves to be tall and elegant, not like the super-shortie dwarf-version of wood elves and dark elves in this game. Annoying races... hmm, none really. But I'm not a huge fan of erudites. They look a little out of place I think, as if they'd fit better in a sci-fi mmo as some alien race. Remind me the most of something called "techno-mages" in a sci-fi television show I saw many years ago....

[Rainmare]

the High Elves. I have always played one in any and every game that I can, and usually a Paladin. I enjoy them not only because of thier looks, but thier story. the high elves are elegant, graceful, and arrogant, but not without reason. I like that if you call out an elf on that, they can literally list off reasons why they are better than you. the high elves are nature lovers but work around nature, not so much with it. they use stone and marble in thier cities, and New Tunaria is a breathtaking example of elven craft. (depsite the horrible, horrible butchery of lore they used to turn it into a 'dungeon'<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but they are still wise and generous. a elf will help anyone that asks for it, if they can stomach how much we'll let them know thier inferiority. after all, your asking me for help, aren't you?a high elf to me in the incarnation of King Arthur's court. they have the wisdom and nobility of arthur, as affluent in magic as merlin, they have guineverre's love and grace, they can match the entire round table in swordplay, and still have the pride of Lancelot.the race I can't stand however, are trolls. they just seem so...redundant to me. thier basically Ogres with a different skin. thier big and stinky, just like ogres. thier not very bright, just like ogres. They'll eat anything, just like ogres, the love to fight with everyone, just like ogres. about the only difference is ogres use armor and weapons, and trolls prefer leather and their bare hands and teeth. i mean if there were no trolls, I doubt anyone would miss them.

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>Except the ogres of EQ2 are not the stupid oafs they were in EQ.  The ogres of EQ2 have a very military mindset.  They eat, drink, and breathe battle.  Their minds are calculating, analytical, strategic, and pragmatic.  Imagine the Erudite gift for magic, only now it's a gift for warfare.</p><p>Trolls are beasts.  That's honestly a reason I like them.  Where high elves and erudites are ruled by logic and reason, trolls are ruled by pure instinct.  Trolls have no higher reason for being cruel, it's simply built into them.  They are adept at torture not because they have artists who have studied the practice for ages, but because Cazic-Thule likes his creations to strike fear into the hearts of others.  I don't know about you, but I would never want to see a troll in a dark alley.  Hell, I'd never want to see one in a bright parkway!  A troll would give anyone around it the heebie-jeebies.  It's a shame most people play like their some dumb oafs.  They may be dumb oafs, but you never know when one might snap, and eat whatever is closest to it...</p><p>Sort of ironic that the two races I like the most are erudites and trolls, heh.</p>

[Illmarr]

<p>I've always had an affinity for Barbarians, and further for Tribunal worshipping Barbarians. Before I knew anything about anything in EQ1 I was a Barbarian Shaman of the Tribunal and everything was in Justice's name. In EQ2 the character I feel most comfortable and natural r/ping is a Barbarian monk that just has never felt comfortable with the teachings of Quellious no matter how hard they tried to.</p><p>After that I like Trolls. Had a Troll Beastlord guilty pleasure twink in EQ1, and have a Troll Defiler in EQ2. Very simple in purpose and fanatical of Cazic, though not the sharpest tools in the shed. They might try and make a meal out of a kill before thinking to loot it.</p><p>Last I like is surprisingly the Fae. It's totally different from anything else I ever played, and actually worshipping Tunare after spending years mocking her followers that could not wipe themselves without her blessing has made me definately stretch my thinking.</p><p>I have a Guildie that plays his Ogre as a simple dunce. Makes me want to reach through the screen and strangle him at times, but I guess that even with the curse lifted there has to be room for all ranges of behavior. I mean, not everyone is up to their races standards, right?</p>

[Jindrack]

<p>From what I've seen, Dark Elves and Iksar have the most fanatical players championing their race.  </p><p>Second tier would be Ratonga, Halflings, Gnomes, and Dwarves.  Hmmm... all shorties...</p>

[tashanin]

<cite>Jindrack wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>From what I've seen, Dark Elves and Iksar have the most fanatical players championing their race.  </p><p>Second tier would be Ratonga, Halflings, Gnomes, and Dwarves.  Hmmm... all shorties...</p></blockquote>FROGLOK!!!!!We are the master race, or should be if it wasn't other non-froglok races keeping the frog down!

[Araxes]

I can't believe no one has said Ratonga yet!  Wow.You haven't lived until you've been in a guild that is nearly all rats.  THAT is fanaticism.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Felipe]

GNOMES!Gnomercy!Go Gnome Or Go Home!GNOMEPOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We just rule, have since '99!

[troodon]

He's right, the correct answer is Iksar <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[ratdeath]

<b>Yous all be wrongs!!It be the bests Ratonga ofcourses!!SQUEEK!!!</b>I bought EQ2 because of ratonga, I have only ratonga on my account <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />The best race in any MMO so far...I salute EQ2 design team for putting them into the game<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Mary the Prophetess]

The Ratonga, (I feel), were a plus from an roleplay point-of-view.  Even in game their personality is portrayed as similar to the Kender with a slightly 'darker' twist.

[KBern]

<cite>Jindrack wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>From what I've seen, Dark Elves and Iksar have the most fanatical players championing their race.  </p><p>Second tier would be Ratonga, Halflings, Gnomes, and Dwarves.  Hmmm... all shorties...</p></blockquote><p>Thats what I was going to say were my top two.</p><p>Looking at it from a perspective of once you make one in a game, you will usually make another.</p>

[XStatik]

I was a huge Iksar fan from EQ1, but I just don't care for them as much in EQ2. I understand that the art team of EQ2 took a different approach to the iksar, but I just can't play one now. Something just looks too far off from my expectation for me to view it as the same race. I can't nail it down, but it drives me nuts. I think I just looked at the pre-Luclin EQ1 Iksar for too long, lol.I originally played EQ2 with a few friends who wanted to be goody-goodies, and I never really felt a fanatical attachment towards any of those races... but I've recently rediscovered the game after a long hiatus. Free to once more be evil, and needing a new race to slip into, I've discovered the Ratonga...  They're shorties, they're crafty, sneaky, deceptive, and they love them some shinies. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />Although, I'm starting to like the Arasai a lot. Talky-meat has become one of my new favorite labels. I was hoping if I did enough Arasai quests I would get it as a prefix title, but no luck yet.The Othmir were badass too... they need to be playable. Someone get on that.

[Leatherneck]

<cite>troodon wrote:</cite><blockquote>He's right, the correct answer is Iksar <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>Iksar are the only people in the game.  Everyone else is either food or a pet.

[Cusashorn]

Yeah keep talking, handbag.

[Leatherneck]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah keep talking, handbag.</blockquote>You're alright Cushashorn.  Nothing wrong with you that a good marinade couldn't fix.

[thefaithf]

I've been RPing a dwarf and I gotta say it's really fun to run around, drunk and semi-belligerent, with an accent.  Been having a great time doing it and he's a devout worshipper of Brell.  I get pretty fanatical about this character after I've had a few beers too.

[Chronicle]

<p>Iksar, hands down - they have a really rich history.. mostly of terrible suffering.. and I found it very easy to feel for them. I also see much more camaraderie between Iksar players in game than among any other race. It is a very rare thing (for me at least) to encounter an other Iksar player who will not RP.</p><p>I know alot of people say Dark Elf.. but in my experience many of them just chose the inkies because they think they are teh sex and like the idea that they can be their normal obnoxious selves and play it off as "roleplaying" <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> That is to say, they are fanatical about aspects of the Dark Elf race (looks, attitude), not the race as a whole (lore)</p><p>It took me a little bit to get into the Iksar in EQ2. I didn't like what had been done to them story-wise, and the new look took some getting used to. Though I still dont care for the spindly arms and legs they gave the females.. to me they look frail.</p>

[Laithi]

My first and foremost would be Iksar.  Hands down the best RP race there is....I mean come on we eat all that moves...you are food or Iksar there is no other choice.Second would be my Dorf..Paladin of Brell....that hates High Elves, Wood Elves, halflings, and froglocks and blames them all for the fall of Kaladim (in the process of betrayal).Then the last would have to be Dark Elf....just cuz they are so much fun. Why the hell would I want to RP a goodie when I have to be good in RL....this is an escape so if I am going to escape I will escape it all.

[Vollux]

Is it just me or does every Ratonga Jump nonstop.

[Amphibia]

<cite>Zilkil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>My first and foremost would be Iksar.  Hands down the best RP race there is....I mean come on we eat all that moves...you are food or Iksar there is no other choice.</blockquote>.... I'm not an expert, but I thought the Iksars were a little more refined than that.  This sounds more like the description of a troll. Iksars are well known for other forms of evil and cruelty though, such as torture, slavery etc...

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Amphibia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zilkil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>My first and foremost would be Iksar.  Hands down the best RP race there is....I mean come on we eat all that moves...you are food or Iksar there is no other choice.</blockquote>.... I'm not an expert, but I thought the Iksars were a little more refined than that.  This sounds more like the description of a troll. Iksars are well known for other forms of evil and cruelty though, such as torture, slavery etc...</blockquote>Yeah. Iksar don't eat anything that moves. Thats the Trolls. They eat anything whether it moves or not.

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>I remember when RoK came out for EQ, one of the advantages to iksar was that they had an innate forage skill of around 50.  Some of the things they could forage were various beetles, and such..I believe the reasons given for this were along the lines of them being taught from a young age to be able to live off the land, if need be.  I also remember that one of the cheaper foods you could buy in Cabilis were misquito rations...made from misquitoes (I think you might have collected the parts for one of the guards, it's been a very long time, though, so I could be wrong).</p><p>To me, it simply goes along with who the iksar are...essentially..smarter, smaller, scaled trolls.</p>

[ratdeath]

<cite>Vollux wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is it just me or does every Ratonga Jump nonstop.</blockquote>Squeek!!I guess it's because the sound we sometimes make when jumping!

[Zagbab_Dorfbasher]

If this was still pre-Luclin EQ I would say Trolls, hands down, they were just so cute and cuddly and wonderfull to roleplay. I played a playboy Troll Shaman and got quite a bit of action in my days (a Troll that used shrink, which was a shammy spell, was just like having a puppy, all the chicks came flocking hehe). But after the Trolls were ruined by going on a collective diet I just lost interest.I realy love the Iksar, they look awesome and have a realy nice history. But the char I play now is a half elf. It would have been a human if they didn't look so terribly... well... uhm... UGLY, in original models (if I play a non monster race I like my character to resemble me, and well, I have eyebrows, don't constantly suck on lemons and don't wear a plastic wig). I don't like elves at all but half elves are ok I guess, they are not total sissys hehe.If I played on a more RP oriented server I would probably be an Iksar or a Ratonga (I love the addition of Ratongas in EQ2) since they simply rock, they both look cool/cute and would be a ton of fun to RP.Hehe, and for those that reffer to numbers saying that most play elves, well first of all there are 4! elven races (if you include half elves), and secondly, practicaly all bot farmers play high elves, and we all know how many bots there are <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Caethre]

<p><span style="color: #ff6600;">OOC.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">There are indeed, as some have said here, a considerable number of iksar and teir'dal who are quite fanatical about their own kind. However, creatures made as a mockery of the perfect race are not fit to exist at all, and as for the lizards, the rest of us know they are best served as raw material for making footwear and carrying containers.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">And yes, there are those of some of the tiny races who make some noise (mostly squeaking or or such), but again, it is just noise, with no content and nothing worth listening too.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">The only people worthy of being revered are the Koada`Dal. As Tunare's firstborn, all others look up to them (well those wise enough to, at least). Truthfully, there is considerably less fanatacism about our people, but then again, when one wants to shout about being the best, one makes a lot of noise, but if one already actually is the most advanced, cultured and elevated, one doesn't need so much noise, does one?</span></p><p><cite>Zagbab_Dorfbasher wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Hehe, and for those that refer to numbers saying that most play elves, well first of all there are 4! elven races (if you include half elves), and secondly, practicaly all bot farmers play high elves, and we all know how many bots there are <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Incorrect. It is a well-known "fact", that 92% of all bots are Erudite casters on carpets, monopolizing various islands in Barren Sky.</span></p>

[Killerbee3000]

Dark elves and Ratongas are the only races that exist in eq2... period.. (ohh. wait, ther are also the ones we always use to blame for everything, they are called gnomes)

[Nahlis]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah. Iksar don't eat anything that moves. Thats the Trolls. They eat anything whether it moves or not.</blockquote>Dat so not true.  Dem be jus nasty rumorz.  Dere be many tings meez not eatz.  *hold up one finger*  Dere be.... *pauses, opens his mouth, closes it again and finally glares*  Yuuz lookin tastiez....

[Leatherneck]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amphibia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zilkil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>My first and foremost would be Iksar.  Hands down the best RP race there is....I mean come on we eat all that moves...you are food or Iksar there is no other choice.</blockquote>.... I'm not an expert, but I thought the Iksars were a little more refined than that.  This sounds more like the description of a troll. Iksars are well known for other forms of evil and cruelty though, such as torture, slavery etc...</blockquote>Yeah. Iksar don't eat anything that moves. Thats the Trolls. They eat anything whether it moves or not.</blockquote>Part of the "eat anything that moves" interpretation comes from the RoK (EQ1) strat guide.  On the section about Iksar, in the part where it talks on forage it says something like "Iksar aren't so picky about what they eat".  That said, I see my boys more like Hannibal Lector than the Tazmanian Devil. :p

[Axxon]

<cite>Felishanna@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">A load of ridiculous Koadda propaganda.</span></p></blockquote><p>What the lightbringer is forgetting is that the Teir'Dal are the perfection...the evolution of Tunare's weak attempt at creating a worth race.  Innoruuk in his infinite wisdom saw fit to mold us into something better and to infuse us with Hatred and zealotry for our god and our people unmatched in all of Norrath.  The true faithful of Innoruuk - those Teir'Dal who worship him and serve his Purpose and Will - are the most zealous adherents to their deity.  Shadowknight and Inquisitor Teir'Dal, of course, being the most fanatical of <i>that </i>sub set.  Now...tunarian scum...crawl back to your girl queen and your complacent god.  </p><p><img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Killerbee3000]

<cite>Korsh@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah. Iksar don't eat anything that moves. Thats the Trolls. They eat anything whether it moves or not.</blockquote>Dat so not true.  Dem be jus nasty rumorz.  Dere be many tings meez not eatz.  *hold up one finger*  Dere be.... *pauses, opens his mouth, closes it again and finally glares*  Yuuz lookin tastiez....</blockquote>strict gnome diet?<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Amphibia]

<cite>Axxon@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Felishanna@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">A load of ridiculous Koadda propaganda.</span></p></blockquote><p>What the lightbringer is forgetting is that the Teir'Dal are the perfection...the evolution of Tunare's weak attempt at creating a worth race.  Innoruuk in his infinite wisdom saw fit to mold us into something better and to infuse us with Hatred and zealotry for our god and our people unmatched in all of Norrath.  The true faithful of Innoruuk - those Teir'Dal who worship him and serve his Purpose and Will - are the most zealous adherents to their deity.  Shadowknight and Inquisitor Teir'Dal, of course, being the most fanatical of <i>that </i>sub set.  Now...tunarian scum...crawl back to your girl queen and your complacent god.  </p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></p></blockquote>Ahem...IC:My, my.... what do we have here? A lone follower of Innoruuk, defending his ways? Poor child. It is not your fault, though. You have been used, just like the rest of them. Admit it, and you'll feel better. Not that it would change much else. I wish I could tell you that there may still be hope for you and your kind, but I fear it is too late...<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />((I thought I recognized you..... weren't you in FVC?  *waves* ))

[Axxon]

((Yep - Brogan O'Toole :p   But I went back to my ebul ways.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  ))

[3ofme]

<p>To me the Tier'dal are the most facinating race on Norrath. The inate evilness of the race is a draw for me. From my very first day on EQ1 and running thru Neriak as a lvl 1 Necro to EQ2, I have played them and I think the devs from then to now have done a great job keeping the race on that course with little to no deviation. I am probably missing a few things but here is some of the events we have made a major impact on.</p><p>Combine empire = fractured over whether we should be in it or not</p><p>Tree city of woody's taken over by little flying butterflys due to us wiping out the woody's.</p><p>High elves = food for vamps after we detroyed thier king and made them question the race's path.</p><p>Little flying butterfly's made into evil flying butterfly's as we twisted thier little hearts to evil.</p><p>Iskar now follow a long dead emperor who made a deal with our god becuase he realized we are destined to rule the world and wanted to get on the winning team.</p><p>I have probably missed alot more stuff in the Lore</p>

[steelblueangel]

<p>Ratonga is my favorite of all the races, because.... well they are just so darned cute. I love to hear them talk and hear them squeek when they jump. The ratonga's also make the funniest sounds during battle. </p><p>Ratongas can stand in the shadow of an ogre for shade and fit into the smallest of nooks to avoid detection. Ratongas are light and fast of thier feet allowing them to quickly scurry away or to sneak through a guarded passage. The ratonga is curious in nature; thus, thier adventures carry them far from home and the safety of thier packs. The ratonga love the shinys, "oh yis" they truly do, unfortunately, many a ratonga have fallen prey to traps in an attempt to harvest those much desired and precious treasures. </p><p>And did I mention that the ratonga's are just so darned cute?  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<cite>3ofme wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Iskar now follow a long dead emperor who made a deal with our god becuase he realized we are destined to rule the world and wanted to get on the winning team.</p></blockquote><p>Venril Sathir making a pact with Innoruuk had much, much, much less to do with the Tier'Dal, than it did with Venril wanting to live forever.  Venril simply talked to the man who could make it happen.  Once he was a lich, he still slaughtered any Teir'Dal that crossed his path.</p><p>What I'd love to see is Venril (undead lich) vs Cristanos (super powerful necro).  That would be a cool fight.  Pay-per-View, maybe?</p>

[Xdatinelia]

I think from an OOC perspective.. People who play gnomes seem to be the most rabid..

[ratdeath]

<cite>steelblueangel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ratonga is my favorite of all the races, because.... well they are just so darned cute. I love to hear them talk and hear them squeek when they jump. The ratonga's also make the funniest sounds during battle. </p><p>Ratongas can stand in the shadow of an ogre for shade and fit into the smallest of nooks to avoid detection. Ratongas are light and fast of thier feet allowing them to quickly scurry away or to sneak through a guarded passage. The ratonga is curious in nature; thus, thier adventures carry them far from home and the safety of thier packs. The ratonga love the shinys, "oh yis" they truly do, unfortunately, many a ratonga have fallen prey to traps in an attempt to harvest those much desired and precious treasures. </p><p>And did I mention that the ratonga's are just so darned cute?  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>Us is bests!! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Xdatinelia wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think from an OOC perspective.. People who play gnomes seem to be the most rabid..</blockquote>Indeed. Why does that race even exist anyway?

[Amphibia]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Xdatinelia wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think from an OOC perspective.. People who play gnomes seem to be the most rabid..</blockquote>Indeed. Why does that race even exist anyway?</blockquote>Because it is nice to have someone to blame for everything.... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Amphibia]

<cite>Nocturnal Abyss wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>3ofme wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Iskar now follow a long dead emperor who made a deal with our god becuase he realized we are destined to rule the world and wanted to get on the winning team.</p></blockquote><p>Venril Sathir making a pact with Innoruuk had much, much, much less to do with the Tier'Dal, than it did with Venril wanting to live forever.  Venril simply talked to the man who could make it happen.  Once he was a lich, he still slaughtered any Teir'Dal that crossed his path.</p><p>What I'd love to see is Venril (undead lich) vs Cristanos (super powerful necro).  That would be a cool fight.  Pay-per-View, maybe?</p></blockquote>I'm sure this Venril fellow would make a nice pet for Cristanos..... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />(sorry couldn't help it)

[Rainmare]

I think Venril might be a little too powerful for Cristanos. after all, Venril's people learned necromancy through the supposed first race to discover it, the Shissar. I bet there's a few tricks venril might know that were supposedly 'lost to time' before the Tier'dal got ahold of it.One I would really like to see though is Cristanos vs Soulfire wielding Lich Lucan. as a live event, just so I can see her charm his [Removed for Content] and make him kneel at her feet.

[Wilde_Night]

<p>See, that whole "first race to discover necromancy" thing has flip-flopped in the lore so many times.</p><p>First the Teir'Dal were, which was stolen by the Erudites.. then the Iksar come along and claim they discovered it first.  Who cares?</p><p>Me, I play mostly Teir'Dal.  I like them because they are not the stupid evil of the D&D dark elves.  They were created to be the ultimate master race by a jealous god who was not invited to the "populate Norrath party" and thusly took all the best of the 'perfect' race created by Tunare and made better, stronger, smarter, evil.  They are the evil million dollar elves.</p><p>Most annoying race?  Halflings.  Pecks were never meant to be heros, they are traditionally lazy, fat and prefer to stay in their own little area.  I hate the LotR franchise because of that too.  </p><p>Second most annoying... Iksar if they insist on lisping.  Iksar should not lisp.  They have normal tongues.  Why do most NPC Iksars lisp?!</p>

[einar4]

<p> To add to the confusion, remember that the gnomes independently "discovered" necromancy also.  As a woodelf that ventured into Ak'anon a long time ago,  I learned that the hard way when a clockwork with the necromancy faction began to beat the crud out of me. </p><p> The teir'dal were created to be a wrench in the works of the other gods, to help destroy all of the races as Innoruuk's revenge for being left out and not allowed to create a race of his own on Norrath.  The original lore makes known that they were the "Seeds of his vengeance."  Innoruuk could have cared less about them being some master race.  He wants all the races to wipe themselves out and the Teir'dal were a tool to facilitate that.  </p><p><b><i>In a decrepit tower overlooking the dark decaying alleys of the Plane over which he ruled, Innoruuk waited, stoking the fire of his Hate until it was a raging inferno. He cursed his fellow gods for not including him in their pact and vowed to make them regret such disrespect. From the halls of the Elves' fair city, Takish-Hiz, the Prince of Hate snatched away the first Elven King and Queen. In his realm of pain and anger he slowly tore them apart, physically and mentally, over the course of three hundred years. He then gathered the quivering remnants of these beings of light and rebuilt them into his own dark sadistic image, a twisted mockery of Tunare's noble children. In depositing the Teir'Dal, as Innoruuk's Dark Elven creations would come to be called, back into the Underfoot of Norrath, the seeds for The Prince of Hate's final revenge were sown.</i></b> </p><p> The iksar have the hiss because they do not have lips.  Having rigid labia makes consonant sounds more difficult.  </p><p> Actually I think gnomes would be the most difficult to play and stay true to lore.  They are half crazy and on such a completely different wave-length from the rest of Norrath.   A hilarious example is the Remmy Fulgation quest, where you have to go through a lot of nonsensical indirection to figure out where he ran off to.   Small wonder why people always want to punt them.  </p>

[Rainmare]

Iksar lips is because they don't have normal tongues. other than having hands and feet, and standing upright like a human, the iksar are entirely reptilian. or maybe it's because if they do have the same tongue, it's about as wide as your hand, and has a bit of trouble with the slight movements a human tongue makes. judging by the shape of thier heads though, I'd say it's a reptilian tongue.thier head from an above view is a triangle...makes sense that thier tongue gets smaller as it reaches thier teeth in the front, with would give it that 'reptile' shape, right?

[Illmarr]

Gnomes are so misunderstood because all the other races of Norrath are such linear thinkers, whereas the vastness of the Gnome intellect allows them the leisure to explore tangents that the rest of the races with lesser gifts have to ignore or be overwhelmed. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Nocturnal Aby]

<cite>Ilmaaaaah@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Gnomes are so misunderstood because all the other races of Norrath are such linear thinkers, whereas the vastness of the Gnome intellect allows them the leisure to explore tangents that the rest of the races with lesser gifts have to ignore or be overwhelmed. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Hahahahahahahahahaha</p><p><img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Admittedly, I love gnomes.  And I love my gnome.  He's absolutely a gas to rp <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cusashorn]

Yeah but why do they have to be so ugly? Just thier physical appearance has annoyed me ever since EQlive when the character models were riddled with Paulsey. They couldn't turn thier necks. They had to do it at the waist.

[Senliten]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah but why do they have to be so ugly? Just thier physical appearance has annoyed me ever since EQlive when the character models were riddled with Paulsey. They couldn't turn thier necks. They had to do it at the waist.</blockquote>Hehe dont know about you.. but I want meh pointy ears back for pete sake from the gnomes in EqLive =( Always loved when someone did in emote's to tweak my ears let alone put odd things back in kunark days. Was just to cute and let alnoe the comments back then on my chracter and my real personality.. pricless ^_^Sad enough pull up to present day.. gnomes lost there cuteness and ear tweaked lovers... and ive gone from let alone a person to show concern to more of the "Tough. get over" and "Am i Doing this always just for others... madness" personality... meh guess it came with the job/hobby i enjoy

[Duboir]

Apologies for semi-double posting but I just can't help myself. I read page after page of fools trying to show the greatness of the lesser races. Dark Elves are twisted mutations of the beautiful High Elves. Arasai are the twisted creations of a twisted creation. Sarnak, iksar, kerran, gnolls, all mutations. Tunare, blessings upon her, Brell, Vee'shan and Prexus are the only creator gods. All else merely twist and deform.<div>The Norrathians for the Ethical Treatment of High Elves believe that it is only just and fair that the High Elves are placed once again on the pedestal as the greatest of the Norrathian races. We are the most beautiful, most graceful, most elegant and most importantly, pure race. Enough is enough. It is time for all those true to the Koada'dal to band together and fight the inspid whimperings of fools and imbeciles that suggest that any race can be considered greater, purer or more beautiful than the Koada'dal.</div><div></div><div>I call upon all of those Koada'dal who have been insulted for their beautiful tresses, their graceful builds and their much deserved self-image to rise up and defend our heritage.</div>

[Piratejoe]

<p>If what your asking is what player base loves their Race the most, not what race has the most followers, or what god has the most followers then I'd say Trolls.</p><p> Why Trolls?</p><p>1. Their very underpopulated, I'll give you that.</p><p>2. Their Not the most lore wise most fanatical about their gods as their split between Cazak and Inth. </p><p> So why trolls? Players that play trolls dont do it out of love of their cute women, their pretty starting zones (sniff), being the best warrior statwise (Ogres beat us their) or any other slew of reasons. We play trolls because we love our Ugly floppy eared Hehe meat eating Trolls. </p>

[Gisallo]

<p>In character of course <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" Sorry for the length, Gisallo Penitent Son can be a rather philosophical Ranger.  Perhaps he has spent to much time alone in the wilderness <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"</p><p>Of course this is a conversation with little purpose, but as a categorical answer is required I will try.  All of the races truly "created" by the gods; Tunare (may she guide my arrow true), the Marr Twins, Vee Shan, Prexus and Brell, are worthy races as they are reflections (no matter how imperfect we are) of the divine.  However when forced to chose I must of course say Feir'Dal.  Of the children of Tunare we truly understand our place and purpose in the great scheme of growth.  We understand that nature and the power of growth is not only to be used for our benefit, but also husbanded for all.  We also understand that even when a race is not a child of the Mother, they are a people learn, expand, and evolve.  Even when created by another god they are also expressions of Growth and thus of the great scheme of Tunare the Mother, so we welcome all who are of true heart and spirit with a smile and call of "well met".</p><p>When the Teir'Dal came to Faydwer we fought not only to defend our own home but Felwith as well.  We will always stand by our Koada'Dal brothers and sisters as we are both children of Tunare (may she guide my path clear of danger).  Tunare loves all of her children with equal vigor and so we endevour to follow this same path to show we are truly worthy of her love.  Even when these brother's and sisters would omit our assistance from their history we will stand by them because we are all equal in the Mother's love.  Even now as "New Tunaria" stands in the shadow of Mistmoor, simple proof of what a peoples' arrogance, even when they are born of a blessed creation can bring forth.  We stand in sadness at the fall of our brothers and sisters and seek a way to free them from the yoke of shadow.</p><p>After the War of the Fay, before we had finished rebuilding our own homes we heard the call of Tunaria, now Antonica.   Perhaps the land is now justly named as we moved on and the humans made it the land of hope which it now is.  There again we fought with limbs already weary from war and then helped rebuild, even though many of us became exiles from our own homes.</p><p>We brought forth the Faydark Champions, the first Druids, the first understanding by a mortal perople of what it is to be a PART of nature, not simply a user of it and thus a true child of of the Mother.  To be a true child is to learn your parent's lessons and embody them.  To live them, not simply shout to all that can hear that you are their child.  We have this strength, this devotion, this knowledge of our place, this history and yet we still have a humility an openness with other peoples that many other races lack.  For all races have strength, devotion, knowledge, history, but how many also hold out an open hand to all who approach without darkness in their hearts?  How else can we continue to embody the glorious purpose of Tunare, without being able to look the other peoples of light in the eye and say "well met, I am Gisallo Penitent Son, a son of Kelethin and Ranger of Tunare (may she free my heart from doubt).  Perhaps I have something to teach you?  I know you have something I can learn."  For it is not only by teaching others your own ways, but by being willing to learn the ways of others that you grow within.  The purpose of Tunare is not so narrow as to only encompass the growth of the body, but also the mind and the spirit.  </p><p>I hope that one day all of the children of light see this final truth.  For when they do, there will truly be no "greater race".  We will all be great, in our unity of heart and purpose, and then darkness will never threaten our homes again. </p><p>May the blessings of Tunare, and the god of your creation, be upon you. </p>

[Piratejoe]

<cite>Gisallo@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In character of course <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" Sorry for the length, Gisallo Penitent Son can be a rather philosophical Ranger.  Perhaps he has spent to much time alone in the wilderness <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"</p><p>Of course this is a conversation with little purpose, but as a categorical answer is required I will try.  All of the races truly "created" by the gods; Tunare (may she guide my arrow true), the Marr Twins, Vee Shan, Prexus and Brell, are worthy races as they are reflections (no matter how imperfect we are) of the divine.  However when forced to chose I must of course say Feir'Dal.  Of the children of Tunare we truly understand our place and purpose in the great scheme of growth.  We understand that nature and the power of growth is not only to be used for our benefit, but also husbanded for all.  We also understand that even when a race is not a child of the Mother, they are a people learn, expand, and evolve.  Even when created by another god they are also expressions of Growth and thus of the great scheme of Tunare the Mother, so we welcome all who are of true heart and spirit with a smile and call of "well met".</p><p>When the Teir'Dal came to Faydwer we fought not only to defend our own home but Felwith as well.  We will always stand by our Koada'Dal brothers and sisters as we are both children of Tunare (may she guide my path clear of danger).  Tunare loves all of her children with equal vigor and so we endevour to follow this same path to show we are truly worthy of her love.  Even when these brother's and sisters would omit our assistance from their history we will stand by them because we are all equal in the Mother's love.  Even now as "New Tunaria" stands in the shadow of Mistmoor, simple proof of what a peoples' arrogance, even when they are born of a blessed creation can bring forth.  We stand in sadness at the fall of our brothers and sisters and seek a way to free them from the yoke of shadow.</p><p>After the War of the Fay, before we had finished rebuilding our own homes we heard the call of Tunaria, now Antonica.   Perhaps the land is now justly named as we moved on and the humans made it the land of hope which it now is.  There again we fought with limbs already weary from war and then helped rebuild, even though many of us became exiles from our own homes.</p><p>We brought forth the Faydark Champions, the first Druids, the first understanding by a mortal perople of what it is to be a PART of nature, not simply a user of it and thus a true child of of the Mother.  To be a true child is to learn your parent's lessons and embody them.  To live them, not simply shout to all that can hear that you are their child.  We have this strength, this devotion, this knowledge of our place, this history and yet we still have a humility an openness with other peoples that many other races lack.  For all races have strength, devotion, knowledge, history, but how many also hold out an open hand to all who approach without darkness in their hearts?  How else can we continue to embody the glorious purpose of Tunare, without being able to look the other peoples of light in the eye and say "well met, I am Gisallo Penitent Son, a son of Kelethin and Ranger of Tunare (may she free my heart from doubt).  Perhaps I have something to teach you?  I know you have something I can learn."  For it is not only by teaching others your own ways, but by being willing to learn the ways of others that you grow within.  The purpose of Tunare is not so narrow as to only encompass the growth of the body, but also the mind and the spirit.  </p><p>I hope that one day all of the children of light see this final truth.  For when they do, there will truly be no "greater race".  We will all be great, in our unity of heart and purpose, and then darkness will never threaten our homes again. </p><p>May the blessings of Tunare, and the god of your creation, be upon you. </p></blockquote><p>My Trolls response too all this is..</p><p>Hippie <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p> But its ok, Trolls are equal oppurtunity chefs, mmm Treehugger soup</p>

[Gisallo]

<cite>Piratejoe wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My Trolls response too all this is..</p><p>Hippie <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p> But its ok, Trolls are equal oppurtunity chefs, mmm Treehugger soup</p></blockquote><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" hey!! I eat meat!!  I chop down the occassional tree!!  I'm no Hippie, I simply believe in the sustainable use of resources!!!!    would a hippie cry "We live for the Mother!!! we die for the Mother!!!! In Tunare's Name!!!! When he his beheading an Orc? <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[DreamerClou]

<cite>Piratejoe wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If what your asking is what player base loves their Race the most, not what race has the most followers, or what god has the most followers then I'd say Trolls.</p><p> Why Trolls?</p><p>1. Their very underpopulated, I'll give you that.</p><p>2. Their Not the most lore wise most fanatical about their gods as their split between Cazak and Inth. </p><p> So why trolls? Players that play trolls dont do it out of love of their cute women, their pretty starting zones (sniff), being the best warrior statwise (Ogres beat us their) or any other slew of reasons. We play trolls because we love our Ugly floppy eared Hehe meat eating Trolls. </p></blockquote>Please please please bring back HEHE meat.  EQ2 NEEDS hehe meat!

[Gukkor2]

I'm a pretty big froglok fanatic in EQ1, but I'm much less so in EQ2.  The froglok design lost a certain element of coolness in the translation from the former to the latter.  My main over here is an Iksar.

[TheLopper]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm a pretty big froglok fanatic in EQ1, but I'm much less so in EQ2.  The froglok design lost a certain element of coolness in the translation from the former to the latter.  My main over here is an Iksar.</blockquote>How ironic.

[Amphibia]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm a pretty big froglok fanatic in EQ1, but I'm much less so in EQ2.  The froglok design lost a certain element of coolness in the translation from the former to the latter.  My main over here is an Iksar.</blockquote>Omg, I couldn't disagree more! I love the cute, little Guktan frogloks in EQ2 and I don't think I'd play a frog if they looked like those oversized green monsters from EQ1.

[Sylaz]

I'm a huge fan of the Iksar, they quite possibly the most detailed backstory of all the races. I think that's due in part to the fact that they were so isolated, and "confined" to Kunark, so most of their history takes place with them as one large group, making it easier than say humans, who were just about everywhere on Norrath.Although, I'm not a big fan of what's been done to them in EQ2, as a true fan I will stick by them and hope things improve a bit (possibly with skeletal revamp).I really enjoyed the original Iksar look, something between a lizard, and a dragon, it really fit the race for me. Then when Luclin came along, well we all know what happened to them there, and if you don't, consider yourself lucky. Now we have them here in EQ2, looking much more lizard-like, and lacking that dragon quality that made them so awesome back in the old days of EQlive. And that's just the males, don't even get me started on the females.I'm also not a fan of the hiss given to them by the voice actors. If I'm not mistaken there was an Iksar in EQ1 (who in text only of course) had a hiss, and he specifically referred to it as a speech impediment, asking you not to make fun of him for it. I know that biologically it makes sense for them to have something of a hiss, but that's applying real work logic to a fantasy setting, and you just can't do that.Finally, just to throw it out there, I want my Iksar only Kunark city back! I don't care where it is, but I want it.