Is it just me....

[Nitehawke1]

<p>I really like the way this game is, my hats off to you all for a great looking game.  I played EQ1 and I for one think the spin off to EQ2 is right on.  I like the history and that ties both games together.  I have been playing EQ2 for not even a month but I do have one problem with the game..... LAG.  I am not speaking of a little lag, I mean to the point my game playing is almost stopped.  To the point that I cant even hardly move my toon.  </p><p>I am not sure what you need to look at on my system but anything and everything is available to ya to help me determine is it me or what. </p><p>I can tell you this about my computer</p><p>It is a duel core 5200+ with 4 gig ram </p><p>I have a 6150 Nvidia video card</p><p>I am running windows vista home premium. </p><p>I have DSL connection</p><p>I am asking for help here, if I cant get any, I will be stopping my subscription due to the lag in the game being so unplayable for me.  I bought this computer this year just for gaming and added the ram up so that hopfully Lag would not be an issue for me. </p><p>PLZ HELP!!!!</p>

[Child]

<cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote>that answers why you have lag. since all of the updates, so much has been added that it pretty much needs a cable connection to run decently.

[Isisalthea]

I use a dsl connection and dont have much lag,and am only using 2G ram.  I don't think that is the problem.  OP, you might try posting in the tech forum, under support and also maybe petiton.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have <b>a crap</b> DSL connection</blockquote>there.. fixed. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />The other possibility though is that you have other programs running on your computer that are interfering with EQ2. Try shutting them down (on boot up) til you find the trouble maker. Otherwise, call your DSL provider and ask them about upgrading your Upload/Download rate.

[xOnaton1]

When you say lag do you mean slow communication from your computer to the server or slow frame rates? Slow or choppy frame rates are not technically "lag".The NVIDIA 6150 is an integrated motherboard graphics chip? Is that what you have? I don't think it's a video card. Can you give us more information about your system?Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLereVaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere

[Miss_Jackie]

Personally, I just upgraded from a 128 mb video card to a 512 mb card and I'm still getting a slow frame rate, even at the settings I had when I had the 128 card. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Lortet]

<cite>Xuphor@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote>that answers why you have lag. since all of the updates, so much has been added that it pretty much needs a cable connection to run decently. </blockquote>I run two PC's with EQ2 running together on high res settings on the same DSL connection without significant lag, so don't think this is the case. Qeynos harbour is occasionally choppy but at other times can be crowded and present no problems so ???

[thyriel81]

To better help you getting it solved, what you can do is:search the forums, there is somewhere a list posted with the DNS names of all the servers. What you then can do is ping them and see which ones you get the best ping times. (a good one is under 100), and also look what your current servers ping is.

[Baccalarium]

<cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LAG.  I am not speaking of a little lag, I mean to the point my game playing is almost stopped.  To the point that I cant even hardly move my toon.    </p></blockquote>"Cant hardly move my toon"   sounds much more like frame rate lag than connection lag.    Connection lag usually allows you to move your toon,  but things in the environment around you don't update quick enough and you eventually fall or get killed by something that pops into existance closer to you than it would have had the connection updated from a distance.Can't hardly move?So you always move but the display updates very slow and choppy?    frame rate set your display quality settings lower,   try full screen instead of windowed. etc.Takes serveral seconds to respond to pressing an arrow key?    Does a,s,w,d keys work better?    sometimes certain panels remap arrow keys and are slow to unmap them. 

[Tarlok]

<p>Never played eq2 on anything less than a 6500 gt but any 6000 series card will run it.  Its not prety but it will run it.  I would almost say though if your card is integrated just uptrade it to at least a 7800 gt or a lower end 8000.  Would actually lean towards the 8000 series since you are running Vista (heard dx10 is prety rockin on the games that support it).  The rest of your system specs seem up to snuff to run some nice resolutions and be playable quite smothly.</p>

[Vonotar]

<cite>Xuphor@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote>that answers why you have lag. since all of the updates, so much has been added that it pretty much needs a cable connection to run decently. </blockquote>Biggest load of baloney I have ever seen!

[Vonotar]

<cite>Baccalarium wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LAG.  I am not speaking of a little lag, I mean to the point my game playing is almost stopped.  To the point that I cant even hardly move my toon.    </p></blockquote>"Cant hardly move my toon"   sounds much more like frame rate lag than connection lag.    Connection lag usually allows you to move your toon,  but things in the environment around you don't update quick enough and you eventually fall or get killed by something that pops into existance closer to you than it would have had the connection updated from a distance.Can't hardly move?So you always move but the display updates very slow and choppy?    frame rate set your display quality settings lower,   try full screen instead of windowed. etc.Takes serveral seconds to respond to pressing an arrow key?    Does a,s,w,d keys work better?    sometimes certain panels remap arrow keys and are slow to unmap them.  </blockquote>Exactly, I actually had an issue with my connection the other week which caused massive connection lag.  I had great fun running around Steamfont without any mobs, nodes etc.  It was like playing in a 'sandbox' explore only mode.

[LaurnaRose Fauldorn]

<p>If someone could tell me where to find text file for custom settings, Id be more than happy to post what I have my game options set to.  </p><p>I run on a AMD Anthalon 6400+ w/1.8ghz processor, 1g ram, XP, PNY NVidia 6600 w/256 ram.  Its not the best machine in the world, but I can run on balanced and higher with tweaking with little to no lag at all in all areas other than Kelethin and Neriak.  I would be more than happy to post my "quality" setting and my "performance" setting for the OP if someone would tell me how to do it.</p>

[Drakkaro]

I play on dialup just fine, so the DSL thing is not it.  The only thing I can't do is Raid.  I solo and do groups without any issues at all.  The OP's problem is something else.  I'm leaning towards his video settings, or other programs running in the background.

[LordPazuzu]

<p>These three are your problem:</p><p><i>I have a 6150 Nvidia video card- </i><span style="color: #ff0000;">Outdated</span></p><p><i>I am running windows vista home premium. -</i><span style="color: #ff3300;">Crap OS</span></p><p><i>I have DSL connection-</i> <span style="color: #ff0000;">Unreliable Connection</span></p>

[thyriel81]

the video card shoudlnt be of any problem, it wont go with nice settings but it will go with nice 30+fps on low settings. I first played EQ2 with a MX440 card and it went well with lowest settings.But strange i oversaw that you are running Vista on that machine. That is for sure a huge problem. Vista is a great OS, but it changes many ways things are adressed between hardware pieces especially everythings that touches the RAM.This leads to 2 situations, on old machines (singlecore and lesser then 2gig RAM) it will slow done things drastically. This becomes more and more over time as the Memory AI included in Vista will begin loading things into RAM you often need. Also there are a lot of things running that improve perfomance over time, but this really only works on multicore systems as it needs a lot of CPU time to do these things.So basically if you happen to have a dualcore system with 2 or 4gig RAM you will end up with a small lesser perfomance after setting up the system, which will increase over time. (I tested this a while and i had 5-7% lesser speed in Vista then i had in XP), now after 2 months the AI System could work to improve the speed i ended up being on the same speed as XP, but with almost half the loading time of things.So for your computer, this will be even more dramatically decreasing perfomance the longer the system will run.

[zaneluke]

<cite>Xuphor@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote>that answers why you have lag. since all of the updates, so much has been added that it pretty much needs a cable connection to run decently. </blockquote>The is the dumbest post I have ever read since launch. I would look into your connection speed. You honestly could have something wrong with our line. do a speed test. You video card. eh.  I would look into getting a pci express. You could also get rid of vista and just go down to xp. But honestly with 4 gigs ram you should be fine.

[Finora]

<cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I can tell you this about my computer</p><p>It is a duel core 5200+ with 4 gig ram </p><p>I have a 6150 Nvidia video card</p><p>I am running windows vista home premium. </p><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote><p>Hum, I'm no computer techy type, but here's what I can tell you.</p><p>Your computer is far newer than mine (mine's 3ish years old now), and double the ram I have. I also have a 6 series card but I think mine's a bit better than yours.</p><p>I can run it on slightly tweaked extreme quality, with little to no choppiness save in QH, a couple zones in FP and dockside markets in Neriak. With a recent driver update, even that is minimal.</p><p>If your drivers are up to date, you aren't running any programs in the background and you can't run at LEAST on balanced, then I suggest hopping over to the Tech forums here and giving them the info about your system and your issue. Perhaps they can help you out.</p>

[Magic]

<p>It sounds like a frame rate issue and NOT an Internet connection issue.  Try this and see what happens: turn your performance setting down to extreme performance.  Go back to those troublesome areas and see how it affects the frame rate.  If your frame rate is smooth then you had your graphic settings too high.  If it made no difference then you should go into the video setting in the game and turn down more and more graphic settings until your frame rate gets smooth.  Then learn to tolerate your new settings until you get an upgraded system.</p><p>Just so you know, I'm running a pair of GeForce 7600GT's in SLI and I get smooth frame rates in ultra extreme quality mode.  I said ultra extreme because I went in and set all graphic settings to maximum.  The extreme quality setting does NOT put everything up to maximum.  I get frame rate stutter when there are many players or mobs in my view.  If I turn to face a wall or the floor,  my frame rate goes back to maximum.  So it has to do with the number of polygons your video card must process.  The flora, shadows, and water effects alone makes this ultra extreme setting worth the stutter to me.  You should see how beautiful this game is with everything turned to max.</p>

[Fatkiddown]

<cite>Xuphor@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote>that answers why you have lag. since all of the updates, so much has been added that it pretty much needs a cable connection to run decently. </blockquote>You don't know [Removed for Content] you are talking about, 6mbps dsl vs 6mbps cable or whatever the speed DSL or cable works fine nothing wrong with DSL

[Fatkiddown]

<cite>Miss_Jackie wrote:</cite><blockquote>Personally, I just upgraded from a 128 mb video card to a 512 mb card and I'm still getting a slow frame rate, even at the settings I had when I had the 128 card. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote><div>There are some 128mb video cards that kick some 512MB cards butts, just because it has more memory doesn't make it faster.   If you got like a Geforce 7300 or an ATI HD2400 or 2600 then it will not run eq2 that great unless you have your graphics turned down a bit.   Also if your pc is like most people's pc you probably have AIM, kodak photo software, hp printer software, symantec antivirus, symantec software firewall all running in the background.    Close all that junk down before you play games and uninstall symantec or mcafee and install avast or AVG free antivirus and it won't take up nearly as much of your memory.</div>

[mellowknees72]

<cite>Xuphor@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote><b>that answers why you have lag. since all of the updates, so much has been added that it pretty much needs a cable connection to run decently.</b> </blockquote><p>Not necessarily - I play over a crappy satellite connection (it's all we've got since we live 55 miles into the middle of nowhere) and although I get some lag, it certainly doesn't make the game unplayable.  DSL would likely be a much better and more stable connection than my satellite nonsense...</p><p>Have you tried futzing with the performance settings in Options?  I would try turning it down to the lowest setting first and see if that makes a difference...then you can move up from there and see what works.</p>

[Fatkiddown]

<cite>LordPazuzu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>These three are your problem:</p><p><i>I have a 6150 Nvidia video card- </i><span style="color: #ff0000;">Outdated</span></p><p><i>I am running windows vista home premium. -</i><span style="color: #ff3300;">Crap OS</span></p><p><i>I have DSL connection-</i> <span style="color: #ff0000;">Unreliable Connection</span></p></blockquote>Video is the slowest of the slow for the 6000 series,  this is probably 99% of your problem.   Buy a $150 ATI X1950 Pro if you are on a budget otherwise get an 8800 GTS 320MB or 640MB version if you got the money.<div></div><div>The OS is ok although I would rather run XP unless I had 4gb of ram.</div><div></div><div>DSL is NOT unreliable typically, now the people that are saying it is have probably had a bad experience with it in THEIR AREA, do not listen to them.   In my area the cable would drop out every night at midnight, since I got DSL I have had no problems period.   So dsl vs cable is just situational get one and if it sucks go to the other.</div>

[GooglySweat]

DSL is much more reliable than Cable from past experiences and friend experiences. Cable is different according to how many people are in your area using it and DSL is a DEDICATED line. It's all based on what service you have but generally DSL seems to be more stable.  That isn't even the situation here though. It's the integrated card. That's what will run the game poorly.

[Norrsken]

<cite>GooglySweater wrote:</cite><blockquote>DSL is much more reliable than Cable from past experiences and friend experiences. Cable is different according to how many people are in your area using it and DSL is a DEDICATED line. It's all based on what service you have but generally DSL seems to be more stable.  That isn't even the situation here though. It's the integrated card. That's what will run the game poorly. </blockquote>Actually, no connections are designed to have 100% capacity for 100% of the users, so if enough people try to max their connections, the lowre the speed will be. Its all up to the ISP to guess at what point they reach a costeffective service, meaning that the cap of the available speed wont be hit. Perhaps cable suppliers are notoriously bad at that. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[UlteriorModem]

<cite>Fatkiddown wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Xuphor@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nitehawke1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have DSL connection</p></blockquote>that answers why you have lag. since all of the updates, so much has been added that it pretty much needs a cable connection to run decently. </blockquote>You don't know [Removed for Content] you are talking about, 6mbps dsl vs 6mbps cable or whatever the speed DSL or cable works fine nothing wrong with DSL</blockquote><p>Regardles off what youve been told there is no way DSL can match the bandwidth of cable.</p><p>DSL is heavily 'geographically' influenced. The further you are from the central switcher/router the worse the performance.</p><p> That being said you should still be able to get acceptable performance from DSL.</p><p>Also to the original poster it might be a matter of the copper (wiring) in your own home. You may want to have a techie come out and see what kind of signal amplitute you have.</p><p>Another thing to look into is your fixed disk (hard drive) if its old, fragmented, and slow it can really impact your performance.</p><p>Lastley check into background tasks, firewalls, and antivirus software and see if there not bottlenecking you somehow.</p>