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Vendraen
09-27-2007, 11:30 AM
I'm just back to the game from years away, and have a level 31 necro.  The char was made and leveled before there was a such thing as AAs, so he's only got 6.  I'm working on getting lots more, but I'm wondering where to spend them...   Almost all of the AA posts here are for raiding -- but what I need to know is what AAs are best for leveling, mostly solo.

evhallion
09-27-2007, 11:54 AM
<cite>Sevolution@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm just back to the game from years away, and have a level 31 necro.  The char was made and leveled before there was a such thing as AAs, so he's only got 6.  I'm working on getting lots more, but I'm wondering where to spend them...   Almost all of the AA posts here are for raiding -- but what I need to know is what AAs are best for leveling, mostly solo.</blockquote><p>This is from a reply I made in another thread but shows what I think a good solo AA build would be. As for where to start you can start with the KoS STA line to get your tank pet beefed up or the EoF Manipulations line to get Tainted Heals. Personally I think you would see the quickest results going dow the KoS STA line first and it will help as you get the points for tainted heals. Also getting 5 points in the EoF Gravecalling ability Enhance Warrior Pet at anytime will help. After that fill in the rest as you can in whatever order suits you. Hope this helps.</p><p><cite>Sarafan@The Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Though I'm a raiding necro and speced for DPS when we get the house item that allows us to keep 2 AA specs I plan on making one of them a solo spec. The solo spec i'd go for is:</p><p><b><i>KoS (Summoner)</i></b></p><p>Possess Minion - 1</p><p><b>STA: 4-4-8-8</b></p><ul><li>Perceptor's Stamina - 4</li><li>Shockwave - 4</li><li>Perceptor's Command - 8</li><li>Perceptor's Bodyguard - 8</li></ul><p><b>WIS: 4-4-7-8-2</b></p><ul><li>Animist's Wisdom - 4</li><li>Animist's Transference - 4</li><li>Minion's Barrier - 7</li><li>Minion's Uproar - 8</li><li>Animist's Bond - 2</li></ul><p><b><i>EoF (Necromancer)</i></b></p><p><b>Gravecalling:</b> </p><ul><li>Enhance Warrior Pet - 5</li></ul><p><b>Manipulations:</b></p><ul><li>Eternal Chains - 5</li><li>Dispell Magic - 2</li><li>Constrict - 5</li><li>Dread - 3</li><li>Loathsome Mark - 5</li><li>Drawing of Souls - 3</li><li>Tainted Heals - 1</li></ul><p><b>Rotting:</b></p><ul><li>Death Rot - 5</li><li>Deathly Coil - 5</li><li>Torrential Pestilence - 5</li><li>Devour Essence -5</li><li>Lifeburn - 1</li></ul></blockquote>

littleman17
09-27-2007, 02:50 PM
Those are the exact aa's to take if you wish to solo very well, but the order to get them in is: Tainted heals, the stamina skills, the wisdom skills and lifeburn last as doing a massive amount of burst damage while nearly killing yourself isn't as important as being able to keep your pet alive.

BigPapa
09-27-2007, 06:50 PM
<p>A lot of good advice is contained in this thread, there should be one small point of clarification.  IMO The very first AA points should go into the Warrior pet in grave calling,  The damage adsorbtion is irreplacable. This allows you to focus on DPS, which is a good thing, because a dead mob kills no Necro's or their pets. </p>

Vendraen
09-28-2007, 10:33 AM
I've been doing the STA line first as originally advised...  But, should I respec and go the Necro trees first?

BigPapa
09-28-2007, 03:26 PM
<p>In my opinion, the 5 points in the Warrior pet will have the greatest impact.  20% damage absorbtion....20%! You are effectively reducing the DPS of the mobs your tank pat encounters by 20%.  There is no other initial AA that can affect your soloing as dramatically as that. After those five points, I'd do exactly as evhallion instructed. </p><p><b><i>KoS (Summoner)</i></b></p><p>Possess Minion - 1</p><p><b>STA: 4-4-8-8</b></p><ul><li>Perceptor's Stamina - 4 </li><li>Shockwave - 4 </li><li>Perceptor's Command - 8 </li><li>Perceptor's Bodyguard - 8</li></ul><p><b>WIS: 4-4-7-8-2</b></p><ul><li>Animist's Wisdom - 4 </li><li>Animist's Transference - 4 </li><li>Minion's Barrier - 7 </li><li>Minion's Uproar - 8 </li><li>Animist's Bond - 2</li></ul><p><b><i>EoF (Necromancer)</i></b></p><p><b>Gravecalling:</b> </p><ul><li>Enhance Warrior Pet - 5</li></ul><p><b>Manipulations:</b></p><ul><li>Eternal Chains - 5 </li><li>Dispell Magic - 2 </li><li>Constrict - 5 </li><li>Dread - 3 </li><li>Loathsome Mark - 5 </li><li>Drawing of Souls - 3 </li><li>Tainted Heals - 1</li></ul><p><b>Rotting:</b></p><ul><li>Death Rot - 5 </li><li>Deathly Coil - 5 </li><li>Torrential Pestilence - 5 </li><li>Devour Essence -5 </li><li>Lifeburn - 1</li></ul>

BigPapa
09-28-2007, 03:28 PM
<b>YIKES, SORRY FOR THE MIS-ATTRIBUTION!!!!  I'D DO AS <b>Sarafan INSTRUCTED</b></b>

evhallion
09-28-2007, 04:08 PM
<cite>Sevolution@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I've been doing the STA line first as originally advised...  But, should I respec and go the Necro trees first?</blockquote><p>The 5 points in Enhance Warrior Pet will help you early on or at anytime. Main thing you got to consider is AA comes easier at the early lvls as there is so much to explore, so many named not killed yet and collections to turn in. Later on these things get harder to find and the AA points come in more slowly than they use to. So it helps to get those early point in where they will do the most good at that moment. For example Tainted Heals is the Dev's gift to necro soloing but while you are putting 20 points into the Manipulations line to get to it you really are not getting much help at soloing. When you look at the finished line overall then it all looks good, reduced recast on root, stun and fear to proc the heals and increased debuffing. However when you only have 1 point to spend do you get:</p><ol><li> 2% damage absorbtion on your tank pet (Enhance Warrior Pet)</li><li>784 Threat & 12% chance to increase hate position  (Perceptor's Command)</li><li>improve casting speed of Constrict by .1 second (Constrict)</li></ol><p>So you have to look at it in terms of what's going to help me most right now. This of course can vary depending on how you play, spell levels, etc. Like in the above example it's clear 3 by itself isn't going to help much early on. However 1 & 2 look like a toss up. This will be a decision based on your experence at the time. Is your tank holding aggro ok but it is getting beat down faster than you can heal? (Your pet heal is low lvl) Then choice 1 might help you most. Now what if your pet stays up ok but your constantly pulling aggro off it? (Spells are Adept 3) Then choice 2 might be the most help to you at the moment.  So it really comes down to your personal experence to tell you the proper balence.</p>

Belaythien
09-30-2007, 07:50 AM
<cite>BigPapa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In my opinion, the 5 points in the Warrior pet will have the greatest impact.  20% damage absorbtion....20%! You are effectively reducing the DPS of the mobs your tank pat encounters by 20%. </p></blockquote>Does this ability get better at higher char levels or did they nerf it? Putting 5 points there only gives me 10%. Also does that affect all damage or only melee damage?

48kilos
10-20-2007, 07:24 PM
<p>Why not the str line for the added chance to crit and parry?</p><p>I would imaging more crits would make mobs drop faster (so healing is less of an issue) and parry would be helpful to keep your hp up so you can lifeburn.</p>

Norrsken
10-20-2007, 08:04 PM
<cite>48kilos wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why not the str line for the added chance to crit and parry?</p><p>I would imaging more crits would make mobs drop faster (so healing is less of an issue) and parry would be helpful to keep your hp up so you can lifeburn.</p></blockquote>Well, the parry is a tad lackluster, I much prefer other ways of not getting damage during a lifeburn than a low chance of the mob missing me.

littleman17
10-21-2007, 03:57 PM
<p>Because as a solo necro, you should be using your tank pet and should not be getting hit. And if you are getting hit, nothing short of 80% parry is going to save your squishy little life.</p><p>And, the STA line is good and all, but I HIGHLY suggest getting the 5 points in the warrior aa in the necro tree, THEN getting tainted heals. It will drastically improve the survivability of your tank pet. After that, get the sta skills, followed by the WIS skills (thought I suggest flipping the point spread in barrier and uproar... or just putting 8 in both.)</p>

netglen
10-22-2007, 08:58 AM
<cite>48kilos wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why not the str line for the added chance to crit and parry? I would imaging more crits would make mobs drop faster (so healing is less of an issue) and parry would be helpful to keep your hp up so you can lifeburn.</p></blockquote>I'm still leveling my Necro but I can answer this with my Conj experience. What I've experienced with the STR tree is that I usually took aggro away from my tank pet and this was deadly when I was fighting group mobs. All those AA that you invested into TH won't help your Necro if you can't get the mobs taunted away from you. But I guess once the new expansion comes out next month, both Conj & Necros soloists will probably have STR/STA/WIS lines deeply invested.

Scotia_The_Great
10-25-2007, 02:23 PM
<p>How bout putting the points into your warrior pet and then in Str until you get to 20 AA then respec it all into Tainted Heals.  Then you can use the bennie of the pet, increase damage via crits.</p><p>Its not like you are stuck with your choices.  Adapt them when you get to 20 pt and can choose high AA use line. </p>

Kaldrin
10-29-2007, 04:31 PM
I just acquired my Tainted Heals and I gotta say it's amazingly good compared to before. My tank pet (AdeptIII) at 30 can tank two ^^^ (albeit at -4 levels) and one at even level. I'm used up and empty on power by the time the fight is over, but it still makes a huge difference.

netglen
10-30-2007, 08:56 AM
I'm having a blast with my L.41 Necro and I have 58 AA that I've been experimenting with. So far after a respec or two, I'm pretty much following BigPapa's EoF trees. But I'm still kicking around what to do with the Summoner side of things. I'm working down the STA tree but I'm still up in the air in regards to the WIS and STR trees. Maybe I shouldn't even care since  the expansion is about to come out and I'll probably take both of those trees anyway.

Boophead
11-14-2007, 03:58 AM
<p>Tagged</p>

Raedu
11-21-2007, 01:23 AM
um....necro aa's in the warrior pet only reduce dmg by 10% not 25%?

Xamy
12-15-2007, 07:13 AM
Hi first post here<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I'm trying to decide how to spend AA and i find this good post but i saw that the Enhance Warrior Pet damage absorption is just 10%, not 20% like all say in this post. It is still worth starting with that or the reduced bonus suggest i start with tainted heals?Thank you for the help<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Xamyr

Xamy
12-16-2007, 09:53 AM
None can help me with that?X.

Mirrian
12-16-2007, 12:35 PM
I would still go for the enhanced warrior pet, I noticed a big difference in my pets durability with those AA's. Once I got those then I started on Tainted. Dont forget to cast your root/snare type spells a lot to get your skill up as you go, I wasnt casting those at all and when I started I think my skill was at 10 or something, it was kind of funny.

evhallion
12-16-2007, 06:24 PM
<cite>Xamyr2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hi first post here<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />I'm trying to decide how to spend AA and i find this good post but i saw that the Enhance Warrior Pet damage absorption is just 10%, not 20% like all say in this post. It is still worth starting with that or the reduced bonus suggest i start with tainted heals?Thank you for the help<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />Xamyr</blockquote><p>My personal opinion is that until you have 21 points to spend, going down Tainted Heals isn't doing anything to help you lvl. Everyone seems to look at it <b>AFTER</b> you spend that 21st point and have Tainted Heal but forget til you have the endline ability the line is next to useless for soloing. Once you get the endline, Yes at that point it's the greatest thing you could have for soloing but when you only have 19 AA total and the only AA you have is</p><li>Eternal Chains - 5 </li><li>Dispell Magic - 2 </li><li>Constrict - 5 </li><li>Dread - 3 </li><li>Loathsome Mark - 4</li><p>That hasn't been helping you solo much has it?</p><p>So until you get 21 points and can <b>Respec </b>it into Tainted Heals I'd recommend you invest in the Summoner STA line and yes 5 points in the Necro Enhance Warrior pet. Matter of fact spend your first 5 AA there (Enhance Warrior) as nothing else will help your soloing better with those first 5 points. After that start working your way down STA til you can respec into Tainted Heals at 21 AA. After respecing start over putting 5 into EW again and going down STA as so:</p><ul><li>Perceptor's Stamina - 4 </li><li>Shockwave - 4 </li><li>Perceptor's Command - 8 </li><li>Perceptor's Bodyguard - 8</li></ul><p>After that you can go back and fill in Shockwave to 8 if you wish. After that work down WIS line as so:</p><li>Animist's Wisdom - 4 </li><li>Animist's Transference - 4 </li><li><b>Minion's Barrier - 8</b></li><p>(optional) If you wish you can also continue on and pick up:</p><li>Minion's Uproar - 8 </li><li>Animist's Bond - 2 (use this only for emergency as it eats up all your pets power to keep it alive and without that he has no CAs to keep taunting and all it has is Perceptor's Command to keep aggro)</li><p>From that point on fill in as you feel needed as your tank pet has got just about all the help AA is going to give it. Hope that helps.</p>

Xamy
12-17-2007, 05:55 PM
Thank you Sarafan, you helped me a lot.Now i have to gather as much AA exp as i can.Thank you again to everyone for the help...X.

Allyle
12-26-2007, 05:59 PM
I am in the same boat as the OP; returning to the game after a long absence. My lvl 44 Necro had no AAs when I first started. Because I solo a lot, I went after tainted heals. Best choice ever. I have no problem solo'ing mobs 8-9 levels above me and heroic ^^^ of even or yellow con die quick because I can just chain heal my pet. I'd go Tainted Heals first. Everything else is just gravy and can wait.

Grumble69
12-27-2007, 07:45 PM
I put the first 5 in the warrior pet.  Then the next 21 went to get tainted heals.  Then I went down the wisdom line 4-4-8-8.  About that the time I finished that, I was getting to the point where I was drawing aggro more.  So then I went down the stamina line 4-4-8.  When you're at this point, you're at a fantastic solo position and you've got some freedom to play around.  Maybe you go after lifeburn.  Or you could start going down str to get those crits.  Or you could work on that sorc pet.  Or you could finish out stamina (4-4-8-<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  Not only does it give your pet an extra 20% HPs, but you heal more from tainted heals as well.Personally I finished sta out and then beefed up undead tide (I've got the master version of the spell).  I still don't have lifeburn, but I'm headed that way now.  I'll finish my AAs with str.   But this is a pure solo/duo build.

Slyym
01-03-2008, 11:19 AM
Initially I put the first 5 points in the warrior pet enhancement, then I went down the Rotting line (was just about at lifeburn) before I realized that I should have gone down the Manipulations line for Tainted Heals. THEN I read this post =) and learned (and agree) that I should beef up my pet first...so I used the free respec and my gameplan is now:- 5 points into warrior pet enhancement (Gravecalling) (<-- complete)- Stamina line: 4,4,8,4 (going to go 4,4,8,8 )- Start and complete Tainted Heals- in the air about going for Lifeburn or WIS line after tainted heals Jeez, decisions decisions. I concur with Sarafan that beefing up the pet is most important, so I think I'm gonna ride it out and go with what I listed above, but, if I do choose to respec once more (and go 5 into warrior pet, then the rest for tainted heals right away) what NPC do I visit (in Freeport) to do that?Cheers,

DrOctober
01-03-2008, 03:24 PM
Um, I'd get into TH first.  Then 5 points in enhance warrior, then make the move to the summoner lines (I like sta and wis).While the various pet enhancements are nice, the long term survivability that TH gives will more than make up for any additional toughness you can wrangle out via other aa's.To respec in Freeport, head to the Academy of Arcane Sciences in NFP (mage guild) and go downstairs.  Achievement counselor is there.

Slyym
01-04-2008, 01:41 PM
DrOctober - thanks for the advice. I took it. Respec'd and went for Tainted Heals and put my remaining 4 points into  the warrior pet enhancement - went back to EL and hit a pack of 4-5 Fog Grimmins that I was having trouble soloing (for a quest) and guess what! I beat them all! My power useage was actually pretty healthy as well, I just kept chaining and throwing in the occasional AdeptIII pet heal to keep him up in the yellow / green - lifetap'd to recoup my own health loss. He went orange a few times but never in red.Tainted Heals is certainly kick butt, I am glad I respec'd.I also figured out how cool the implied targeting system is. Before yesterday I found that I was always targeting the mobs my pet was engaged with (when multiple mob encounters) trying to figure out which he was working on (from my EQ1 days I suppose)...now I've figured out that I can simply keep my pet targeted (all the time) and use the manipulation spells to keep him healthy, throw in a debuff (swarm of bats etc) because it will always land on whatever mob he is on...Cool! (yes I'm still a newb =))Cheers,

Griffildur
01-07-2008, 09:33 AM
<p>I suggest you look at the trees and sort out what will help your play style most.</p><p>My decisions was quite simple ... I put 5 points in pet defense first getting it 10% damage resistance. then went down the line with TH at the end. after that I moved to summoner tree and went down Sta line till i had 8 point in pet health thinggie giving a 20% more health . Next was STR line for parry and spell crits. So far I invested 4 points in spell crits but plan to get 8. </p><p>Yes STR line can take aggro off your pet if you're not carefull but if you don't start blasting away with lifetab from the very beginning then you should be fine. I usually steal aggro towards the end of the fight and if it happens before that then you still have 2 ways of losing it. one is the class ability that makes you drop 1 hate position and the other ... perceptor's command ? These are enough to control aggro, but again you must know when to use them. The first one also teleports you to a random position within a 10m radius (i think )  so it's obvious you don't use it in areas where you have runners or lots of aggro mobs nearby. My advice is to not really choose one line because someone else uses it. People have different play styles. Try them first, make up your own oppinion and then go ahead and test it. this way you will find what work best for you. Simple as that .</p>

Griffildur
01-07-2008, 09:38 AM
<p>to Grumble69 : </p><p> you heal more when you put points into pet's health because the heal always works as a percentage of the pet's health. when you level up your pet's health goes up as well therefore , again you heal for more. I am 60 now and the manipulation spells heal for about 2200 and if they crit for around 2800 i think. </p>

Wikeewikee
01-09-2008, 02:51 PM
<p>Aye I just came back to the game and started playing my 31 necro again.  I just got tainted heals and must say its a game changeing/soloist dream.  Its amazing. My pets almost never low on health.  Also as soon as I had the chance i put all my points for tainted heals. Now I'm putting points back into war pet. </p><p>New to the game but that seems to be the best choice.</p>

urosei
01-14-2008, 07:07 AM
the AA in the wisdom tree to increase 16% "closer" towards the defense cap, how effective is this actually? the way they word it has me very confused, and as im currently putting pts in it cause im done with sta tree and have th, i can't help but think maybe im wasting my pointsany input?

Miztery
01-14-2008, 08:22 AM
<cite>urosei wrote:</cite><blockquote>the AA in the wisdom tree to increase 16% "closer" towards the defense cap, how effective is this actually? the way they word it has me very confused, and as im currently putting pts in it cause im done with sta tree and have th, i can't help but think maybe im wasting my pointsany input?</blockquote><p>Sure mate, I'll give ya some input on that.</p><p>The only debatable line in this entire solo setup, is in fact the wis line.</p><p>TH, LB and STA line are imho, all must-haves. However, once you have all those, the difference in solo ability with or without the WIS line isnt that great, barely noticeable if we are talking Tank pet. However, one of the great things about the WIS line, is that it affects all your pets, and thus makes you a better group asset as well, with your solo spec.</p><p>However, the str line is even more so a great group asset, ONLY for the spell crit increase of 12%, which will put you at maybe 20-25% with just semi decent gear.</p><p>This is the dabate I'm sure many a Necro's are having with them selves: WIS line or STR line. (Better pets all around, or big DPS increase (and agro increase, hehe) with Spell Crit.</p><p>The easy solution is of course just to get an AA mirror, and have 1 full out Solo spec with the WIS line, and a more group friendly DPS spec for...well grouping <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Ron
01-15-2008, 01:52 PM
<cite>BigPapa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In my opinion, the 5 points in the Warrior pet will have the greatest impact.  20% damage absorbtion....20%! You are effectively reducing the DPS of the mobs your tank pat encounters by 20%.  There is no other initial AA that can affect your soloing as dramatically as that. After those five points, I'd do exactly as evhallion instructed. </p><p><b><i>EoF (Necromancer)</i></b></p><p><b>Gravecalling:</b> </p><ul><li>Enhance Warrior Pet - 5</li></ul><p><b>Manipulations:</b></p><ul><li>Eternal Chains - 5 </li><li>Dispell Magic - 2 </li><li>Constrict - 5 </li><li>Dread - 3 </li><li>Loathsome Mark - 5 </li><li>Drawing of Souls - 3 </li><li>Tainted Heals - 1</li></ul></blockquote><p>OK, my book shows a few different names for these, are these correct? </p><p><b>Manipulations:</b></p><ul><li>Eternal Chains - 5     / Enhance:<b><u>Enchain</u></b></li><li>Dispell Magic - 2        / Enhance: Dispel Magic</li><li>Constrict - 5              / Enhance:<b><u>Grasp</u></b></li><li>Dread - 3                   / Enhance:<b><u>Fear</u></b></li><li>Loathsome Mark - 5  / Enhance:<b><u>Grisley Mark</u></b></li><li>Drawing of Souls - 3 / Enhance: Drawing of Souls</li><li>Tainted Heals - 1      / <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /></li></ul><p>And I'm correct in thinking that there are no points in Enhance:Necromantic Mark? Also where would the 20 points go at first?</p><li>Enhance:Enchain<b> - 5</b></li><li>Enhance: Dispel Magic <b>- 1</b></li><li>Enhance:Grasp<b> - 5</b></li><li>Enhance:Fear<b> - 3</b></li><li>Enhance:Grisley Mark<b> - 3</b></li><li>Enhance: Drawing of Souls <b>- 3</b></li><li>Tainted Heals<b> - 1</b></li><p>I figured the Enchain & Grasp get all 5 to reduce the recast for more heals. I'm at 18 points now and I have the 5 in Warrior pet, and then the Rotting Line, will respec after the next 3 AA's (which should be real soon)</p><p>Thanks!</p><p><b>Edited to add:</b>  I don't even get Drawing of Souls until lvl52, I will have 21 AA's at lvl26-27(at 25 now) Where should those 3 go?</p>

Ron
01-19-2008, 11:08 PM
<cite>Ronus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>OK, my book shows a few different names for these, are these correct? </p><p><b>Manipulations:</b></p><ul><li>Eternal Chains - 5     / Enhance:<b><u>Enchain</u></b></li><li>Dispell Magic - 2        / Enhance: Dispel Magic</li><li>Constrict - 5              / Enhance:<b><u>Grasp</u></b></li><li>Dread - 3                   / Enhance:<b><u>Fear</u></b></li><li>Loathsome Mark - 5  / Enhance:<b><u>Grisley Mark</u></b></li><li>Drawing of Souls - 3 / Enhance: Drawing of Souls</li><li>Tainted Heals - 1      / <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /></li></ul><p>And I'm correct in thinking that there are no points in Enhance:Necromantic Mark? Also where would the 20 points go at first?</p><li>Enhance:Enchain<b> - 5</b></li><li>Enhance: Dispel Magic <b>- 1</b></li><li>Enhance:Grasp<b> - 5</b></li><li>Enhance:Fear<b> - 3</b></li><li>Enhance:Grisley Mark<b> - 3</b></li><li>Enhance: Drawing of Souls <b>- 3</b></li><li>Tainted Heals<b> - 1</b></li><p>I figured the Enchain & Grasp get all 5 to reduce the recast for more heals. I'm at 18 points now and I have the 5 in Warrior pet, and then the Rotting Line, will respec after the next 3 AA's (which should be real soon)</p><p>Thanks!</p><p><b>Edited to add:</b>  I don't even get Drawing of Souls until lvl52, I will have 21 AA's at lvl26-27(at 25 now) Where should those 3 go?</p></blockquote><li>Enhance:Enchain<b> - 5</b></li><li>Enhance: Dispel Magic <b>- 2</b></li><li>Enhance:Grasp<b> - 5</b></li><li>Enhance:Fear<b> - 3</b></li><li>Enhance:Grisley Mark<b> - 5</b></li><li>Tainted Heals<b> - 1</b></li>This is what I went with, seems to be working so far <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kraglor
03-29-2008, 02:49 PM
<p>Not sure if anyone is reading this thread anymore, but I have a question.</p><p>I'm new back to the game (several weeks playing), when I left they had just began the AA stuff, and I never used them. Right now, I'm at 68, and have 53 AA pts - which I've distributed throught he STA line, and TH. This thread has been full of superb advise, IMHO.</p><p>Here's my question.</p><p>I never hear anyone talking about the  benefits of beefing up Drawing of Souls for the STR/INT debuff. </p><p>By maxing this out (along with the Grisly Mark STA/WIS debuff), aren't you immediatly reducing the mobs HP (STA) AND hitting power (STR) i.e mob dies faster and hits for less? Or am I missing something about how the debuffs work - or, are the mob's stats just starting so high our debuffs don't really amount to much?</p><p>I swear, I see the mobs falling faster and the pet staying healthier when I hit them with these debuffs... </p><p>What I've done is, Root-3, Dispel-1, Necromantic-5, Fear-3, Grisly-5 and Drawing-5.</p><p>This still leaves me with a very quick heal (Dispel) if I should need it. </p>

sirmorte
03-29-2008, 04:16 PM
<p>The general thinking among of the top necros is to finish the Tainted heal, Gravecalling, and  the Stamina line. There is very little dispute when it comes to these lines. After this, it becomes more debatable. Most necros recommend going down the Wisdom line because it benefits all of your pets. I also just found out that the Wisdom line gives a 32% increase in combat and casting damage of your pets in addition to the potential 16% increase in defense for all pets. This, in my opinion outweighs the strength line.</p><p> Once you get your 100 AA points, the choices become less clear. Most high end necros recommend going down the pet line and geting your Ooze pet. It give you more choices in pets and having stronger warrior, and mage pets are great. In addition shortening the combat ability timers found in the pet line is always a good thing.</p><p> As for your final 20 points, my personal recommendation is Intelligence. You really can't go wrong with having more Intelligence. In addition the mage pet is the most used pet in raids and groups,which the intelligence line benefits greatly.</p><p> Mortel, Level 71 Necro, 72 Sage</p><p>Permafrost Server</p><p>House of Rising Phoenix.</p>