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namax
09-18-2007, 11:16 AM
<p>Greetings - </p><p>On my swashy I had been Str/Wis and using the Axe of the Bloodbeast.  I don't have many weapons to choose from, but I also have Shadow Axe, which is the same 2.5 sec delay as Axe of the Bloodbeast.  Any thought on switching to Str/Agi and DW'ing the weapons?  Would it matter which is in primary hand?  I tried some solo testing, but wasn't able to factor in the AGI line behind/flank attacks.  I only care about raid DPS - I rarely solo or group with this toon.</p><p>Any other weapon choices you think would be better?  This is an alt, so I wouldn't be bidding on higher end stuff, but I could probably get him Vilucidae's sword or Dirk of Negativity without bidding against mains.</p><p>Thanks</p>

Tamo
09-18-2007, 12:52 PM
<p>Even though you're an alt I would still try to go after GDoH...</p><p>Vil's sword is nice from what I understand perhaps even Oblivion's Edge or Absolution could work, but they sucked as regular DW so now they are probably only marginally better.</p>

namax
09-18-2007, 03:36 PM
<p>My mistake - I meant the Grinning Dirk......DoN you can buy, so I wouldn't have to bid at all on it.</p><p>Still the question though - two weaps and go to Agi, or one hand and stick with Wis?</p>

Hamervelder
09-18-2007, 04:19 PM
If you have any intentions of going STR/WIS, then the Dirk of Negativity is better than both VSS and Oblivion's Edge.  As I posted in another thread, I did some testing those particular weapons.  <span class="postbody">one-handed, Vilicudae's Sword of Shielding:563.85702.88818.86539.91710.12-------<i>667.12 Avg DPS</i>One-handed, Dirk of Negativity806.11830.71724.28816.17772.19-------<i>789.29 Avg DPS</i>One-handed, Oblivion's Edge599.46602.49839.46747.19625.14-------<i>682.75 Avg DPS</i></span>Thus far, the Dirk of Negativity performs better than any of the other fabled weapons I have, including the newly-acquired Serrated Sword of Retribution. 

Tamo
09-18-2007, 06:57 PM
I'd be willing to bet GDoH out performs DoN with wis spec though.

Hamervelder
09-19-2007, 12:44 AM
<cite>Tamo wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'd be willing to bet GDoH out performs DoN with wis spec though.</blockquote>I'm sure it does.  I <i>would hope</i> that it does indeed. 

DngrMou
09-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Where does DoN drop?

Debunkt
09-19-2007, 04:42 PM
<p>DoN is off the Seeing in Halls of Seeing.</p>

setesh
09-19-2007, 07:01 PM
<cite>Atelos@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm sure it does.  I <i>would hope</i> that it does indeed.  </blockquote><p>In terms of pure auto attack dps, the Dirk of Negativity is a superior weapon.</p><p>Dirk of Negativity: 23 - 130 dmg, 1.9 delay, 40.3 average base dps.Grinning Dirk of Horror: 30 - 273 dmg, 4.0 delay, 37.9 average base dps.</p><p>Thanks to Leanan's wonderful analysis of critical damage, we see that Dirk of Negativity has a ratio of 5.7 which yields approximately 77.5% more damage with 100% criticals.  The Grinning Dirk of Horror has a ratio of 9.1 which adds 87.5% damage.</p><p>Dirk of Negativity: 40.3 dps * 1.775 is 71.5 dps.Grinning Dirk of Horror: 37.9 dps * 1.875 is 71.1 dps.</p><p>So the question becomes whether or not the number of missed swings with the Dirk outweight its base dps advantage at a given rate of critical hits.  Only parsing will tell you that.</p>