Request for help fighting SK's in pvp

[Zacarus]

I rolled a Pally on Naggy.  I've never taken a toon to 70 and thought it might be fun with a pally.I decided to go most of the way up, unlocked.  That's new for me, as I'm usually an AA [Removed for Content].  But I figured I could pick up the 100 by 70 so I'm not sweating it.  So far, at adventure level 27, I'm above my AA target, so that's good.Here's the rub.  I'm 90% focused on quests, and leveling.  But of course, I'll pick up a pvp fight, by choice, or cuz I'm ganked, along the way.  I've not fared too badly.  Scouts, the ones I've encountered, are pretty easy.  A couple brigs gave me a scare, but I was able to get the ward up, and from there it goes pretty well.  I was owned by a warlock 1 v 1, but he was locked, above my level, with manashield, etc. so I'm tossing that out the window.  Other mages I've rolled.  Have only fought a couple healers, both defilers.  Either these defilers sucked, or Pally's line up well against them (all our stuns + interrupt?) cuz I took them easily.  So I can't tell yet how well I'll do against other healers.  Overall, its gone smoothly... except for SK's.  They own me.  Oh the fights are close.  Long, even at my relatively low level.  The fights are fun too.  However I've lost at least 4 out of 5 times.In one case (last night, grr) the SK was blue to me, gear not as good, and according to eq2 players, fewer aa than me.  And he still beat me.I'm digging this paladin gig.  The toon is totally fun in pvp, and pve.  Lots of great options, play styles, etc.  But I need some pointers regarding how to tame the mighty SK.Any tips for the late tier 3, soon to be tier 4 pally, regarding how to fight sk's?

[Muraazi]

SKs are a good fight for a paladin. I am not a pally anymore but I was until lvl 50, and am probably going to betray again because of friends. That aside, SKs burn power immensely fast. Try and burn them out with warding and playing defensively. I don't have alot of exp fighting SKs myself tho. Watch for the HT, the SK will probably try and time HT when you are low hps to finish you off and negate your LoH. Don't blow LoH too early, thats your counter weight to HT. In the end I believe pally vs SK fights are a power game.

[Zacarus]

It definitely appears to be a power-conversation type fight.  I've read elsewhere that some pallys stick themselves into "auto-attack / keep the ward up" mode while fighting healers.  Does this same tactic work against SK's?I know SK's are tough in tier 3 because HT is new.  I would have thought Pally's are a good counter-point with LoH but so far that hasn't been the case (for me).  Do things balance out in later tiers?

[g0thiC_iCe_cReaM]

<p>just having /duel'd a similarly equipped SK at 70 i noticed you will both run out of power and just sit there auto attacking eachother into a stalemate for like an hour...</p><p>keep in mind this is all observations from /dueling SKs on PvE at 70, it's pretty similar to PvP, but PvP has slightly different mechanics from what it seems to me:</p><p>one thing to keep in mind is watch out for the SK using his ward, the ward has a lifetap on it, so everytime you hit him it's going to damage you, probably want to get your ward up everytime you see him pull out his and just auto attack him, it only lasts for like 5 hits, so if you can mitigate the damage from it with your ward and still have it up when his expires you will be in good shape...</p><p>you have to watch out for their pet too...aeing the pet to death is a good idea since they don't have many HP but the combo of the SK and his pet will burn you down faster than you can burn down the SK, the pet is on a minute to minute and a half recast, so expect to see it a few times...the pet you get (not the little lion) from worshiping marr may help if you're going to use miracles, but only use it when the SK is out of power, it won't help any time before that b/c they'll just use their ward and get healed while the marr pet (squire) is beating on them</p><p>SKs and pallys fighting eachother is a long fight, and it's going to come down to who has the biggest power pool for the most part and who can manage their power better, if you can frustrate the SK into burning power you have a much better change than if you try to out dps him early on, almost everything a SK does has a lifetap on it, so they're just going to be healing themselves with 50% of their attacks until their power is out...keep clarity potions on you, the power over time regen is going to save you in a long fight like that...if you can get a vessel of fyr'un and a manastone and combo that with your ward you might also have a chance...a good HoT potion helps mitigate the damage from those power boosting items without having to use power yourself to heal the damage from using them...of course get masters or at least ad3s of all your heals and your ward as well</p><p>disease resists are a must when dealing with a SK, they're going to debuff your disease resists if they are any good, and it's going to cost you in the end with thier disease DoTs...disease resists also help mitigate HT, disease resist potions and disease cure potions help for their DoTs...castigate is your friend as well, but don't waste it just doing damage, wait till he lands a DoT on you...similarly, debuff their divine damage, but don't waste power on it if you're getting low...use your oath strike line more than anything, DoT > direct damage in a long fight</p><p>unfortunately i gave up pvp, played a brig, took down many a pally keeping them chain stunned and making them lose target over and over <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Excalibre33]

<p>It was dueling SKs that habitually owned me that made me start my little turtle tactic. </p><p>I toggle auto attack off quite a bit when fighting SKs since there's no reason to waste power on warding/healing myself to mitigate the lifetap. My tactic is one of intimidation... simply kick them around with blur vision when their life tap drops. I do very little damage to them but they percieve my onsluaght to be torrential and will chain ward until they burn their powerbar thinking they have to. Blur vision is awesome when fighting other players. It causes panic.</p><p>I basically turtle down when dueling and keep moving to flank them and strafe backwards with the occasional bow shot and kick in the butt... until they waste their power bar... then swap stances and pull out the cannon. I've had pretty good luck with this and stole wins from SKs that way outmatched me. An SK that knows how Paladins work and keeps their head through the duel is pretty much the toughest thing to square off against besides a brig.</p><p>I picked a bunch of fights with SKs when dueling was new just because it really urked me that they seemed to always win even with me slugging potions like water. I looked over their hotbar and got a good feel for how I would play an SK then found success. Brigs still thrash me and there's a few brawlers on my server that I know I'll never see a win from.</p><p>I know you're on a PvP server so, I doubt my tidbit helps but figured I post since I feel'ya about the SK frustration and wasted a week of my life picking fights to figure out something that worked for me against them.</p>

[therodge]

<p>not to toot my own horn but i have dueled and beat sks far better geared then me and their is two main things to keep in mind,</p><p> 1.resists at your level this is probobly the downfall becuase of the lack of resist gear but as someone who has raided no farther then labs can push any resist past 11k if i have to do that any sk will be eating out of your hand.</p><p>2. take it slow let them burn their mana if reaver speced they are screwed.</p><p>suggestions</p><p>1. use your divine debuff asap and hit them with all your harder spells expecially (sworn strike at that level?) then let them freak for awile, btw smite evil is priceless if you dont have it its worth respecing for.</p><p>2. bring mana potions</p><p>3. fights gonna be long chances are one of you will be ganked by then</p>

[Muraazi]

<cite>therodge wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>not to toot my own horn but i have dueled and beat sks far better geared then me and their is two main things to keep in mind,</p><p> 1.resists at your level this is probobly the downfall becuase of the lack of resist gear but as someone who has raided no farther then labs can push any resist past 11k if i have to do that any sk will be eating out of your hand.</p><p>2. take it slow let them burn their mana if reaver speced they are screwed.</p><p>suggestions</p><p>1. use your divine debuff asap and hit them with all your harder spells expecially (sworn strike at that level?) then let them freak for awile, <b>btw smite evil is priceless if you dont have it its worth respecing for.</b></p><p>2. bring mana potions</p><p>3. fights gonna be long chances are one of you will be ganked by then</p></blockquote>Werd, And the fact that it doesn't cost any power means, if you are both are outta power = you win.

[ChopStix]

<p>the problem with paladins are.</p><p>they dont do enough damage in pvp, and thier heals arent enough to make up for the damage other classes are putting out.. </p>

[morningmists]

<p>wait til 52 when running an SK out of power before you just won't happen...</p><p>they leach your power and gain some back themselves</p><p>Having played as a raiding SK for a year, and now being an EH/IS clearing tanking paladin for the last 6 months, I can tell you me as an SK would always win against me as a paly given equivalent gear</p>

[MikeMatsumo]

ok,you need ready all posts here:<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=371077" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=371077</a>right now im using full sta and int line. (love that reflect spell) but all others stuffs in post still working.healers/fighters are the most easy fights for you as a pally.DONT SPEND YOUR POWER!all fights against healers/sk/guar/zerk will take a lot time. can be 5-15m. its normal.at the end will win who save more power. potition for power, potition for cure and potion for ward you againts dise and poison.theres new tricks in that posts. like: wait for sk/healer/guard or any class that just dont die faster take you to 15%-20%. dont do nothing. give just a few single heal and keep you in 15% for while. believe me, when they see you in 15% they will start use all power that they have for kill you. when you saw that they have less power then you use Celestial touch and then start cast debuffs, smite evil, castigate and wards ONLY...keep autoattacking.soon they power goes down you start cast dps.ready the forum...