Soloing Kaladim Queen

[Eviljoe2]

<p>I had seen in a mage forum about them soloing the queen in Kaladim, but did not see any posts of a Necro doing it.</p><p>I was wondering if any of you have done this and if so...what was your method.</p><p>I have lifeburn and tainted heal AAs as well as the line that has implode.</p><p>I have tried to solo her before but did not get very far.  The adds around her seem to do quite a bit of damage.  I have not tried it in quite a while, but want to go in and try it tonight.</p><p> Thx for any help.</p>

[Oriax]

<p>I solo that named regularly with my necro. The key to killing that whole mob is to not use any Temporary Pets, EAOE (Encoutner Area of Effect) or any PBAOE (Point Blank Area of Effect) damage. Use you direct damage spells only. I have Tainted Heals (TH's) and also Perceptors Command (PC). I send the pet in on the Queen to kill her first but I do not use any spells or abilities at all until my pet has lost about half of it's health. I always target through my pet. Then I'll use PC and start with TH's until my pets health is regained. From here while still targeting through my pet I use only my direct damage lifetap and dot's with a couple seconds gap between spells cast. I use a TH's spell when needed and use PC as soon as it recharges (every 10 seconds). With this method I very rarely draw any aggro from one of Slithis adds. If one aggro's you, you should still be able to survive. Also you can still use PC while you have the stun effect on you. If you have anymore questions or if something above is unclear feel free to ask.</p><p>Edited: Slithe to Slithis so that is the correct mob name.</p>

[Eviljoe2]

<p>Thank-you for that detailed guide.</p><p>I think it will be very helpful to me.</p><p>The one thing I am not sure on (and I feel very stupid about) is PC or Preceptor's Command.  I think this is an AA and I do not believe I have it.  I am not even sure what it does and was not able to find much info about it online.</p><p>If I do not have it, is it worth respec'ing my AAs to get it? If so, what should I lose, implode I am guessing and that may be my only option.</p><p>Thanks</p>

[Sarkoris]

<p>PC is like a mini rescue for your tank pet. Its hasd a chance to bump them aggro position and increase threat by a good amount.</p><p>As far as respec goes that is one option, but I believe it was announced in ROK that we will get the ability to store 2 AA configurations (changable at a house item). This would allow you to have your current setup (I presume for raiding) and another one with a solo config.</p><p>Sark.</p>

[Oriax]

Well it's not really a must have AA ability I don''t guess but it is useful for solo reasons. I only have it since I went down the STA and WIS lines to buff my tank pet. You should still be able to fight the Queen as I described but you may need to be a little more careful than I am with your DPS as to not draw aggro.

[Eviljoe2]

<p>Well,</p><p>I tried it last night and it was not good.</p><p>I did not draw aggro, but even with tainted heals, I could not keep pet healed.  I already had all my TH spells greyed out and had used my healing staff and tank pet just kept losing health too fast.  I am not even sure he took out any of the mobs before falling.</p><p>I had heard that the queen spawns at different levels, if that is the case, do her helpers adjust in level as well?</p><p>I want to try again tonight, but not sure what to do different.</p>

[Oriax]

Yes the whole encounter always spawns as the same level. So far I have seen her spawn in the level 60-66 range. There are 5 different manipulations spells make sure you are using them all. There are also 2 of them that you can cancel directly after casting and reuse. Those are the 2 debuff ones, Drawing of Souls and Loathesome Mark.

[Eviljoe2]

<p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I did not know drawing of souls was manipulation.....hehe<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> That is one extra spell and I did not know I could cancel and re-use faster for those.</p><p>That brings me to another question.  I hear much talk of canceling dots etc...but the only way I know how is to point, right click, then select cancel, which is too time consuming in battle.   Is there a better way to cancel??</p><p>Thanks for the help.</p>

[Oriax]

I'm not sure of another way to cancel them either other than what you stated. For this Queen mob for instance, you can limit your damage to only using Death Rot and Abate Life and still survive. That way you don't have one of the longer lasting DoT's still ticking on a mob after your pet switches targets like it does with those Slithis rats. Tried this out lasst night.

[Sjonnie]

<p>actually there are 6 manipulations.</p><p>stun, root, fear, dispell, and the 2 debuffs</p>

[Za]

<cite>Sjonnie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>actually there are 6 manipulations.</p><p>stun, root, fear, dispell, and the 2 debuffs</p></blockquote><p>Almost got it right. There are 7! Stun, Fear, Root, Dispell, Drawing of souls, Loathing Mark, & <b>Necrotic Brand</b></p><p>OK, this is a trick answer.... Necrotic casts slow and has a stupid recast timer... but unlike the other spells in the list doesn't have a chance to fail! The others can all be resisted, necrotic (since its cast on your pet) always hits.</p><hr /><p>OK... back to the original question... the Kaladim queen. Short answer is that she's a freakin piece of cake based on your current build (when you posted the original). The only thing you really need is Tainted Heals. Ignore alot of stuff previously posted and just know this... You do NOT want any of her adds targetting you directly... After the queen dies it's not as big an issue, but even then it just makes life more difficult.</p><p>Pacience is your greatest virtue for this fight. Here's how I do it.</p><ul><li>Stand in the middle of the room... out of the guards range and way out of the queens range. You DO NOT want that silence to hit you... but it has a fairly short range! Just don't be near the combat area!</li><li>Send in your tank pet and DO NOT CAST ANY HIGH AGRO SPELLS. Using the info above, just target the queen and click loathing <b>twice </b>(the 2nd cast cancels the spell so the recast timer can start), dispell, then loathing again... </li><li>You now have a pet near or at 100%, the queen wounded, and becasuse you didn't cast any encounter damage spells, your pet should have very good encounter agro. So sit back for a few rotations and just keep casting loathing (cycling it off after every cast) and your pick of root & dispell. I never use the others for this kind of cycle. Drawing costs a component... Yes I have several hundred of them saved up but still, its not neccessary to use drawing. Fear moves the mob and thats always iffy with mob pathing. And I keep stun available in case of emergencies... it's way to long a recast to be effective with Tainted Heals anyway. </li><li>Once the queen's at 75% or even 80%, your tank has it owned... so go ahead and start dropping single target nukes on the queen... dogs, etc... avoid over doing the encounter agros. You really don't want any of the little adds attacking you until the queen is dead. </li><li>Once the queen dies, you can AoE the rest do oblivion... If you get silenced, have your pet target the mob on you and try to get away from it. That silence can get you killed, its the only thing in this encounter that can.</li></ul><p>Anyway... this technique is useful in almost all the boss encounters in the game. just rotating root, dispell, and Loathing(cycled), can keep your pet alive through almost any non special or epic mob encounter! Once your pet has good agro, then you can start your support DPS. As long as you keep the indirect healing up, you won't lose your pet and you won't gain agro. If you can do that you will win the fight. period.</p>

[Davngr1]

<cite>Zald wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>Anyway... this technique is useful in almost all the boss encounters in the game. just rotating root, dispell, and Loathing(cycled), can keep your pet alive through almost any non special or <b><u><i>epic</i></u></b> mob encounter! Once your pet has good agro, then you can start your support DPS. As long as you keep the indirect healing up, you won't lose your pet and you won't gain agro. If you can do that you will win the fight. period.</p></blockquote>i have never ben spec'd for tainted heals but are you sure it can keep the tank pet up thru epic encounters? 

[Norrsken]

<cite>Zald wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sjonnie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>actually there are 6 manipulations.</p><p>stun, root, fear, dispell, and the 2 debuffs</p></blockquote><p>Almost got it right. There are 7! Stun, Fear, Root, Dispell, Drawing of souls, Loathing Mark, & <b>Necrotic Brand</b></p><p>OK, this is a trick answer.... Necrotic casts slow and has a stupid recast timer... but unlike the other spells in the list doesn't have a chance to fail! The others can all be resisted, necrotic (since its cast on your pet) always hits.</p><hr /><p>OK... back to the original question... the Kaladim queen. Short answer is that she's a freakin piece of cake based on your current build (when you posted the original). The only thing you really need is Tainted Heals. Ignore alot of stuff previously posted and just know this... You do NOT want any of her adds targetting you directly... After the queen dies it's not as big an issue, but even then it just makes life more difficult.</p><p>Pacience is your greatest virtue for this fight. Here's how I do it.</p><ul><li>Stand in the middle of the room... out of the guards range and way out of the queens range. You DO NOT want that silence to hit you... but it has a fairly short range! Just don't be near the combat area!</li><li>Send in your tank pet and DO NOT CAST ANY HIGH AGRO SPELLS. Using the info above, just target the queen and click loathing <b>twice </b>(the 2nd cast cancels the spell so the recast timer can start), dispell, then loathing again... </li><li>You now have a pet near or at 100%, the queen wounded, and becasuse you didn't cast any encounter damage spells, your pet should have very good encounter agro. So sit back for a few rotations and just keep casting loathing (cycling it off after every cast) and your pick of root & dispell. I never use the others for this kind of cycle. Drawing costs a component... Yes I have several hundred of them saved up but still, its not neccessary to use drawing. Fear moves the mob and thats always iffy with mob pathing. And I keep stun available in case of emergencies... it's way to long a recast to be effective with Tainted Heals anyway. </li><li>Once the queen's at 75% or even 80%, your tank has it owned... so go ahead and start dropping single target nukes on the queen... dogs, etc... avoid over doing the encounter agros. You really don't want any of the little adds attacking you until the queen is dead. </li><li>Once the queen dies, you can AoE the rest do oblivion... If you get silenced, have your pet target the mob on you and try to get away from it. That silence can get you killed, its the only thing in this encounter that can.</li></ul><p>Anyway... this technique is useful in almost all the boss encounters in the game. just rotating root, dispell, and Loathing(cycled), can keep your pet alive through almost any non special or epic mob encounter! Once your pet has good agro, then you can start your support DPS. As long as you keep the indirect healing up, you won't lose your pet and you won't gain agro. If you can do that you will win the fight. period.</p></blockquote>8, counting charm. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Za]

<p>Really! Didn't know that, hehe. Ok, 8 then!</p><p>Albeit charm is even harder to use. I don't see myself breaking a charm just to recast it for a 13% heal... unless there's some grey undead mobs around. But dang that is alot of spells that can be used for Tainted Heals.</p>

[Za]

<cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zald wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>Anyway... this technique is useful in almost all the boss encounters in the game. just rotating root, dispell, and Loathing(cycled), can keep your pet alive through almost any non special or <b><u><i>epic</i></u></b> mob encounter! Once your pet has good agro, then you can start your support DPS. As long as you keep the indirect healing up, you won't lose your pet and you won't gain agro. If you can do that you will win the fight. period.</p></blockquote>i have never ben spec'd for tainted heals but are you sure it can keep the tank pet up thru epic encounters?  </blockquote><p>No... the non was for both special and epic. </p><p>ie... we certainly can't keep a pet up vs epic mobs... but there are some non epics that we also can't heal fast enough to kill. I think the final boss of the Bone Clasp Girdle is an example of this. At least I can't personally heal fast enough to keep a pet alive against him!</p>

[Davngr1]

<cite>Zald wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zald wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>Anyway... this technique is useful in almost all the boss encounters in the game. just rotating root, dispell, and Loathing(cycled), can keep your pet alive through almost any non special or <b><u><i>epic</i></u></b> mob encounter! Once your pet has good agro, then you can start your support DPS. As long as you keep the indirect healing up, you won't lose your pet and you won't gain agro. If you can do that you will win the fight. period.</p></blockquote>i have never ben spec'd for tainted heals but are you sure it can keep the tank pet up thru epic encounters?  </blockquote><p>No... the non was for both special and epic. </p><p>ie... we certainly can't keep a pet up vs epic mobs... but there are some non epics that we also can't heal fast enough to kill. I think the final boss of the Bone Clasp Girdle is an example of this. At least I can't personally heal fast enough to keep a pet alive against him!</p></blockquote> heh   sorry about that i read right over the <b><i><u>non</u></i></b>   : |

[Ekuthh]

<p>Okay, wow.  I just wanted to say:</p><p>THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH for explaining the Tainted Heals line and how to use it.  I primarily solo with my Necro, and you've just made my life 1000% easier.  </p><p>Now, where did that named mob I just saw go?</p>

[netglen]

<cite>Ekuth@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Okay, wow.  I just wanted to say:</p><p>THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH for explaining the Tainted Heals line and how to use it.  I primarily solo with my Necro, and you've just made my life 1000% easier.  </p><p>Now, where did that named mob I just saw go?</p></blockquote>I can't believe how easy it is to solo a Necro with Tainted Heals. It makes me wonder how much time I burnt leveling my Conj to L.69 compared to the ease of the Necro. Last night my L.24 Necro picked of Word of Force spell from Splitpaw. It's a nice nuke and it help me rip through mobs faster with up front damage with the chance of double damage when the spell procs.Slightly off the Tainted Heal topic, but my first attempt at the SplitPaw Havoc quest ended in death. I was trying to use Tainted Heals to keep my tank pet alive after I got the spirit buff and tried to take on the heroic mobs. I just couldn't keep up with healing my pet and I died when I was trying to fight some adds. So the following day I decided not to try the Tainted heals & tank pet. I went with mage pet and set it to not to defend me or itself. After I built enough aggro with the mobs, I would then command the pet to start nuking away. It worked out very well and I was able to take down the solo/group mobs quickly because i didn't have to worry about healing the mage pet. This is the one time I found so far where using Tainted Heals really didn't work out but this quest was a pretty unique encounter.

[Ekuthh]

<p>Yeah, I mean I'm a 63 necro and thought I had it pretty well figured out.  If I lost the fighter, I'd stun/root the mob and recast while the DF pets picked away and the DOTs did their work.  I even camped Trade Commissioner Aman back in my early 50's for Yaddeuah's Caducess (sp?) just so I'd have it later...  thought I knew all the tricks, but MAN!</p><p>Tainted Heals makes all the difference.  I was soloing orange con heroics last night and barely breaking a sweat.</p><p>Now if they'd just fix the bug with Lich, I'll be a happy man. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[netglen]

<cite>Ekuth@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Tainted Heals makes all the difference.  I was soloing orange con heroics last night and barely breaking a sweat.</p></blockquote>With my Conj in the 60s, I couldn't solo any heroics above green, sometimes I can could solo blue ones. Besides THs for the tank pet, what kind of AA spec were you using and what other spells wer you casting? I'm guessing you had all but the top tier of Stamina and the DMG reduction spec?

[Za]

<p>For a L70 Nec that raids, solos, and groups equally...</p><p>Summoner AAs: I took Str 4,4,4,8,0 - Int 4,4,4,8,0, & Wis 4,5,0,0,0 - I like the Wisdom heal for those hairy situations.</p><p>Necromancer AAs: I maxed the last 2 lines for LB and TH... then put the rest into Reduced damage and something else that doesn't matter much...</p><p>All in all, soloing is cake, and by Raid DPS is up there... Not #1, but so what... I'm top 3 or 4 every fight and top 2 or 3 zone wide hehe.</p>