The Root Spell

[Igniz]

<p>Is it just me, or does this seem to break all the time, even when you're not doing damage?</p><p>Also, the snare spell, how many people run around kiting with the snare? Is that more reliable than trying to root someone over and over?</p><p>Talking from PvE persepctive.</p>

[DemonMage]

The root and snare AAs help a lot with this. With Pred and snare you can pretty easily kite things around given enough space. Generally snare is there to help give you time to land another root before it gets a chance to swing at you.

[Igniz]

Pity I don't have EoF, I assume my problems persist without it.

[DarumaRanger]

<p>DISCLAIMER : I ask this out of curiosity as to how others play and not... NOT... as a criticism.</p><p>Why do you ever use root?</p><p>I'm Lv 60 and never, not since getting it, trying it literally a couple times and seeing it break... have I ever used root.</p><p>I solo probably 95%, if not more, of the time.  I just draw the mob(s) in with our thunder DD, start HO, throw out the encounter DD, (Starvariable), finish HO with a cold DoT, throw out swarm DoT, wail away with my sword, HoT if necessary, and then use the thunder nuke again.  More often than not any +1 solo mob or lower is dead with the 2nd round of thunder DD and I'm at full HP from my HoT.</p><p>I don't even use root on ^, ^^, or low blue/green ^^^ mobs... just keep myself healed while my melee, damage shield, and melee procs help to beat down the mobs.</p><p>I've never even put root on my hotkey banks and it's still at APP I.</p><p>I'm just curious why you might feel the need to root?  Even when I get multiple mobs I've never felt the need to CC via rooting... I just heal through the pain, hehehe.</p><p>This is certainly a good way of keeping your defense, weapon skills, and more importantly FOCUS, maxed.</p><p>Anyway, just curious... there certainly may be a better way to play than the way I'm playing... I'm far and away NOT the best, (or even really that good), MMO player out there <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Take care.</p><p>P.S. Even before I had any DD nukes, (pre-level 23 play), I never rooted.  Same method outlined above... just took longer only having DoTs, hehe</p>

[Skooter_WRX]

Well rooting is a good way to deal with heroics when soloing and other tough mobs that can overcome your healing ability.  Also mobs that stifle and stun quite often your going to have some problems if your not keeping them at a distance.I rarely use root but when I do I am generally trying to kill a mob that interrupts quite often or is heroic (and I am soloing).I don't think it is one of those spells that you will be using all of the time but it does come in handy every once and a while.Back to the original question.  I have noticed that even when I am not doing damage the root effect will dispel.  I figure that some mobs have a CA or spell that can remove the root effect (ie remove trauma/arcane) and just cast snare and re-root if need be. I only use snare if I am going to die and need to get out of there quick and don't want the mob too close behind me or when I am rooting mobs and using my dots.  You figure that the root is going to break and the snare just gives you some extra time to hit it with another root before it starts to beat on you.

[DemonMage]

"<span class="postbody">I don't even use root on ^, ^^, or low blue/green ^^^ mobs... just keep myself healed while my melee, damage shield, and melee procs help to beat down the mobs."And what about white or yellow heroics? Or do you just ignore them? Those are chiefly what I use it on. I'll also often root the ^^^ and deal with the others before dealing with the main one in group heroic encounters.For the last poster, your root can break early even if you do no damage because there is a resist check each tic, which the AA also makes more difficult to succeed at.</span>

[kcirrot]

<cite>DarumaRanger wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>DISCLAIMER : I ask this out of curiosity as to how others play and not... NOT... as a criticism.</p><p>Why do you ever use root?</p><p>I'm Lv 60 and never, not since getting it, trying it literally a couple times and seeing it break... have I ever used root.</p><p>I solo probably 95%, if not more, of the time.  I just draw the mob(s) in with our thunder DD, start HO, throw out the encounter DD, (Starvariable), finish HO with a cold DoT, throw out swarm DoT, wail away with my sword, HoT if necessary, and then use the thunder nuke again.  More often than not any +1 solo mob or lower is dead with the 2nd round of thunder DD and I'm at full HP from my HoT.</p><p>I don't even use root on ^, ^^, or low blue/green ^^^ mobs... just keep myself healed while my melee, damage shield, and melee procs help to beat down the mobs.</p><p>I've never even put root on my hotkey banks and it's still at APP I.</p><p>I'm just curious why you might feel the need to root?  Even when I get multiple mobs I've never felt the need to CC via rooting... I just heal through the pain, hehehe.</p><p>This is certainly a good way of keeping your defense, weapon skills, and more importantly FOCUS, maxed.</p><p>Anyway, just curious... there certainly may be a better way to play than the way I'm playing... I'm far and away NOT the best, (or even really that good), MMO player out there <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Take care.</p><p>P.S. Even before I had any DD nukes, (pre-level 23 play), I never rooted.  Same method outlined above... just took longer only having DoTs, hehe</p></blockquote>I use it to keep heroic adds off me and to solo blue and up heroics.  It took a long time to get my subjugation up but with that and an ADIII root, I almost never see root break before it's done.I don't use root all the time, but it's a good tool.

[HBP]

I use my root all the time when soloing....mostly ^^^ heroics.  It occasionlly breaks, but I combine it with snare too so I can root it again before the mob gets to me.  But I also go after white/yellow ^^^ when soloing too<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[DarumaRanger]

<p>Hey... I TOLD you guys I'm not a very good player <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>You're right... I avoid high blue and higher ^^^ mobs.  Frankly, in 60 levels I haven't had to fight them... I have so many quests, (and with portals getting around is easy), that I can always level up on other quests and come back to those when they're green.  Nor do I farm names mobs.  <shrugs> Works for me.</p><p>I do however understand that if you wish to take on that harder content... then yes... I see why root is important.</p><p>Again, just wanted to reiterate... I wasn't dissing... I was curious as to why folks use root... harder, closer to you in level, ^^^ heroics, possibly named farming? would be a good reason to have, and use, a strong root. </p><p>Take care folks.</p>

[Chaosfairie27]

I really didn't use my root at lower levels so I'm not sure about it breaking, it doesn't break very much at all now.  I use it a ton now, especially when I solo.  I don't have to worry so much about healing myself and can use Energy Vortex to get off more damage before the root ends.

[Rattfa]

<cite>DarumaRanger wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why do you ever use root?</p></blockquote>I use root all the time when soloing poets or achadechism etc...otherwise i wouldnt last very long

[DarumaRanger]

<cite>Rattface@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DarumaRanger wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why do you ever use root?</p></blockquote>I use root all the time when soloing poets or achadechism etc...otherwise i wouldnt last very long</blockquote><p>Ahhh... see... not there yet... at least not solo <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Actually I just ran Poet's last week with my guild for the first time, (for me), and funny you should mention Acadechism... we were JUST today discussing whether to hit that place tonight or another Poet's run, hehehe.</p><p>I guess once I hit Lv 70 and can attempt solo'ing some of those spots I'll be more apt to start using Root.</p><p>Thanks.</p><p>Take care.</p>

[TheBu]

<p>the root is one of the best roots in the game.It % to break is much lower than a wiz. and u know how wiz lov to solo with ther roots.Just make sure u get ur subjugation up... also be aware of what breaks a root. dots are not a great idea.</p>

[Catsy]

Without root/snare, I would not be able to solo tough named or white/yellow/high blue ^^^ heroics. Before I learned how to use these tools, I could sometimes pull it off, but it was usually a matter of luck. With these tools, this is how I usually do it:1. Hibernate.2. While casting that, queue the root.3. While casting that, queue the snare.4. If at any time root or snare fall below 5 seconds remaining, reapply them immediately, prioritizing the root. 5. If at any time the root breaks, stop what you are doing and reapply it immediately. Kite if necessary, but watch for adds. 6. If either resists, apply it as quickly as possible. Kite if necessary. 7. Start casting Thunderbolt. While this is casting, hit Energy Vortex--it's a toggle, so you can toggle it on during spellcasting and it will affect the spell being cast when it completes.8. Starnova.9. DO NOT USE DOTS. While waiting for the big nukes to cycle, apply debuffs: Swarm (if mob is a caster), Intimidation, and Hex Doll.10. Regrowth whenever I drop below 70% health or so.11. Manastone whenever it comes up to maintain power.12. Engage Energy Vortex whenever it refreshes, as long as your health is green. This is pretty well fool-proof. The only way I have died doing this is from repops, stupidly kiting into adds, or bad luck with root resists. The name of the game is patience. Put on your best DPS gear (minus anything that procs DOTs), and use the druid AA buff for spell crits rather than heal crits.If you are going to do this, get your root mastered. It will not be cheap. And Adept 3 will certainly help. But the improvement with the master is noticeable.

[Mimzel]

You should try to use your root as often as you have spare time and power. If not you'll end up like i did, having to max it from like 0 - 300 or whatever the max is, and let me tell you - it takes a loooong time! Better to use it on mobs your approprate level from 1 - 70. It will definately come in handy for later.

[Miele]

Root is a great spell, keep your subjugation maxed and with root (and energy vortex) you can kill pretty much everything that is rootable, if you are good, you can kill 2 ^^^ your level without too many problems (it can be stressing on power, but it's doable).It's also a valid CC tool in group situations if your group will react and move the fight a bit away from the rooted mob.Root and snare are good spells, get used to take advantage from them in any situation, you'll not regret it.

[Vendraen]

Is there a root spell that lasts longer than the measly 12 seconds our first root lasts for?   That's my main problem with root/snare in EQ2 (vs. EQ1) -- the horribly short durations.  I can't do much in between having to re-cast them!

[Catsy]

Subsequent upgrades to the spell last longer, just like most other classes. Elddar's Grasp lasts for 32s.

[sorinev]

I had to go outside of game and google around to find out that yes, we do get a root after 49 (only been back to game about a month after a year and a half gone). Since I've been back, I've never done any broker search that yielded post-49 results for Fury roots. No apprentice, adept of any kind, or master. Ever. At all. I guess it's to do with the 3 or 4 billion furies running around now. I guess I'm going to have to get a moonstone and get it adept 3ed, if it really is going to matter. Because apprentice 4 of the level 49 root (all I could find) was complete garbage. Broke after 5 seconds, no hostile actions whatsoever. And get my subjugation up from 250 or whatever it is.

[kingsnipe]

If not made clear by others or suggested on root spell make it a macro with snare, with snare being being fast cast anyway it insures that if root breaks good chance mob willl be snared. I also keep an icon of just snare next to the macro of root/snare but seldom do I ever need to use. The macro works like a charm. FYI I also never found use for root snare useful till I got pred and put max AA into root snare line. I now find myself able to solo even lev 72 ^^^ heroics (as of this time have not had chance yet to try higher lev mobs)  something I would never dreamed possible when I first started playing fury 2 and half years ago.

[kahonen]

The day I got the root spell was the day my fury came of age.  The root/snare combination is, IMHO, second to none.I have an almost daily round of named mobs I solo just to get the cash to pay meder's bills for raids.I have no probs with: Ancient Abomination (Bonemire), Earthlord (Bonemire), big named spider (Bonemire), Agressor Khranz (Nest), Ancient Warmachine (Acadechism) and a few others when I can find them.  Hell, I don't even have too much of a problem with the gargoyles outside of Mistmoore Castle (level 73^^^) on the odd occasion I pull them when I get bored waiting to go into MMIS.OK, root isn't perfect and it does break sometimes, even at M1, but that's part of the fun.  A lot of these mobs break the root and you got probs, you just accept it and go again.To the poster that said he doesn't use root because it breaks so he's never bothered to upgrade above App 1, you've prolly answerded your own question.  Upgrade it and give it a go.  You haven't played a fury until you do!

[CodeKill]

I used snare for 2 yrs before the root spell came out, and when it did I could root most mobs with few breaks, but don't use dots. If you want root to be break, then do it up with the DOT's. Snaring everything also helps build up your trait to 300.