bugged armor appearances: blackened iron chain, feysteel vanguard

[Vatec]

The Blackened Iron Reverent set seems to have gone in as planned.  Unfortunately, the Blackened Iron Chainmail set has problems.  The coif, boots, and mantle match the new Reverent look, but the coat and leggings still have the old look.Sorry to be the bearer of bad news :^PEDIT:  Slight correction.  This only applies to the Forged items, not to Pristine ones.  I'm guessing this is because the non-Pristine items are all going away, so they didn't get updated?  In any case, the Pristine stuff has the new look, which is great!

[Domino]

Hm, that's odd!  Please submit an in-game /bug listing the items you've noticed don't match, and we'll check it out!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Vatec]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hm, that's odd!  Please submit an in-game /bug listing the items you've noticed don't match, and we'll check it out!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote>There's also a thread in the Look and Feel forum regarding non-matching pieces of Feysteel.  I'll run out on a limb (and jump up and down) and say it's probably related.I'll go /bug it in-game.  That way it'll get added to the queue all nice and official-like.  Believe me, I know how much corporations like having things submitted through "proper channels" ;^)

[Domino]

<cite>Vatec wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>I'll go /bug it in-game.  That way it'll get added to the queue all nice and official-like.  Believe me, I know how much corporations like having things submitted through "proper channels" ;^)</blockquote>Thanks!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />It's not so much the "proper channels" I care about, but if it goes into a /bug, then QA takes a look at it, confirms the problem, and sticks it in my bug queue with all the details I need (like exact list of items).  If someone just tells me "hey, some of the feysteel is bugged" then I have to open every piece of feysteel, check all the appearances myself, track down what's right and what's wrong, and THEN fix it ... the difference between 20-30 minutes out of my day and 2-3 hours out of my day!  And since I'm supposed to be making armorer recipes today, I'm sure the armorers would prefer it if it goes into the bug queue.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Besides which, we have a super QA team who are experts at this kind of thing ... I'll likely get distracted by something halfway through and miss a piece, or someth... ooh look, shiny!/wanders off

[Vatec]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vatec wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>I'll go /bug it in-game.  That way it'll get added to the queue all nice and official-like.  Believe me, I know how much corporations like having things submitted through "proper channels" ;^)</blockquote>Thanks!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />It's not so much the "proper channels" I care about, but if it goes into a /bug, then QA takes a look at it, confirms the problem, and sticks it in my bug queue with all the details I need (like exact list of items).  If someone just tells me "hey, some of the feysteel is bugged" then I have to open every piece of feysteel, check all the appearances myself, track down what's right and what's wrong, and THEN fix it ... the difference between 20-30 minutes out of my day and 2-3 hours out of my day!  And since I'm supposed to be making armorer recipes today, I'm sure the armorers would prefer it if it goes into the bug queue.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />  Besides which, we have a super QA team who are experts at this kind of thing ... I'll likely get distracted by something halfway through and miss a piece, or someth... ooh look, shiny!/wanders off</blockquote>Never said corporations had bad reasons for requiring use of "proper channels" ;^)I'm a big fan of letting the experts work out the details myself.Hope it doesn't end up being a huge project to fix, especially since the non-pristines will be going away soon anyway....Oh, and thanks for reading (and responding) here.  It =really= makes a difference to many players.

[Eriol]

On the Feysteel issue from the other thread, I wonder if it has to do with the fact that it was imbued?  (other thread's locked, or I would have responded there)

[Eueadan]

<cite>Eriol wrote:</cite><blockquote>On the Feysteel issue from the other thread, I wonder if it has to do with the fact that it was imbued?  (other thread's locked, or I would have responded there)</blockquote>I thought the same thing...maybe the changed the main recipes but forgot some of the imbued ones...

[Powers]

<cite>Eriol wrote:</cite><blockquote>On the Feysteel issue from the other thread, I wonder if it has to do with the fact that it was imbued?  (other thread's locked, or I would have responded there)</blockquote>Not locked for me, assuming you mean my thread.  =)Yeah I got in game to take some screenies and noticed that the Pristine Forged Feysteel Greaves look different than my Pristine Imbued Feysteel Greaves.  No non-imbued chest pieces on the broker to look at, unfortunately.However, even the Pristine Forged Feysteel Greaves don't match the feysteel look of the other items -- they're just different than my imbued.It's an open question for Domino whether the Imbued armor is supposed to look like the non-imbued or not; I personally think it should, just for armor-matching reasons, but who knows what she had in mind.Speaking of whom, I started my thread so that I could get some feedback on whether this was intentional or not, not as a way to circumvent the normal bug-processing.  =)  Submit a /bug and it goes off to QA and we never get a response on it (not that that's unexpected), but posting it on the forums we actually have a chance of knowing if something was intended or not.  =)Here is a screenshot to illustrate:<img src="http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/6598/feysteel1km4.png" alt="" border="0" />This is a Pristine Imbued Feysteel Cuirass, Pristine Imbued Feysteel Greaves, and Pristine Forged Feysteel Sabatons.  The sabatons appear to be from the Pristine Forged Feysteel <b>Plate </b>set from the eq2-Traders preview, and the two Imbued pieces don't look like any of the Feysteel armors.I also noticed something weird with Feyiron:<img src="http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7370/feyiron1qx2.png" alt="" border="0" />The shoulders and gauntlets are both Pristine Forged Feyiron.  The shoulders look correct, but the gauntlets do NOT.Powers  &8^]

[Guy De Alsace]

<p>Dressed my Paladin in Feysteel Vanguard from the dressing room:</p><p><img src="http://gr3yh4wk.50megs.com/images/EQ2/feysteel.jpg" alt="" width="397" height="742" border="0" /></p><p>Clearly there's some issues here!</p>

[Troubor]

<p><img src="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/Arvig/Bothai-Feysteel.gif" border="0" alt="" width="720" height="541" /></p><p>Looks like people beat me to it, and I'll post a /bug report also real quick, but I have similar issues.  My Ratonga in mostly full feysteel.  (The boots are looted, not part of the set, please ignore them).</p><p>For what it's worth the chest and leggings are imbued.</p><p>As an aside, he has a full set of ebon vanguard waiting for him when he hits 42nd level, it looks fine via the dressing room.</p><p>Oh, addendum to this:  As promised, submitted a /bug report.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </p>

[Domino]

<cite>Vatec wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Blackened Iron Reverent set seems to have gone in as planned.  Unfortunately, the Blackened Iron Chainmail set has problems.  The coif, boots, and mantle match the new Reverent look, but the coat and leggings still have the old look.Sorry to be the bearer of bad news :^PEDIT:  Slight correction.  This only applies to the Forged items, not to Pristine ones.  I'm guessing this is because the non-Pristine items are all going away, so they didn't get updated?  In any case, the Pristine stuff has the new look, which is great!</blockquote>OK, just to let you know, the following appearances have been fixed and should match the non-imbued appearance after the next hotfix (probably just after this weekend, but that's decided by people other than me!)pristine imbued feysteel vanguard cuirasspristine imbued feysteel vanguard greavesAlso, the blackened iron appearances look OK to me.  It's correct that non-pristine appearances did not change, so non-pristine versions of anything will retail their old appearance.  Since they're going to be removed anyway, I decided not to update them as it was fairly time-intensive to do that many.So, if anybody is aware of any other appearance issues besides the pristine imbued feysteel vanguard chest and legs please post the exact name of the piece and /bug it.  (Feyiron gauntlets actually look as intended btw.)  Thanks for the reports!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />

[CyriexVTZ]

More bad news I'm afraid!Pristine Forged Vanguard Ebon Spaulders have a nice new pure black color on the 'chain' portion that appears to be under the rest of the 'plate' armorUnfortunately this new design has not been applied to the rest of the suit, includingPristine Imbued Vanguard Ebon GreavesPristine Forged Vanguard Ebon GauntletsThese two pieces are still using the rather light grey colour for the chain portion of the armor, as they did in LU37 - and this stands out rather nastily with the nice darker armsPlease fix!

[Armawk]

<p>And whats going to happen to people currently wearing non-pristine versions of the gear thats being 'removed'?</p><p>wake up one day with no pants? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Wilin]

<cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And whats going to happen to people currently wearing non-pristine versions of the gear thats being 'removed'?</p><p>wake up one day with no pants? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>Nope, you'll wake up one morning and realize that you haven't changed your pants in a month and it's time to toss the old ones and get some new ones. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Troubor]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vatec wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Blackened Iron Reverent set seems to have gone in as planned.  Unfortunately, the Blackened Iron Chainmail set has problems.  The coif, boots, and mantle match the new Reverent look, but the coat and leggings still have the old look.Sorry to be the bearer of bad news :^PEDIT:  Slight correction.  This only applies to the Forged items, not to Pristine ones.  I'm guessing this is because the non-Pristine items are all going away, so they didn't get updated?  In any case, the Pristine stuff has the new look, which is great!</blockquote>OK, just to let you know, the following appearances have been fixed and should match the non-imbued appearance after the next hotfix (probably before this weekend, but that's decided by people other than me!)pristine imbued feysteel vanguard cuirasspristine imbued feysteel vanguard greavesAlso, the blackened iron appearances look OK to me.  It's correct that non-pristine appearances did not change, so non-pristine versions of anything will retail their old appearance.  Since they're going to be removed anyway, I decided not to update them as it was fairly time-intensive to do that many.So, if anybody is aware of any other appearance issues besides the pristine imbued feysteel vanguard chest and legs please post the exact name of the piece and /bug it.  (Feyiron gauntlets actually look as intended btw.)  Thanks for the reports!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Great!  Will have to see if they hotfix Friday morning or this weekend.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  As an aside, if chest & leggings end up as shiny as the rest of the set, I'm thinking it might make nice "fluff" armor for my 70th paladin.  He has most of his fabled EoF set, but since our raid group doesn't do EH a lot, doesn't have his leggings.  The feysteel legs, if they become shiny vanguard, might be a pretty close match.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>One question, does forged already have they shiny look?  If so, I may make a set of forged to wear on his legs as fluff/appearance armor.</p>

[Domino]

<cite>Cyriex@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>More bad news I'm afraid!Pristine Forged Vanguard Ebon Spaulders have a nice new pure black color on the 'chain' portion that appears to be under the rest of the 'plate' armorUnfortunately this new design has not been applied to the rest of the suit, includingPristine Imbued Vanguard Ebon GreavesPristine Forged Vanguard Ebon GauntletsThese two pieces are still using the rather light grey colour for the chain portion of the armor, as they did in LU37 - and this stands out rather nastily with the nice darker armsPlease fix!</blockquote>Confused...Here is me in Ebon vanguard ... I am not seeing any issues with shading?  Yes, the underlying chain parts are darker than the metal plate bits, but that's just the look of the armor.   The plate bits all look the same tint to me - which is the item you think is wrong?<img src="http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4324/ebonsetla7.jpg" alt="" border="0" />And to answer Shaun, nobody will be waking up without pants (well, unless they indulge a bit too heavily in the Brell's Brew and go home with an ogre, and that's their own problem).  Old equipment will remain the same, it just won't be possible to make new stuff any more.  (Which also  means if you were really violently attached to the old look of any of the crafted armor, you can just get a crude set to put on your appearance tab.)

[CyriexVTZ]

Hi Domino!Pre  LU38, the underlying chain parts on all the pieces were a light-ish grey color - lighter than the plate that sits on top of themAs your screenshot perfectly shows, the Spaulders have been changes to now have a nice, lovely, rich dark black on the underlying chain, which is much darker than the plate that sits on top of the chain.However, your screenshot also shows (and it shows up more on a larger race, like a dark elf, particularly when riding on a mount) that the underlying chain on the Greaves, and the chain that shows through the gloves, do not share the new black look that the arms have been given... they're still light greyAnd I think that looks ikky! I think the underlying chain parts of the suit should all match each other..and I'd like all the chain on the suit to be the dark black style that's appeared on the arms with this LU!

[Domino]

<img src="http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4286/ebon2vv0.jpg" alt="" border="0" />   ??

[CyriexVTZ]

Well that works too.... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />All I was asking for though was to have the black underlay thats on the arms also being on the chain underlay that is on gloves and leggings..

[mlr701]

I'm having an appearance issue with  the bronze vanguard greaves.  The pants are missing that big triangle-shaped thingy in the front and back.   I did open a bug report for this already, but thought I'd mention it.I used the dressing room and noticed that all of the crafted greaves had the same problem, while the dropped ones looked ok on me.Very odd.....

[CyriexVTZ]

Here's a picture to hopefully explain<img src="http://www.tharndorim.com/eqimages/domino.jpg" border="0" alt="" />1 - New Black Chain Underlay colour, used only on the Spaulders, added in the latest live update2 - Old Grey Chain underlay colour. This was previously used on the Spaulders, but was replaced with colour '1' with the patch. It is still used on Greaves and Gloves in highlighted areas and other areas not visible in the screenshot. This light grey chain underlay is particularly visible on the leggings when running and mounted on a horse.3 - Dark Grey Ebon Plate colourI think the areas that are color 3 are fine as is (and it wont match with my lovely Great Helm of the Savage if you change it!)I think the areas that are currently colour '2' in game should be changed to match the colour '1' used on the arms.Hope this helps..

[Spyrit]

<p>Maybe it was just a serious lack of sleep but I have been saving a set of Umbrae Chain from DFC for these appearance slots. I equiped it last night  but now it has lost all of it's shine. Looks to me like a similar issue to the imbue stuff.</p><p>Anyone else have a set that they can try to see if it just my sleep deprivation. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> I will try to drag out some old screenies to do a before and after.</p>

[Armawk]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>And to answer Shaun, nobody will be waking up without pants (well, unless they indulge a bit too heavily in the Brell's Brew and go home with an ogre, and that's their own problem).  Old equipment will remain the same, it just won't be possible to make new stuff any more.  (Which also  means if you were really violently attached to the old look of any of the crafted armor, you can just get a crude set to put on your appearance tab.)</blockquote>Ah thats sort of what I thought.. though a  bit confusing for anyone who is wearing a mixes pristine/non pristine set who will end up not wearing a set at all..

[BarrowBott]

I would like to add that in the Bronze Vanguard set, all pristines, the pants don't match the rest of the outfit.  The update make the bronze vanguard armor look, well, bronze, but the pants are still grey metal.

[Webin]

Not to hijack the thread... but is that a giant wooden spoon on your back Domino?

[Domino]

<cite>BarrowBottum wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would like to add that in the Bronze Vanguard set, all pristines, the pants don't match the rest of the outfit.  The update make the bronze vanguard armor look, well, bronze, but the pants are still grey metal.</blockquote>This is what I see, which is the look as intended (the base chain is still greyish, yes, but the metal plates are all bronze):<img src="http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3811/bronzeej5.jpg" alt="" border="0" />If that's what you see too, then working as intended<tm>!And the spoon is an item called Yallessul's Sampling Spoon, it's a level 37 mage/fighter/priest 2h weapon.  I think it may come from Deathfist Citadel, but I just summon it on my local test server because it's fun.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[BarrowBott]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>BarrowBottum wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would like to add that in the Bronze Vanguard set, all pristines, the pants don't match the rest of the outfit.  The update make the bronze vanguard armor look, well, bronze, but the pants are still grey metal.</blockquote>This is what I see, which is the look as intended (the base chain is still greyish, yes, but the metal plates are all bronze):<img src="http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3811/bronzeej5.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="229" height="462" />If that's what you see too, then working as intended<tm>!And the spoon is an item called Yallessul's Sampling Spoon, it's a level 37 mage/fighter/priest 2h weapon.  I think it may come from Deathfist Citadel, but I just summon it on my local test server because it's fun.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Ah-ha!... OK, it must be the lower graphical settings that I am running on, because I couldn't tell that it was chain... It just looked a bit off. </p><p>/Sigh.  Looks like I'm going to have to convince the wife to let me buy a new machine.</p>

[quasigenx]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><img src="http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3811/bronzeej5.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></blockquote>This might be working as designed, but IMO those shoulders don't match the set. The shoulders from the Cleric AQ set should be used instead; they have the bronze plate look with silver chain underneath.

[Jida]

From <a href="http://www.eq2llinks.com/item.php?id=-1845955260" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">my website.</a>. the weapon is also a a Spoon that drops in Cazel's Mesa in the treasure chest of Cazel the Mad.aITEM -1845955260 1469497419:a Spoon/a

[Calthine]

<cite>Jida wrote:</cite><blockquote>From <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2llinks.com/item.php?id=-1845955260" target="_blank">my website.</a>. the weapon is also a a Spoon that drops in Cazel's Mesa in the treasure chest of Cazel the Mad.aITEM -1845955260 1469497419:a Spoon/a</blockquote>I was just gonna post that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=15631" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Spoon</a><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=16904" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">A Small Spoon</a>

[Domino]

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jida wrote:</cite>I was just gonna post that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=15631" target="_blank">A Spoon</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=16904" target="_blank">A Small Spoon</a></blockquote>A small spoon is a tiny one-hand teaspoon though, and it appears to be no-zone.  A spoon has the same appearance as in the screenshot though, but unfortunately it's no trade (and requires 56 adventure level).  Looks like that might be a good graphic for some crafting quest reward some time in the future, however!  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Nuhus]

I think it's the sppon that drops from Cazel in Cazel's Mesa. If it's the big one your talking about. Cracked me up when I saw it.

[BigChiefJJ]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jida wrote:</cite>I was just gonna post that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=15631" target="_blank">A Spoon</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=16904" target="_blank">A Small Spoon</a></blockquote>A small spoon is a tiny one-hand teaspoon though, and it appears to be no-zone.  A spoon has the same appearance as in the screenshot though, but unfortunately it's no trade (and requires 56 adventure level).  Looks like that might be a good graphic for some crafting quest reward some time in the future, however!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>And a Spatula too!  I want to dual weld a spoon and spatula!!!!!!</p>

[Calthine]

A Fork!  It's have to be Main Hand piercing.  It could proc seasonings.

[Rijacki]

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>A Fork!  It's have to be Main Hand piercing.  It could proc seasonings.</blockquote>no no no I want a Spork!!!<a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8ace/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8ace/</a>*impish grin*

[Calthine]

<cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>A Fork!  It's have to be Main Hand piercing.  It could proc seasonings.</blockquote>no no no I want a Spork!!!<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8ace/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8ace/</a>*impish grin*</blockquote>But then they'd have to introduce cafeteria food and Mystery Meat!

[Zard]

<p>You can also get <b>Yallessul's Sampling Spoon</b> from the Named Alchemist (/Coercer) in DFC which is wieldable at level 37. </p>

[mlr701]

I want to protest the new look of the bronze vanguard greaves.  They look horrible, and I don't see why the look changed from the normal greaves to this awful chain-underwear thing.  It's tacky and it clashes.  If i wanted my toon to wear legplates, I would have bought legplates, not greaves.My toon is a crafter, and I didn't plan to ever change his armor.  Not looking forward to looking at something this ugly and nasty for the next 50 or so levels.

[Seidhkona]

<cite>Troubor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><img src="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/Arvig/Bothai-Feysteel.gif" border="0" alt="" width="720" height="541" /></p><p>Looks like people beat me to it, and I'll post a /bug report also real quick, but I have similar issues.  My Ratonga in mostly full feysteel.  (The boots are looted, not part of the set, please ignore them).</p><p>For what it's worth the chest and leggings are imbued.</p><p>As an aside, he has a full set of ebon vanguard waiting for him when he hits 42nd level, it looks fine via the dressing room.</p><p>Oh, addendum to this:  As promised, submitted a /bug report.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" />  </p></blockquote>I think I see what this is. I was shopping the broker today for mine, and pieces crafted before the LU have the grey appearance, stuff newly crafted is shiny silver with gold trim. YAY, beautiful paladin "knight in shining armor" appearance! Here's mine, I made the chest today and it is NOT imbued.<img src="http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/souls/Sigrdrifa_shiny_02.jpg" alt="" border="0" />

[Domino]

<cite>mlr701 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want to protest the new look of the bronze vanguard greaves.  They look horrible, and I don't see why the look changed from the normal greaves to this awful chain-underwear thing.  It's tacky and it clashes.  If i wanted my toon to wear legplates, I would have bought legplates, not greaves.My toon is a crafter, and I didn't plan to ever change his armor.  Not looking forward to looking at something this ugly and nasty for the next 50 or so levels.</blockquote>Hey, guess what?  We have this GREAT new feature with GU38 called an "appearance tab" ... so don't live with it if you don't like it!  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />And as stated already, the non-pristine versions didn't change appearances, so if you really liked the old look of the bronze, simply make yourself some crude stuff for the appearance tab.  There's nothing being taken away from you, and a whole ton more options being added.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Calthine]

<cite>Seidhkona wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><img src="http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/souls/Sigrdrifa_shiny_02.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></blockquote>Just...  WOW

[Finora]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jida wrote:</cite>I was just gonna post that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=15631" target="_blank">A Spoon</a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=16904" target="_blank">A Small Spoon</a></blockquote>A small spoon is a tiny one-hand teaspoon though, and it appears to be no-zone.  A spoon has the same appearance as in the screenshot though, but unfortunately it's no trade (and requires 56 adventure level).  Looks like that might be a good graphic for some crafting quest reward some time in the future, however!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Oh yes, I have the "A Spoon" from Cazel =). We in the guild were all aching for one of those, but we let our old EQ1 enchanters get first crack at them <G>. I have one now and equip it 9 times of 10 whenever I go to craft anything with my provisioner.  I love that thing.</p><p>I'd certainly do a quest for a nice normal sized spoon =), maybe a nice little pot for my off hand.</p>

[Lortet]

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>A Fork!  It's have to be Main Hand piercing.  It could proc seasonings.</blockquote>no no no I want a Spork!!!<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8ace/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8ace/</a>*impish grin*</blockquote>But then they'd have to introduce cafeteria food and Mystery Meat!</blockquote>Then there are these - all the rage back in the 70's at my parent's dinner parties lol <a href="http://www.aussiethings.biz/splayd.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.aussiethings.biz/splayd.html</a>