Need 2 Build Suggestions please......

[DiatribeEQ]

<p>Little background:Have a 70th lvl Conjuror (multiple alts before I settled on my Zerker), so I know all about "playing with your build".  As I built my Conjuror as I leveled up, once he hit 70th, I rebuilt his AA's to be more "Group and Raid Friendly".  Right now, my Zerker is 41st lvl.  I've been plugging points into STR/DEX/STA, but looking into re-training those points.  Knowing this, I'd like to hear some opinions/advice on 2 builds:</p><p>1st build for leveling up (primarilly solo play).  Give me details as to why.</p><p>2nd build for once I'm 70th lvl and want to start grouping all the time.  Give me details as to why I want those points spent that way.</p>

[Dasturminata]

<p>I went:</p><p>AGI - 4 4 8 - 40% chance to AoE all mobs facing you, great for holding agro when the $%£& hits the fan, and Open Wounds/Destruction isn't available to cast, and gets your dps up on a multimob fight when raiding.</p><p>STA - 4 4 8 8 - 60% double attack, 8% riposte.</p><p>INT - 4 5 - not for the haste, although it's nice if I'm in a less than perfect non raiding group, but for the 25% reduction in cast timers. My acceleration strike spell is the primary spell on all my CA macros. So if it's available to me to cast it goes off without me having to look if it's up.</p><p>I tried going down the STR route on recomendation from our GL/MT but I parsed higher with this build. Leveling up this is the same build I went down with my guardian I play from time to time as guardians have appalling AoE abbility.</p><p>Dasturminator.</p><p>Oasis.</p>

[Necodem]

Agi is just useless for a zerk. Personaly I stick right now with 4/4/8 str/sta/int.

[Schmalex23]

agi line is rather sub par in comparison to anything but wisdom tree for zerkers.  With OW being on a 2.5 min cooldown that basicly means you can use it every 2-3 fights depening on how much DPS you are rolling with.  AE attack just isnt as appealing as crits(str) which affect ALL your damage vs agi which only benefits you on some encounters, only inbetween recasts of OW, and only for auto attack.  Buckler line is a must have.  It allows us to do our highest DPS and have extremely good avoidance at the same time.  As mentioned before STR line is excelent for us as well, the high crit rate makes things dead alot faster meaning we take less damage and hold better agro.  Int line is usually the third staple in people's builds.  The haste increases your DPS no matter what you are doing, unlike agi.Wisdom line isnt worth look at.  I wont even go into why its junk, and if you really want to know i have made a billion posts on it so do a search.So the standard builds are something like:448 str 4488 sta 45 int448 str 44882 sta 41 int448 str sta intI would have to warn you tho, you wont find it easy to solo as a zerker.  You are going to be LFG for anything 30+ unless you really like questing or something =P

[Dimgl]

<span style="color: #00cc99;">For solo only and leveling play I'd suggest:Low Levels7 4 8 STR + 4 8 8 8 2 STAThe boost to the STR stat will be helpful at low levels for DPS. Going full down STA, including maxing buckler reversal will give you fantastic passive performance. The final ability in STA will also help reduce your downtime.Other build4 4 8 STR + 4 4 8 8 2 STA + 4 3 INTThis is one of the two variations on what is pretty much seen as the best buckler build. You can either take the STA finale or go 4 5 INT. Personally I really like the STA finale for 2 points, so I go with it.For max end gameplay:Odds are you will be tanking group instances, and have almost no chance at raid tanking as a new fighter. So you can either go for full DPS:4 4 8 STR + 4 4 8 STA + 4 4 8 INTOr stick with "Other build" listed above. It is our best build both solo and grouped. Because Berserkers are stacked with AOE damage already AGI is worth less to us. WIS is just trash. It was almost required for tanks pre-mit changes, but now it's garbage and hasn't been touched up at all for some reason.</span>

[DiatribeEQ]

So...if I did:4, 4, 8 STR/STA/INT build <--- That'd work well for leveling to 70th (Solo)and4, 4, 8 STR, 4, 4, 8, 8, 2 STA, 4, 3 INT <--- That'd work well for well at 70th? (Grouping)How does the overall DPS for soloing stack up with the 1st build?  Will I find it acceptable/enjoyable and not really regret anything?  And how does the 2nd build stack up for the grouping/instance running (Group) do for being MT/OT ?

[Menji]

<p>Hey Skel,</p><p>Using the stamina line for buckler, are there not issues because the buckler has 1/3 of the protection compared to the tower shield? The dps is great, but I have had healers tell me to "please use tower shield", was in unrest at the time.</p><p>Now have gone all the way down STR line and down to and including parry on INT line.</p><p> P.S. I have some legendary pieces of gear and no fabled gear, is that were the difference is as far as being able to use the buckler line or not?</p>

[Schmalex23]

<cite>Menji wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey Skel,</p><p>Using the stamina line for buckler, are there not issues because the buckler has 1/3 of the protection compared to the tower shield? The dps is great, but I have had healers tell me to "please use tower shield", was in unrest at the time.</p><p>Now have gone all the way down STR line and down to and including parry on INT line.</p><p> P.S. I have some legendary pieces of gear and no fabled gear, is that were the difference is as far as being able to use the buckler line or not?</p></blockquote>Here is the difference between one of the best bucklers and one of the best towers in the game spec'd 4488 staBUCKLER<img src="http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/alex_schmalex/buckler.jpg" alt="" border="0" />TOWER<img src="http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/alex_schmalex/tower.jpg" alt="" border="0" />If the healers you have been playing with cant handle you taking 2 more hits out of 100 they have some serious issues.  Anyone who thinks the buckler line makes you take a substantial amount of damage over tower just doesnt know what they are talking about.  Not to mention that but doing more dps means something dies faster resulting in less hits, yielding less damage taken overall.  Next time someone says that to you, i sugest you tell them to shove it.  Your job is to hold agro, the healer is going to be healing ALOT more(mainly healing the DPS) if you cant do your job.  And for us to hold agro, we need DPS, we lack the taunts that guardians have.Also for the OP, i would actually reverse what you said... 448 str sta int is more for grouping and 4488 builds are more for solo.  Though both work in either situation.

[Menji]

Thanks Skel <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[LygerT]

i love it when healers tell us how to play our class, just tell them to do their job and you'll do yours.. i have met plenty of healers who couldn't heal their way out of a wet paper bag, last occasion was when i was bored i decided to go on a CoV pickup run and we had a fury, who i could swear my health regen was out healing her.... so yes, a bad healer can make you look like a fool.

[Xita]

<cite>Menji wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey Skel,</p><p>Using the stamina line for buckler, are there not issues because the buckler has 1/3 of the protection compared to the tower shield? The dps is great, but I have had healers tell me to "please use tower shield", was in unrest at the time.</p><p>Now have gone all the way down STR line and down to and including parry on INT line.</p><p> P.S. I have some legendary pieces of gear and no fabled gear, is that were the difference is as far as being able to use the buckler line or not?</p></blockquote><p>you need to get a new healer, when i'm playing a fury and zerker shows up for a PUG with a tower shield, well they normally find themselves looking for a new healer <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>on your gear, i dont have nearly the gear skel does, i use buckler line, but i did the STR STA INT build above with the 4-1 int, the full use of the sta line makes up for my gear sucking. Once i get to full fabled ill be going back to 448</p>

[Dasturminata]

<p>Ok, I respecced to:</p><p>Sta - 4 4 8 8</p><p>Str - 4 4 8 7 1</p><p>My usual job is MA on raids and pick up the mob if our MT bites the dust. So the extra hate is nice, I try to keep as close to the top of the hatelist as I can, without grabbing the mob off the MT too much. DPS seems to be pretty good so far.</p><p>Dasturminator.</p><p>Oasis.</p>

[DiatribeEQ]

Well, I tinkered around with my new build (since I only have 45 AA so far) I've built myself as close to what I could do as I could:STR: 4,4,8STA: 4,4,8INT: 4,4,5So far, the damage output seems a little lower than beforehand, but there's also the factor of waiting on my whole Buckler Reversal/Counter-attack stuff to kick in, which does help to up the dps.  But, all in all, I'm willing to keep at it, do a full build like this and then get the gear to help support it.In the Zerker tree, with my current Warrior AA build, what's recommended for finishing lvl'ing up this guy, and will there be any changes once I hit 70th I should know?  I know once I hit 70th, I'll be ditching most of the INT line to invest the rest of the way into the STA line, so what should I know now, for level'ing up and what do I need to consider once I'm 70th and will want to group all the time?

[Ni]

<cite>Dasturminata wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok, I respecced to:</p><p>Sta - 4 4 8 8</p><p>Str - 4 4 8 7 1</p><p>My usual job is MA on raids and pick up the mob if our MT bites the dust. So the extra hate is nice, I try to keep as close to the top of the hatelist as I can, without grabbing the mob off the MT too much. DPS seems to be pretty good so far.</p><p>Dasturminator.</p><p>Oasis.</p></blockquote>I have tried the final STR ability too and find it lacking. I am just not at <54% health that often or for very long. Prefer the STA final, but you can do both, too.

[Khorve]

<cite>Dasturminata wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok, I respecced to:</p><p>Sta - 4 4 8 8</p><p>Str - 4 4 8 7 1</p><p>My usual job is MA on raids and pick up the mob if our MT bites the dust. So the extra hate is nice, I try to keep as close to the top of the hatelist as I can, without grabbing the mob off the MT too much. DPS seems to be pretty good so far.</p><p>Dasturminator.</p><p>Oasis.</p></blockquote>This is the first build (besides my own) that I've seen with the STR4 ability. Is it worth it at all? I'll be speccing over to STR4/4/8 and STA 4/4/8/8/2, so I'll have 8 points left lying around. EDIT: Never mind, Skel schooled me in the arts of playing my own [I cannot control my vocabulary] class.EDIT (again): Skel, your Berserker is the mad notes.