Newb Swash questions

[Odarion]

<p>Hey everyone!</p><p> I'm new to EQ2 and the Swashbuckler class and have a few questions I would apreciate some answers for! </p><p>My Swash is about lvl 22 or so and I get frustrated that every time I'm out in the world and come accross a freeper my level or so they always kill me (yea should of stated previously that I'm on a pvp server) I also come from World of Warcraft and got very sick of that game.  Now the rogues there are completely invisible to the naked eye, however it seems that Swashbucklers aren't, and is there a way to make them completely invisible to other people?</p><p>Also, how are they in PvP? And how much are they wanted in PvE? are they the highest DPS class in the game? If someone could break down the class for me for both pvp and pve that would be wonderful! </p><p>Thanks everyone!</p><p> ~Oda</p>

[Rippitt]

Dueling/pvp - Extremely overpowered Soloing - Better than most classes, not the best, but certainly effecient. You can stand toe to toe with even con heroics rather than uh root/nuke/kiting/whatever it is other classes do. Raiding - T1 dps during this expansion. You bring solid single target dps, insane aoe damage, a full line of debuffs, a hate transfer. Probably even more important than a brigand on certain encounters. (I can't imagine raiding without at least 1 swash and brig tho, shrug)

[Cocytus]

<cite>Rippitt@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><b>Dueling/pvp - Extremely overpowered</b>Soloing - Better than most classes, not the best, but certainly effecient. You can stand toe to toe with even con heroics rather than uh root/nuke/kiting/whatever it is other classes do.Raiding - T1 dps during this expansion. You bring solid single target dps, insane aoe damage, a full line of debuffs, a hate transfer. Probably even more important than a brigand on certain encounters. (I can't imagine raiding without at least 1 swash and brig tho, shrug)</blockquote><p>Not since the double attack nerf. That was what did it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Also keep in mind that specing for tier 1 dps also gives up a lot of utility. I myself am "balanced" specced and dabble in high tier 2.</p>

[doctorbow]

<cite>Odarion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey everyone!</p><p> I'm new to EQ2 and the Swashbuckler class and have a few questions I would apreciate some answers for! </p><p>My Swash is about lvl 22 or so and I get frustrated that every time I'm out in the world and come accross a freeper my level or so they always kill me (yea should of stated previously that I'm on a pvp server) I also come from World of Warcraft and got very sick of that game.  Now the rogues there are completely invisible to the naked eye, however it seems that Swashbucklers aren't, and is there a way to make them completely invisible to other people?</p><p>Also, how are they in PvP? And how much are they wanted in PvE? are they the highest DPS class in the game? If someone could break down the class for me for both pvp and pve that would be wonderful! </p><p>Thanks everyone!</p><p> ~Oda</p></blockquote>As far as an "equivalent" level PvP'er handing you your [Removed for Content], welcome to EQ PvP.  People level lock, max out AA's/Gear for that level, grind off green newbs, get good gear, etc, and generally are WAY more powerful than YOU are at level 22.  Don't expect a fair fight.  Ever, really.  It's why I'm a bluebie, and proud of it.We're not 'rated' as T1 DPS, but depending on relative skill/gear levels of those around you, you CAN do T1 DPS for your group-setup comparitively speaking.  Officially, we are T2 DPS with moderate utility.As far as 'how they are' in PvE, how "wanted" etc, again that depends on the player.  Swash is a GREAT class that brings alot to any group/raid, but if played poorly, ANY class can suck.  Nobody can hit auto-attack and walk away.  Except rangers <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> .  PvP is a ROUGH place to learn how the class would be in PvE environment.  They are just seperate games.  So you're just not going to get a real answer to that, and even among swashes ON pvp, playstyles are vastly different, some pretty clever.As far as the class itself, it is really one of the most balanced classes in the game, and does what it is intended to do.  Now, by comparison, if played well they can do remarkably well at pretty much anything role-wise (except healer, naturally) and this CAN seem un-balanced comparing to other classes.  This doesn't indicate anything broken with swashes, so much as it does things are broken with other classes in comparison, some needing minor boosts here 'n there.  In fact, as far as "balance" goes, we are one of the most untouched classes in the game as far as nerf's go, and other than large, grand sweeping changes only receive minor tweaks here 'n there, so it really is a stable class to play.  If you want to play a tank-ish rogue, you can spec for it.  You can spec pretty balanced.  You can spec as a great debuffer and help your utility, or you can spec for raw DPS and add abit to that as well.  Great class to play, any way you look at it.  And, up to a point, Brig's are pretty much the same, just a different palette of colors as far as utility goes.  Our hats are just sexier.