Did Mystic pet changes actually make it to test this time?

[Rayche]

Topic says it all.Is it in? If so, impressions?

[Rayche]

Wow... this is looking almost as promising as the last time.

[Aela@Test]

<p>I'll check, give me a few mins <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I don't actually play a melee mystic (i'm a raid debuffer/healer) so I will have to respec.</p>

[Aela@Test]

<p>Dogdog (lovingly known as Kenny) is still vvv.  </p><p> I can't tell if any effect is on Kenny directly.  On the casting icon, it says "Increases hitpoints and DPS of the pet by 20%.  Also increases the attributes and crushing skill of the pet".</p><p> I can not, however, tell how many HPs he currently has, nor do i know how many he used to have.    Maybe there is another mystic on test (I know of one other who had been active, and was a melee mystic, but not sure if she ever hit 70..) who can check into more detail.  I didn't use Kenny for much of anything other then for granting buffs.  </p><p>Sorry i couldn't be more helpful.</p>

[Rayche]

Thanks for checking <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />Sounds (And looks) like it didn't go in again, but I guess we'll see. That description (Eroneous as it is) is the same on the live servers atm.Btw, a 20% increase in hit points would amount to .2 hit points over what he currently has.Gah...

[DCarnage2]

Why is this only a Mystic change?  I thought the spirit companion is in the "Shaman" AA line.  /boggle

[OldMan_JP]

<p>The dog itself is from the shaman tree.  But the aa choice that grants this increase in effectiveness is from the mystic tree.</p>

[LizzyIzzy2]

<cite>Kitartha@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The dog itself is from the shaman tree.  But the aa choice that grants this increase in effectiveness is from the mystic tree.</p></blockquote><p>I have a screen shot saved (below) where I got a stats shot of the persona window for Dogdog (in my case Rover) several months back. I got it by activating the Muktuk Veil Mask (from the quest in Somborn Village called Entering the Veil given by Ihriel) that turns you into a Veil Hunter minion. With Rover up however, it caused me to possess my pet instead. </p><p>If I still have the quest item then I could try it again and compare the stats. I do know that Dogdog by class is a berserker! Has anyone else tried this? If so can you screenshot and post the stats (along with your AA build)? That would show the difference (if any).</p><p><img src="http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/suedoenimm/EQ2_000081.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="800" height="561" /></p>

[Geothe]

<p>Find a dueling parter.And turn on ACT.</p><p>Fight them with and without the AA buff.</p><p>first: just have them autoattack the pet down, will show about how many HPs it has</p><p>Second: have them just stand there and you have the dog attack them (in the back) ACT will let you see if hit rate is increasing (+crush) as well as DPS mod is working (hits are hitting for more).</p>

[DCarnage2]

<cite>Kitartha@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The dog itself is from the shaman tree.  But the aa choice that grants this increase in effectiveness is from the mystic tree.</p></blockquote>Ahh, I see.  Congraz Mystics, it's about time you guys get some lovin <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Arbreth]

On the Mystic tree?Which line then?I must be blind as I could not tell which one this is on live...  Thought it would be the Strength line for lack of better info (aye, I have been slacking).I have a Defiler on Test, otherwise I would look myself, later I will recheck the tree on Arbreth.

[Aela@Test]

it was added to weaponmastery. 

[Aeralik]

The level 70 wolf( or dogdog as you guys call it for some strange reason ) with no group buffs on it has 1,433 hitpoints on my machine.  That is over twice the amount of hit points it has now.

[Ordate]

<p>The term dogdog comes from the days of yore when there was no mystic and defiler... Just shaman.  Back then the nickname for the adorable tagalong shaman got was dogdog.  The name has stuck and carried between games....</p><p>If you ever give any druids a bear pet again, just wait till you hear those names <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Edit in:  Hey could be worse, we could refer to him as one of the other common names for him, "Kenny" which is homage to the South Park character of the same name for how he constantly meets with a grizly demise.</p>

[willnotuse]

Wait, so you are telling me my pet names of Cheney, GWBush and Isis are all wrong?

[Kokus]

<cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>The level 70 wolf( or dogdog as you guys call it for some strange reason ) with no group buffs on it has 1,433 hitpoints on my machine.  That is over twice the amount of hit points it has now.</blockquote>I guess I'll have to rename my dog to something other than "tenhitpoints" now.

[EDofEDs]

<cite>"twentyhitpoints" then since its a wopping 100% increase lol. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Really though im not overly in need of dogdog to have more HP or survivability.  Im just interested in upping his chance to hit and DPS.  I get that we aren't a pet class so we dont need a tank pet, but there is no point to even having the pet out now as being vvv means he doesn't hit for beans if he can even hit at all.I would be happy if they took the 100% HP back and gave us a 100% DPS increase and a big boost to his weapon skill.  Also does the wolf USE crush skill?  I mean big fangs just dont seem to say crush to me hehe.</cite>

[rvbarton]

<p>Cool.  My pet now has .2% more hp's?  Woo-frakking-hoo...  </p><p> How about giving us a swarm pet ability to compensate like in EQ1?  Something..  PLEASE!  Throw dogdog a bone!</p>

[Aela@Test]

<p>Last night I kept my melee spec for our dungon crawls (to much dismay of the rest of my guild..hehe) and checked out how much damage dogdog was doing.  He seemed to hit harder then before, however keep in mind that i usually just toss him in for his ward and AOE immunity proc, and don't typically pay attention to the dps on him.  He does seem to be doing more then before, so I would guess it's working.</p><p>However, my husband came and sat next to me last night during Top Chef and kindly let me know i needed to respec out of melee.  Heh.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Oakum]

<cite>Aela@Test wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>However, my husband came and sat next to me last night during Top Chef and kindly let me know i needed to respec out of melee.  Heh.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote><p>Hey now. No picking on husbands. Besides, if you don't want to follow our advice, why do you ask? </p><p>Sorry, had to say that. It reminded me of my wife asking me what I thought the best aa was for her toons and then totally going against most of my advice for this or that reason, lol. </p><p>I am glad the mystic pet got a buffed  up to be twice as good as before, now maybe wardens can get a pet bear or something so that we can get closer to our twin in dps, the fury, like we are supposed to. Oh well, it never hurts to hope to catch up them again on the dps side. They caught up to in healing and utility (roots for crowd control) so why not. lol. </p>

[Aela@Test]

<cite>Oakum wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aela@Test wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>However, my husband came and sat next to me last night during Top Chef and kindly let me know i needed to respec out of melee.  Heh.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"></p></blockquote><p>Hey now. No picking on husbands. Besides, if you don't want to follow our advice, why do you ask? </p><p>Sorry, had to say that. It reminded me of my wife asking me what I thought the best aa was for her toons and then totally going against most of my advice for this or that reason, lol. </p><p>I am glad the mystic pet got a buffed  up to be twice as good as before, now maybe wardens can get a pet bear or something so that we can get closer to our twin in dps, the fury, like we are supposed to. Oh well, it never hurts to hope to catch up them again on the dps side. They caught up to in healing and utility (roots for crowd control) so why not. lol. </p></blockquote>lol, i didn't ask <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  He offered it to me.   I typically don't ask his advice on my toons' builds.  Thats the irony of it.

[Ordate]

<cite>willnotuse wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wait, so you are telling me my pet names of Cheney, GWBush and Isis are all wrong?</blockquote><p>Nothing about wrong as long as it falls in the naming policy (as I found out once which surprised me that the name I chose violated it)... I was merely pointing out that often the pet we have is refered to as "dogdog" or "Kenny" and why that is.  Right now my pet is named to be the same as my toon as I wanted to get his damage tallied with my parse.</p><p>When they announced the change, I thought cool, but havent thought much beyond it other then the dislike of how it was handeled.  As I am a melee spec already its just a little bit extra added to my dps.  </p>

[Leatherneck]

<cite>Ordate wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The term dogdog comes from the days of yore when there was no mystic and defiler... Just shaman.  </p></blockquote>Yup.  Shammy pets have been called Dogdog for as long as I've been playing SOE games....and that goes back a spell.

[Leatherneck]

<cite>rvbarton wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Cool.  My pet now has .2% more hp's?  Woo-frakking-hoo... </p></blockquote><p>Umm....no.</p><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>The level 70 wolf( or dogdog as you guys call it for some strange reason ) with no group buffs on it has 1,433 hitpoints on my machine.  That is over twice the amount of hit points it has now.</blockquote><p>Over twice as many HP is substantially more than .2%.</p>

[rumblepants]

Bah, I need to copy my Mystic over at some point and test this. I really am not all that concerned with his health but more with his ability to hit hard content. That's my issue.

[Katanari]

<cite>Suedoenimm@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kitartha@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote></blockquote><p>I do know that Dogdog by class is a berserker! </p><p><img src="http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/suedoenimm/EQ2_000081.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="800" height="561" /></p><p><span style="color: #00cc66;">Actually Dogodg is not a berserker. The Muktuk Veil Mask turns you into the Berzerker class as part of it's illusion. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /></span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc66;">(And sorry some how this quote got seriously screwed up LOL)</span></p></blockquote>

[Igu]

<cite>Oakum wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>I am glad the mystic pet got a buffed  up to be twice as good as before, now maybe wardens can get a pet bear or something so that we can get closer to our twin in dps, the fury, like we are supposed to. Oh well, it never hurts to hope to catch up them again on the dps side. They caught up to in healing and utility (roots for crowd control) so why not. lol. </p></blockquote>My 62 fury agrees...as soon as we get the Focus and Mitigation buffs of wolf form instead of the crap Agi/Sta ones of lion. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Sunlei]

<cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>The level 70 wolf( or dogdog as you guys call it for some strange reason ) with no group buffs on it has 1,433 hitpoints on my machine.  That is over twice the amount of hit points it has now.</blockquote>  The name 'dogdog' was (and still is lol) the commen nickname of the Shammies wolf pet in Everquest 1 . not really 'strange' at all <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[TheSpin]

<cite>Dominik@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>"twentyhitpoints" then since its a wopping 100% increase lol. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />Really though im not overly in need of dogdog to have more HP or survivability.  Im just interested in upping his chance to hit and DPS.  I get that we aren't a pet class so we dont need a tank pet, but there is no point to even having the pet out now as being vvv means he doesn't hit for beans if he can even hit at all.I would be happy if they took the 100% HP back and gave us a 100% DPS increase and a big boost to his weapon skill.  Also does the wolf USE crush skill?  I mean big fangs just dont seem to say crush to me hehe.</cite></blockquote><b>Mystic</b> <ul><li>Weapon Mastery should now improve the dps, max health, attributes and crushing skill of the shaman pet</li></ul><p>DPS, attributes, and crush skill (which I'm assuming he uses since that's the one that was buffed).  The double hit points is on top of all this.  I don't think it's wise to look a gift horse in the mouth.  My defiler dog dies before I even see the add that killed it and maybe having double the points would give me just enough time to keep him alive (which is worthwhile if you've gone down the strength line).</p><p>I have found the dog to be a huge part of playing the shaman class thanks to the free heals they provide.  Now mystics are getting more free dps added, and surviveability.  It's a great buff.</p>

[Koltr]

<cite>Dominik@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>"twentyhitpoints" then since its a wopping 100% increase lol. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />Really though im not overly in need of dogdog to have more HP or survivability.  Im just interested in upping his chance to hit and DPS.  I get that we aren't a pet class so we dont need a tank pet, but there is no point to even having the pet out now as being vvv means he doesn't hit for beans if he can even hit at all.I would be happy if they took the 100% HP back and gave us a 100% DPS increase and a big boost to his weapon skill.  Also does the wolf USE crush skill?  I mean big fangs just dont seem to say crush to me hehe.</cite></blockquote>Actually the best way to use dogdog is to ward and shield him and use him in a duo with a berserker or guardian. Buff dogdog and send him in after the mob and as soon as he gets noticed recall him till he gets in range of your friends taunts. As long as the mob doesn't deplete the ward dogdog will live. I like to call it "Fishing with Poodles".

[silentpsycho]

<cite>willnotuse wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wait, so you are telling me my pet names of Cheney, GWBush and Isis are all wrong?</blockquote><p>Yep.  The dog should be named Kenny, and only Kenny.  And on my summon spirit companion macro, I "/shout OMG they killed Kenny!  Again..."  It's funny to see the response the first 2-3 times I have to re-summon my pet.  Not so funny after the 79th... In the first 20 min in zone...  Glad to hear Mystic's pets got a little help to go along with their amazing melee crits and other goodies.  Good on ya, mates.</p><p>Locus, 70 Defiler of Nagafen</p>

[Devilsbane]

<cite>Ordate wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The term dogdog comes from the days of yore when there was no mystic and defiler... Just shaman.  Back then the nickname for the adorable tagalong shaman got was dogdog.  The name has stuck and carried between games....</p><p><b>If you ever give any druids a bear pet again, just wait till you hear those names</b> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"></p><p>Edit in:  Hey could be worse, we could refer to him as one of the other common names for him, "Kenny" which is homage to the South Park character of the same name for how he constantly meets with a grizly demise.</p></blockquote>Well we druids do have on our agi line a charm animal ability. Although it costs three concentrations to use. Because of that high cost it is not used by many people. Now that we have been given extra points to spend in the AA tree, I may just try it out. First animal I will try to charm will be Grubdigger from Oakmyst forest. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />