So, the Tunarian Alliance is the Qeynos Scout guild, right?

[Terrak]

Why is Tunare pretty much purely a Priest deity from a gameplay mechanics perspective?  I know that it was said early on that deities wouldn't be appropriate other than for RP purposes for every class, but it seems kind of weird that Tunare, whom the Qeynos Scout guild is named after, really doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Rangers.Please consider revising her abilities (and that blasted cloak that's of no use to anyone other than priests) before Kunark launches.  Some of us really don't want to feel like we're being railroaded to worship Karana.After all, in EQ1 there were 2 Ranger deities.

[Webin]

Good luck with your request... I don't really see them revamping a deity before RoK....  actually, never.  Think of all the people who picked Tunare for her healing abilities, only to have them changed to dps abilities.I'm sure there's a very good lore reason for the choices, but I'm not enough of an expert to be definitive.

[the flu]

The Tunarian alliance is actually a guild of druids and rangers. Tunare is the goddess of nature, which is how they are tied together. It is considered the scout guild in qeynos mostly by default.

[RanmaBoyType]

<p>tunare offers a trueshot blessing, which summons 100 special arrows or throwing weapons, and adds in ranged bonus, and crit rate if i recall as well.</p><p>So that is absolutely worthless to a healer, but nice for a ranger.</p>

[Terrak]

Trueshot is ok, yes.  But that's the only thing that you get as a Ranger, really.  There's only one cloak which is rather baffling -- other deities over a choice, but offering only one cloak and that cloak being a bonus to healing?  That's rather, shall we say, focused.I wouldn't disagree that healers would rather not get caught off guard by such a change and I'm fine with healing abilities remaining there but I get the distinct feeling that they're going to set up Karana as the end-all for Rangers and those of us who want to stay competitive are going to feel like we're being railroaded into it.As far as the status of the Alliance... yeah, technically Druids are there, too, but it's considered the Scout guild inasmuch as the Temple of Life is considered the Priest guild.  I was just using it as an example to illustrate how frustrating and nonsensical it is that Tunare has so little tuning and value to Rangers and an almost complete focus on healers.

[Armawk]

<p>Surely there are only a minority of the Tunare blessings and miracles that only apply to healers? The ones that actually heal will work for anyone wont they?</p><p>In fact as a scout dpser I would think a big emergency heal would be a huge bonus in a pinch?</p>

[Rainmare]

actually, as a scout, you've already been 'railroaded'. Bristlebane has all the scout miracles/abilities/cloak.I think Karana is going to end up being a Druid oriented diety.

[Lanalia]

<p>Every good-aligned priest who wants healing miracles/blessings was railroaded into choosing Tunare.</p><p>So what's the problem with only having one <b>truly</b> viable option? Before Bristlebane, I'd guess that 90% of DPSing scouts living in Freeport/Neriak went with Rallos Zek. I know my Brigand did, along with nearly every Brigand and Assassin in the raiding alliance I'm in. Sure, other deities offer a few things that are nice for scouts, but RZ was by far the most popular.</p><p>It's sort of the same thing.</p>

[simpwrx02]

<cite>Terrak wrote:</cite><blockquote>Trueshot is ok, yes.  But that's the only thing that you get as a Ranger, really.  There's only one cloak which is rather baffling -- other deities over a choice, but offering only one cloak and that cloak being a bonus to healing?  That's rather, shall we say, focused.</blockquote>Every Diety only offers one cloak.  If you want to follow tunare, but want a differnet cloak, then do the diety of the cloak you want then switch to tunare.

[Terrak]

Untrue.  Innoruuk, at the very least, offers a couple of cloak options.As for whether it's a good thing that there's only one viable option per class...  From a RP perspective, yeah.  Tunare has always been associated with Rangers in addition to Clerics (among the Koada'dal) and Druids (among the Feir'Dal).  Why would a Ranger, a class that identifies with the forests, worship the deity with the portfolio of mischief when there's a goddess of the forest?

[Illmarr]

<cite>Terrak wrote:</cite><blockquote>Untrue.  Innoruuk, at the very least, offers a couple of cloak options.As for whether it's a good thing that there's only one viable option per class...  From a RP perspective, yeah.  Tunare has always been associated with Rangers in addition to Clerics (among the Koada'dal) and Druids (among the Feir'Dal).  Why would a Ranger, a class that identifies with the forests, worship the deity with the portfolio of mischief when there's a goddess of the forest?</blockquote><p>Well, it's all relative. What's a Halfling Cleric to do? They always worshipped Bristlebane in EQ1. Only choice. My g/f's Halfling Shaman was waiting for Bristlebane. She's SOL as far as anything that actually helps her gameplay, having to be railroaded to Tunare for any healing benefit instead of taking her racial God. </p><p>Many race/class combos can make similar stories to yours. I hope that knowledge can soothe your pain a bit, because the chanc of any change is slim and none, and slim is fading into the twilight.</p>

[Terrak]

Yeah, I'm not saying that there aren't other cases; Merely pointing this one out as one of the really blatant ones.  It's stuff like this, and your situation with Bristlebain, that just makes me wish that they'd held off on the return of the gods and done it in a way that would have been more comprehensive and logical.  Heck, they could have chosen to do it in such a way that there was an advantage to staying agnostic or waiting for the deity that you truly believe in (kind of like in EQ1 when you'd get attacked by some for believing in the wrong god or left alone for being agnostic).And, granted, there's little chance of them changing anything.  I just figure that since we're headed into an expansion maybe there's a chance that they could throw some development resources at this while they're churning out the other gods.Hey, I can dream, can't I?/sigh