how do you like the necromancer

[blackdragon44]

<p>hi all, Im currently returning from a "long vacation" of 2 years.</p><p>currently have a 60 dirge, but the games changed so much, im thinking about rerolling a necro possibly to re-experience the game. With all the new AA system, and spells, and stuff. So i was wondering a few things.</p><p> How do you guys like the necromancer class? are they fun? i use to play one in eq 1 and i loved it.</p><p>How easy is it to find groups as a necromancer? i like grouping alot, but also probably will need to solo sense im kind of restarting.</p><p> Are necros wanted at high levels for groups and raids? is it easy to find a guild?</p>

[Rocc]

I recently betrayed my conj into a necro and WOW. They are uber beyond belief compared to a conj. Solo easier, group easier, last longer, etc. It's quite sad actually. It's ridiculous necros were so much more overpowered and their AA's are so much better than conj AA's. Anyway it's a huge difference and I wish I had known earlier. I admit I will miss Qeynos and my Call of the Hero but I've never been happier with a class.

[Virulence]

<p>If you are focused on getting a raiding slot in a higher end guild, I would not reroll as a necro. Necros occupy a very small raid niche and honestly there is minimal benefit currently to having more than 1 in the 24-man rotation. In addition, there are almost as many necros as furies and wizzies.</p><p>If you want to just solo and group some of the old content, then its fine but I dont want you to invest 2-3 months in getting to 70, now 80 and realize you have only a small list of instances at the endgame to enjoy.</p><p>For someone determined to raid, I would suggest staying with dirge, if not then troubadour or coercer(excellent soloer, maybe better than a necro even).</p><p>My guess is RoK will be a smashing success that brings in a ton of new players so the mix will change. Given that it is only 6 weeks away, you might consider taking your dirge to 70 and beginning a new Sarnak mage when Kunark is released mid Nov.</p><p>Conjys and CoH is VERY useful and frankly will likely become even more useful if RoK has numerous busy dungeons (Sebilis, Howling Stones, Karnor, Kurn etc) that are persistent and require CoH for swapping out groupmates. Sage room in CMM amplified on a huge scale comes to mind.</p><p>Lastly, there are a ton of crappy low dps necros at 70. Im usually 2x the dps parse as another necro when I do group with one in EoF instances and I think its because players think having a pet on autoattack lets you off the hook. Our standards are slipping IMO, this will likely be amplified by a flood of people in RoK trying to hit cap asap and picking necro because they think its easymode or something.</p><p>-My 2 cents.</p>

[Davngr1]

<cite>aciddragon340 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I recently betrayed my conj into a necro and WOW. They are uber beyond belief compared to a conj. Solo easier, group easier, last longer, etc. It's quite sad actually. It's ridiculous necros were so much more overpowered and their AA's are so much better than conj AA's. Anyway it's a huge difference and I wish I had known earlier. I admit I will miss Qeynos and my Call of the Hero but I've never been happier with a class.</blockquote>you dint konw how to play your conj and you probly dont konw how to play your necro either..  both summoners are equal in AA and dmg.

[Davngr1]

<cite>Virulence wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you are focused on getting a raiding slot in a higher end guild, I would not reroll as a necro. Necros occupy a very small raid niche and honestly there is minimal benefit currently to having more than 1 in the 24-man rotation. In addition, there are almost as many necros as furies and wizzies.</p><p>If you want to just solo and group some of the old content, then its fine but I dont want you to invest 2-3 months in getting to 70, now 80 and realize you have only a small list of instances at the endgame to enjoy.</p><p>For someone determined to raid, I would suggest staying with dirge, if not then troubadour or coercer(excellent soloer, maybe better than a necro even).</p><p>My guess is RoK will be a smashing success that brings in a ton of new players so the mix will change. Given that it is only 6 weeks away, you might consider taking your dirge to 70 and beginning a new Sarnak mage when Kunark is released mid Nov.</p><p>Conjys and CoH is VERY useful and frankly will likely become even more useful if RoK has numerous busy dungeons (Sebilis, Howling Stones, Karnor, Kurn etc) that are persistent and require CoH for swapping out groupmates. Sage room in CMM amplified on a huge scale comes to mind.</p><p>Lastly, there are a ton of crappy low dps necros at 70. Im usually 2x the dps parse as another necro when I do group with one in EoF instances and I think its because players think having a pet on autoattack lets you off the hook. Our standards are slipping IMO, this will likely be amplified by a flood of people in RoK trying to hit cap asap and picking necro because they think its easymode or something.</p><p>-My 2 cents.</p></blockquote><p>this for the most part is correct ..  lots of necros out there will be hard to find a raiding guild that all ready does not have 10 million necro alts.. </p><p>  i</p>

[Rocc]

<cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>aciddragon340 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I recently betrayed my conj into a necro and WOW. They are uber beyond belief compared to a conj. Solo easier, group easier, last longer, etc. It's quite sad actually. It's ridiculous necros were so much more overpowered and their AA's are so much better than conj AA's. Anyway it's a huge difference and I wish I had known earlier. I admit I will miss Qeynos and my Call of the Hero but I've never been happier with a class.</blockquote>you dint konw how to play your conj and you probly dont konw how to play your necro either..  both summoners are equal in AA and dmg.</blockquote><p>First of all you dont know me and second you obviously never played both. Wait your entire wasted time typing that response was wrong. But one thing is for sure about your post... you are a newblet forum troll obsessed with insulting people.</p><p>Why are people such jerks in these forums? [I cannot control my vocabulary]! </p>

[Oriax]

My main was a level 70 Conjurer. I could solo pretty good with it I thought. Till one day I was trying to take down a mob and kept failing. So up steps a necro and takes it down with no problem. Right then I knew that it was time to betray to Necromancer. Just as <b>aciddragon340 </b>said, WOW! What a difference it was. Mind you this was all before EoF was released. Ever since I betrayed to Necromancer my other character; Level 70 Coercer; has just been collecting dust. All because a Necromancer can solo almost as much as I could with my Coercer but faster. That and I can actually solo more with the Necromancer than I ever could as a Conjurer.

[Davngr1]

<cite>aciddragon340 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>aciddragon340 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I recently betrayed my conj into a necro and WOW. They are uber beyond belief compared to a conj. Solo easier, group easier, last longer, etc. It's quite sad actually. It's ridiculous necros were so much more overpowered and their AA's are so much better than conj AA's. Anyway it's a huge difference and I wish I had known earlier. I admit I will miss Qeynos and my Call of the Hero but I've never been happier with a class.</blockquote>you dint konw how to play your conj and you probly dont konw how to play your necro either..  both summoners are equal in AA and dmg.</blockquote><p>First of all you dont know me and second you obviously never played both. Wait your entire wasted time typing that response was wrong. But one thing is for sure about your post... you are a newblet forum troll obsessed with insulting people.</p><p>Why are people such jerks in these forums? [I cannot control my vocabulary]! </p></blockquote>lol   ok    i apologice but still you dint konw how to play your conj ..   maybe the necro is better match for your play style

[Davngr1]

<cite>Oriax@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>My main was a level 70 Conjurer. I could solo pretty good with it I thought. Till one day I was trying to take down a mob and kept failing. So up steps a necro and takes it down with no problem. Right then I knew that it was time to betray to Necromancer. Just as <b>aciddragon340 </b>said, WOW! What a difference it was. Mind you this was all before EoF was released. Ever since I betrayed to Necromancer my other character; Level 70 Coercer; has just been collecting dust. All because a Necromancer can solo almost as much as I could with my Coercer but faster. That and I can actually solo more with the Necromancer than I ever could as a Conjurer.</blockquote><p>same goes for you ..  you dint konw how to play your conj..  i konw conj that solo as well as me if not better lol there's a conj in my server that soloed an epic trash mob in DT after the zone had ben cleard by his guild and actuioned relic plate that droped..  could a necro do that ? dout it ..  both classes are equal but they are different..   necros have a better heal but conj have a far better tank pet and pet buffs as well as way more slows ..   just need to learn how to play the class the right way.</p><p>edit. posting that classes are better then others unless it's PvP is just not true..  classes all have a niche ... players are better not classes</p>

[Mew]

<p>Bards are in much higher demand on raids; especially with recent changes making some buffs raid wide.  But don't sell necro's short.  I have a lvl 70 raiding necro that I pretty much only raid now.  He is regularly in the top 10 on the zonewide parse list and often in the top 5 ([Removed for Content] assassins always showing off by beating my parse).  In fact, the only reason my necro is not in the top 3 is because the other 4 or 5 guys in my guild are very much hardcore players compared to me so they have slightly better gear.</p><p> Necro's are fun to play.  But I admit I am having a lot of fun leveling my 45 troubador now, too.</p>

[Oriax]

<cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Oriax@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>My main was a level 70 Conjurer. I could solo pretty good with it I thought. Till one day I was trying to take down a mob and kept failing. So up steps a necro and takes it down with no problem. Right then I knew that it was time to betray to Necromancer. Just as <b>aciddragon340 </b>said, WOW! What a difference it was. Mind you this was all before EoF was released. Ever since I betrayed to Necromancer my other character; Level 70 Coercer; has just been collecting dust. All because a Necromancer can solo almost as much as I could with my Coercer but faster. That and I can actually solo more with the Necromancer than I ever could as a Conjurer.</blockquote><p>same goes for you ..  you dint konw how to play your conj..  i konw conj that solo as well as me if not better lol there's a conj in my server that soloed an epic trash mob in DT after the zone had ben cleard by his guild and actuioned relic plate that droped..  could a necro do that ? dout it ..  both classes are equal but they are different..   necros have a better heal but conj have a far better tank pet and pet buffs as well as way more slows ..   just need to learn how to play the class the right way.</p><p>edit. posting that classes are better then others unless it's PvP is just not true..  classes all have a niche ... players are better not classes</p></blockquote><p>[Removed for Content]... played my Conjuror for nearly 2 years compared to just a few months as a Necromancer. Until you've played both classes at the same level with the same amount of AA's then you can come tell me that the Conjurer is just as powerful or better than a Necromancer.</p><p>Other than that all I have to say is one word: thick</p><p>Take some time to think about that and post what you like, thats my last word on this topic.</p>

[Zorastiz]

<p>Guys he asked for help and advice not does he know how to play a class.</p><p> Basically play what makes you happy, I played a necro in EQ1 along with various other classes, I enjoyed the Necro most of all. I have a 40 necro in EQ2 now and enjoy him to the same extent I did my EQ1 necro.</p><p> As one of the other posters mentioned, if you want to do high end raiding you will feel somewhat neglected as you are considered unecessary so to speak, although that is a matter of opinion as well, It's not all about raiding.</p><p>From a pure enjoyment standpoint necromancers are a FUN class to play period, so if you want to enjoy your $15.00 a month then a necro is a good way to go.</p><p> There are MANY Necro resources in these forums and on the web in general so check it out.</p>

[Eviljoe2]

<p>First of all:</p><p>Davngr1.....why do you post the way you do?  Though you may be trying to be helpful it comes out to be so terribly rude...not just on this post but other as well.....Just an observation....</p><p>As for me, I too played a Necro in EQ1 and now have a 70 Necro in EQ2 and it is the best class I have played.  </p><p>I rarely have trouble finding a group, but have not done too much raiding.  It is quite easy to find and be accepted to guilds I have found.  The only thing I have been hearing recently is just how many necros there are out there....and there are a lot of us..which also says they are fun to play.</p><p>I can solo things that I have seen other classes try and fail to solo....player skill aside, we solo pretty well.</p><p>I have many alts, but none compare to my Necro...</p>

[Galeden]

<p>I have to agree that necros are great in soloing.  When Neriak was announced, I decided to make an asari necromancer, I had made a fae illusionest and didn't get very far.  I also have a 33 Conj I always wanted to get higher, but just couldn't seem to get it going very well.  Well I had been having fun getting to 20+ then it started getting a little tougher, but thats when I really looked into AAs and decided what I really should go for, and one AA overwelmed the fun I have with a necro vs conj, that being tainted heals.  Get that and you can go crazy solo or small grouping.  </p>

[Eviljoe2]

<p>Hehe, I too have a conj. And I left her in the dust at lvl. 27.</p><p>For some reason the conj. was just not as fun for me.  I may pull her out again now that I know more about the game it may be the case that I was just used to the Necro class from prior games.  And yes, tainted heals is the stuff.....can do much with it.</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Virulence wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you are focused on getting a raiding slot in a higher end guild, I would not reroll as a necro. Necros occupy a very small raid niche and honestly there is minimal benefit currently to having more than 1 in the 24-man rotation. In addition, there are almost as many necros as furies and wizzies.</p><p>If you want to just solo and group some of the old content, then its fine but I dont want you to invest 2-3 months in getting to 70, now 80 and realize you have only a small list of instances at the endgame to enjoy.</p><p>For someone determined to raid, I would suggest staying with dirge, if not then troubadour or coercer(excellent soloer, maybe better than a necro even).</p><p>My guess is RoK will be a smashing success that brings in a ton of new players so the mix will change. Given that it is only 6 weeks away, you might consider taking your dirge to 70 and beginning a new Sarnak mage when Kunark is released mid Nov.</p><p>Conjys and CoH is VERY useful and frankly will likely become even more useful if RoK has numerous busy dungeons (Sebilis, Howling Stones, Karnor, Kurn etc) that are persistent and require CoH for swapping out groupmates. Sage room in CMM amplified on a huge scale comes to mind.</p><p>Lastly, there are a ton of crappy low dps necros at 70. Im usually 2x the dps parse as another necro when I do group with one in EoF instances and I think its because players think having a pet on autoattack lets you off the hook. Our standards are slipping IMO, this will likely be amplified by a flood of people in RoK trying to hit cap asap and picking necro because they think its easymode or something.</p><p>-My 2 cents.</p></blockquote><p>this for the most part is correct ..  lots of necros out there will be hard to find a raiding guild that all ready does not have 10 million necro alts.. </p><p>  i</p></blockquote>That depends a bit on servers.On pvp servers, necros are at the bottom of the food chain in pvp at lvl cap, so there arent a lot of them really. Most people usually just give up in disgust with the necro in t6 it would seem. I have had a few raiding guilds asking me to bring my necro over to them because they have none. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Davngr1]

<cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>First of all:</p><p>Davngr1.....why do you post the way you do?  Though you may be trying to be helpful it comes out to be so terribly rude...not just on this post but other as well.....Just an observation....</p><p>As for me, I too played a Necro in EQ1 and now have a 70 Necro in EQ2 and it is the best class I have played.  </p><p>I rarely have trouble finding a group, but have not done too much raiding.  It is quite easy to find and be accepted to guilds I have found.  The only thing I have been hearing recently is just how many necros there are out there....and there are a lot of us..which also says they are fun to play.</p><p>I can solo things that I have seen other classes try and fail to solo....player skill aside, we solo pretty well.</p><p>I have many alts, but none compare to my Necro...</p></blockquote> public opinion gets classes nerfed fact...  both classes ARE balanced necro is not "better" than conj at anything just diferent..  conj can do just as much dps as a necro and solo the same..   down playing another class just because you arent good at or dont like playing it is rude i think.. and yea necros are fun no dout about that.

[Eviljoe2]

<cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>First of all:</p><p>Davngr1.....why do you post the way you do?  Though you may be trying to be helpful it comes out to be so terribly rude...not just on this post but other as well.....Just an observation....</p><p>As for me, I too played a Necro in EQ1 and now have a 70 Necro in EQ2 and it is the best class I have played.  </p><p>I rarely have trouble finding a group, but have not done too much raiding.  It is quite easy to find and be accepted to guilds I have found.  The only thing I have been hearing recently is just how many necros there are out there....and there are a lot of us..which also says they are fun to play.</p><p>I can solo things that I have seen other classes try and fail to solo....player skill aside, we solo pretty well.</p><p>I have many alts, but none compare to my Necro...</p></blockquote> public opinion gets classes nerfed fact...  both classes ARE balanced necro is not "better" than conj at anything just diferent..  conj can do just as much dps as a necro and solo the same..   down playing another class just because you arent good at or dont like playing it is rude i think.. and yea necros are fun no dout about that.</blockquote><p>I do not see in my post above any area in which I stated that a necro is better than a conj.  I did however say I have seen OTHER CLASSES try to solo things that they could not and my necro could.  Can you think of any classes that cannot solo something that a Necro can?  Is it class specific or just skill?  That is why I said player skill aside, we solo pretty well....this is not to say that some other classes including conj. do NOT solo well.  </p><p>You seem to be very focused on assuming that someone is not good at their class simply because they prefer one over the other...not sure why that is, but it is boggling.</p><p>And as far as thinking it is rude for someone to downplay another class? You have every right to feel that way, but it does not compare to the focused, personal and perposful harshness of your posts.  You seem quite intelligent and I have no doubt you could impart a great amount of knowledge without the attitude.</p>

[Jasuo]

<p>Ignore the trolls, intellignece is not a word best used to describe them.  The necromancer is the greatest class ever and anyone who thinks otherwise is silly, we've been broken and we've been overpowered, the way the class is designed I don't think there will ever be a proper balance.  Everyone will always find something good or bad to say about us as it is very easy to either suck horribly or destroy parses.  All that said each class in the game is very capable of doing pretty much the same feats when played by a skillful person who gets the most out of every ability.  Keep on truckin'.</p>

[Oriax]

<p>Nevermind what Davngr1 says. He makes Cnojurors out to be soloing gods or something simply because he probably is one. He has done this now in more than one forum or thread. Most of the time people respond saying that the Necromancer can solo things that Conjuors can't. So go figure. I myself have tried both classes at level 70 and both with 100 aa solo builds. Had my Conjuror for over a year compared to only playing a Necro with worse gear and far less master spells (since I lost all my good Conjy only items and spells after betraying) for a matter of months and I CAN SOLO THINGS THAT CONJY'S JUST CAN'T HANDLE!</p><p>So until Davngr1 has himself a 70 Necromancer and been around the block with it, then and only then will I start listening to him.</p>

[Jasuo]

Well I think he/she/it does have a necro actually... <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=378186203" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Davngr</a> ...just not a ton of experience maybe.  Just a bit too worried about drawing more attention to the incredible class we are, too late for that tho since we've been under the watch of every other class since the beginning (like the redux of lich proc damage). Conjies are great and all and I have an alt conjuror myself, but I just don't find it to be as exciting/capable a class as necromancer is.

[Oldlore]

Too bad this thread has gotten completely sidetracked.  Plenty of folks like summoners, hence why they're so popular.  Just roll one and give it a try.  You can betray back and forth as often as you like if you want to try the other side.Necros can obviously solo well with tainted heals, but conjurors aren't slouches either.  In groups they're pretty equivalent and on raids conjurors can outparse necros on many fights.  As to the whole <b>I can solo X mob better than you</b>, enchanters can solo stuff a necro/conj couldn't...what of it?  It'll take them longer.  Grass is always greener...

[Supernova17]

Pssh, I can solo anything I want, but what's the point to solo'ing now? Dunno about you guys, but the Kithicor market isn't moving on anything farmable except for raid loot and crafted crap for twinks (in preparation for RoK no less, be a booming business for awhile for lower tier crafters).

[Davngr1]

<p>well..   i see things diferently and this is a public forum and i can voice my opinion as i choose, the remarks i made where to players that for no reason at all decided to slander another class..  it is fact   players can not be limited by class but a class is indeed always limited by the player (read that in a fourtune cookie ).  im not a troll dont konw whre you get that.. im not just surfing around looking for [Removed for Content] to flame im a necro and proud of it.. i play my class with flawless pressision and when i fail i dont say necros suck and betray i just try harder or decide it's not worth the trouble,  further more if the other posters had said they re rolled a necro because they where tired of not being able to solo their bard,guard,cleric? i would understand,  but the fact is both summoners are strong solo and their aa are equal as well.  </p>

[Darkevileyes]

I am not uber raider.But i know in raid if without special duty,24 slot groups didn't require 2 necro. I am just thinking for my personal <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> About soloing performance.For name ,Sorcerer is better than summoner.For trash npcs , summoner is better.But for gathering,we can gathering when fighting , lol.

[ckninja]

<p>Just wanted to add my 2cp. My main was a conjour for a long time, had him on shelf after all the nerfing</p><p>so got bored betrayed him.</p><p>Now i see how much greener the grass is on the necro side</p><p>and now i see the necro survived stuff my conj would die to.</p><p>1 because of lifetaps and FD plus teh ability to charm undead 2nd pet..</p>

[netglen]

I have a L.69 Conj with 100AA and I decided to give Necro a try. I'm pretty burnt out with raiding and lockable instances so I thought to give a Necro a try. So far I like it a lot. I'm only L.11 with 2AA but it seems to be a lot of fun to play. I pretty much soloed 1-50, started getting on teams from 50-60 and started raiding in my 60s.  I can't wait to see how the Necro compares and performs.

[Eviljoe2]

<cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well..   i see things diferently and this is a public forum and i can voice my opinion as i choose, the remarks i made where to players that for no reason at all decided to slander another class..  it is fact   players can not be limited by class but a class is indeed always limited by the player (read that in a fourtune cookie ).  im not a troll dont konw whre you get that.. im not just surfing around looking for [Removed for Content] to flame im a necro and proud of it.. i play my class with flawless pressision and when i fail i dont say necros suck and betray i just try harder or decide it's not worth the trouble,  further more if the other posters had said they re rolled a necro because they where tired of not being able to solo their bard,guard,cleric? i would understand,  but the fact is both summoners are strong solo and their aa are equal as well.  </p></blockquote>Awesome post......I knew you could do it!!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Davngr1]

<cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well..   i see things diferently and this is a public forum and i can voice my opinion as i choose, the remarks i made where to players that for no reason at all decided to slander another class..  it is fact   players can not be limited by class but a class is indeed always limited by the player (read that in a fourtune cookie ).  im not a troll dont konw whre you get that.. im not just surfing around looking for [Removed for Content] to flame im a necro and proud of it.. i play my class with flawless pressision and when i fail i dont say necros suck and betray i just try harder or decide it's not worth the trouble,  further more if the other posters had said they re rolled a necro because they where tired of not being able to solo their bard,guard,cleric? i would understand,  but the fact is both summoners are strong solo and their aa are equal as well.  </p></blockquote>Awesome post......I knew you could do it!!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>lol   thanks man 

[EDofEDs]

<cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well..   i see things diferently and this is a public forum and i can voice my opinion as i choose, the remarks i made where to players that for no reason at all decided to slander another class..  it is fact   players can not be limited by class but a class is indeed always limited by the player (read that in a fourtune cookie ).  im not a troll dont konw whre you get that.. im not just surfing around looking for [Removed for Content] to flame im a necro and proud of it.. i play my class with flawless pressision and when i fail i dont say necros suck and betray i just try harder or decide it's not worth the trouble,  further more if the other posters had said they re rolled a necro because they where tired of not being able to solo their bard,guard,cleric? i would understand,  but the fact is both summoners are strong solo and their aa are equal as well.  </p></blockquote>Awesome post......I knew you could do it!!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>lol   thanks man  </blockquote>So... touching... <teary eyes> <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />But anyways, hehe.  I have a 54 conj with ad3 pets and ad1 spells except for the occasionaly master2/ad3 buffs for the pets, and treasured gear on.  I'm good with my class and i know how to play it just fine.  I just don't have time to be bothered with harvesting like mad for rares or doing alot of instance runs (I gots a new baby in the house, i barely got time to sleep lol) so don't go hatin on my about not knowing how to play my class when i say what I'm about to say.  I get tons of compliments from my guild about how well I perform considering the gear im in.I have a friend with a 40-something necro and have played it for a couple weeks or so.  I find it to be more engaging then the conj.  With my conj I feel like the pet is the main and im just following it around debuffing and casting as i can.  The necro feels much more engaged while playing like im a warlock that happens to have a nice pet too.And for god's sake don't take the above broad statements i made as absolute truths.  They are just general opinions of how the classes FEEL to me, you can't tell me how i'm wrong with how i feel as its my feelings not yours.  So <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

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<cite>Blayk@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well..   i see things diferently and this is a public forum and i can voice my opinion as i choose, the remarks i made where to players that for no reason at all decided to slander another class..  it is fact   players can not be limited by class but a class is indeed always limited by the player (read that in a fourtune cookie ).  im not a troll dont konw whre you get that.. im not just surfing around looking for [Removed for Content] to flame im a necro and proud of it.. i play my class with flawless pressision and when i fail i dont say necros suck and betray i just try harder or decide it's not worth the trouble,  further more if the other posters had said they re rolled a necro because they where tired of not being able to solo their bard,guard,cleric? i would understand,  but the fact is both summoners are strong solo and their aa are equal as well.  </p></blockquote>Awesome post......I knew you could do it!!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>lol   thanks man  </blockquote>So... touching... <teary eyes> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />But anyways, hehe.  I have a 54 conj with ad3 pets and ad1 spells except for the occasionaly master2/ad3 buffs for the pets, and treasured gear on.  I'm good with my class and i know how to play it just fine.  I just don't have time to be bothered with harvesting like mad for rares or doing alot of instance runs (I gots a new baby in the house, i barely got time to sleep lol) so don't go hatin on my about not knowing how to play my class when i say what I'm about to say.  I get tons of compliments from my guild about how well I perform considering the gear im in.I have a friend with a 40-something necro and have played it for a couple weeks or so.  I find it to be more engaging then the conj.  With my conj I feel like the pet is the main and im just following it around debuffing and casting as i can.  The necro feels much more engaged while playing like im a warlock that happens to have a nice pet too.And for god's sake don't take the above broad statements i made as absolute truths.  They are just general opinions of how the classes FEEL to me, you can't tell me how i'm wrong with how i feel as its my feelings not yours.  So <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>yes fine you like necro better but that still dosent mean that conj are not an equal class..  they can still do the dps that necro can and can solo anything a necro can.