View Full Version : SK and healer?
Omegaphobia
09-11-2007, 04:12 PM
<p>Hey guys i looked a few pages back and only saw the sk and bard duo thread, so i thought i would ask in a new thread.</p><p>Heres your chance to convince me <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> what evil class should i duo with my gf's SK?</p><p>Im thinking the higher lvl we are the better a healer would look, especially since im sure we will be challenging alot of stuff two people shouldnt be able to do.</p><p>I dont want to play a druid, but im open to Inquisitor or Defiler healer wise(which of the two is the better dps since ill probably have to help out in that department at times?). Would two SKs make a good team? </p><p>If we relaxed the rules a bit and i made a pally would that be a good duo? What has better dps, pally, inquisitor, or defiler?</p><p>Thanks in advance for any tips!,</p>
Stuge
09-11-2007, 04:55 PM
<span style="font-family: courier new,courier;">Inquisitor. An SK + Inq duo can be absolutely amazing and nail some tough targets.</span>
Omegaphobia
09-11-2007, 05:18 PM
<p>What kind of dps can i expect from an Inquisitor and what type of heals do they specialize at. (im a newb i know, ive only played a guardian and ranger).</p><p>Also i hear pally dps is pretty lame, how bad is it and can pally heals (along with sk lifetaps) keep the two of us alive? sk/pally would be very interesting from a RP perspective (yes i know they shouldnt get along from an rp perspective hehe).</p>
khufure
09-11-2007, 06:27 PM
Inquisitor is good. Illusionist or Brigand is more interesting. Don't discount dirge, although dirge is more boring.
Dead Knight
09-11-2007, 06:33 PM
Defiler, Fury or Inquis for Healers. Troub or Illu if you want to roll with something else.
Omegaphobia
09-11-2007, 06:40 PM
If i go Troub or Illusionist, we would need a 3rd party to heal at later levels wont we?
Antryg Mistrose
09-11-2007, 11:25 PM
What is this fetish for troubadors over dirges? Dual boxing I currently play SK/Dirge which isn't as good as SK/Illus, but is superior in every respect to SK/TroubWhether you need a priest depends what you are fighting. Normally Illusionist with stun/stifle/daze/root/mezz can if played well prevent you needing a priest at all. As long as the mobs aren't immune to those effects and you are patient with the hardest mobs ie Mezz the mobs to regain health (which is hard to impossible dual boxed with SK's having pretty much every spell as a DoT but a 2nd real player could do it).Having a priest would be easier. - you can always invite others to join your duo when needed, as you have the 2 essential classes. Of priests - Fury would be my pick - SK friendly buffs, decent damage for a priest, fun class to play.
xandez
09-12-2007, 03:51 AM
it depends if your gonna try to tackle some "challenging" encounters or not... if so, pick a healer class, if not, pick some support/DPS class...btw, SK/druid duos are quite awesome too... atleast melee warden/SK rocks, who needs to cast healing spells anyway? proc heals FTW! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />++Xan
Dead Knight
09-12-2007, 03:57 AM
<cite>Antryg Mistrose wrote:</cite><blockquote>What is this fetish for troubadors over dirges? Dual boxing I currently play SK/Dirge which isn't as good as SK/Illus, but is superior in every respect to SK/TroubWhether you need a priest depends what you are fighting. Normally Illusionist with stun/stifle/daze/root/mezz can if played well prevent you needing a priest at all. As long as the mobs aren't immune to those effects and you are patient with the hardest mobs ie Mezz the mobs to regain health (which is hard to impossible dual boxed with SK's having pretty much every spell as a DoT but a 2nd real player could do it).Having a priest would be easier. - you can always invite others to join your duo when needed, as you have the 2 essential classes. Of priests - Fury would be my pick - SK friendly buffs, decent damage for a priest, fun class to play.</blockquote>Go on a raid with a Dirge in group. Then do the same zone with a Troub and compare your parses. We are casters, Troubs are our bards.
Ysandre
09-12-2007, 07:17 AM
I duo with an Inquisitor and its just insane what we can do.We are about to hit 62 and have managed to do most of the group stuff by ourselves (just a level or two higher than a full group).She's a battle cleric so the dps is pretty good and the slight drop in healing skill is more than made up by my SK's own healing which I have pushed up as best I can through AA's.Its been a fun combo so far.
Spangles
09-12-2007, 08:06 AM
<cite>xandez wrote:</cite><blockquote>it depends if your gonna try to tackle some "challenging" encounters or not... if so, pick a healer class, if not, pick some support/DPS class...btw, SK/druid duos are quite awesome too... atleast melee warden/SK rocks, who needs to cast healing spells anyway? proc heals FTW! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />++Xan</blockquote><p>I have duo'd quite a bit with my GF. She has a 70 Warden and we work very well together. She also recently betrayed her 70 Templar to Inquis, and once she gets the hang of it and sorts out how she wants to spec the AAs we will be testing out that combo too.</p><p>With my defiler I found that duoing with a SK was a dream too - arguably the best hear class with buffs and debuffs that match must be considered. I know defilers have [Removed for Content] poor DPS, but what they lack in damage output they more than make up for by debuffing the mob to make it an easier kill for the SK DPS.</p>
CHIMPNOODLE.
09-12-2007, 01:22 PM
I prefer the Inquis as a partner with my SK. Just plain solid all round. Maybe not so coincidental, I prefer an SK tank when I'm on my Inquis as well hehe.
MaCloud1032
09-12-2007, 04:30 PM
<p>As for healing i like a diefiler they we stack well with debuffs. Our life taps regen there wards. Means we are free to cast as its not realy waisted.</p><p>As for other classes Necros stack well with us. People say Illusionest stack well with us.(dotn know all i do is kill them on pvp easy marks) Furys also stack well as they buff our main stats.</p><p>As far as bards man troubys will give ya a ... Everyone ofa troubs staks with us and how we are built. THey can buff attack speed, a spell proc when we cast, in crease casting range, increas str/agi, presision of the mistro, mana song, and more.</p><p>Dirge is nice for Raid MT they buff str/sta, s/c/p, melee proc, + to parry, stoneskin, mana song, +dps, cocoffiny of blads(melee proc buff)</p><p>basicaly we could never melee enough to take full benefit of a dirge. Seeing as 2/3+ of out stuff is a spell(even our taunts) troubs just buff better.</p>
Omegaphobia
09-13-2007, 07:59 PM
<p>Thanks for all the great tips and suggestions guys, i think its SK/Inquisitor for now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Beldin_
09-14-2007, 12:23 AM
One thing is also, if you like some more utility .. Druids are great for Portals and runspeed .. Inqui sadly has really no utility <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Dead Knight
09-14-2007, 03:50 AM
<cite>Shalla@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing is also, if you like some more utility .. Druids are great for Portals and runspeed .. Inqui sadly has really no utility <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote>Inquis utility comes from their uber buffs.
Beldin_
09-14-2007, 10:54 AM
<cite>Dead Knight wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shalla@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing is also, if you like some more utility .. Druids are great for Portals and runspeed .. Inqui sadly has really no utility <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"></blockquote>Inquis utility comes from their uber buffs.</blockquote>With utility i mean something that has nothing to do with fighting mobs, more just with travel around. And if you are more the quester than the grinder, travel is a big factor and i really loved the 60% runspeed and the portals with my zerker/warden duo <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Wilin
09-14-2007, 03:14 PM
I usually pull out the fury for SKs. Furies have some good caster buffs including nice INT buffs and they do good damage(probably the best of all the healers), and their heals work well with SK heals, Agitate rocks, and all the utility spells are nice.
Antryg Mistrose
09-14-2007, 09:51 PM
<cite>Dead Knight wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>Go on a raid with a Dirge in group. Then do the same zone with a Troub and compare your parses. We are casters, Troubs are our bards.</blockquote>This thread is NOT about raiding. Duo with a dirge and troub and compare your survivabilty.
MaCloud1032
09-16-2007, 11:49 PM
<p>i duo with both and notic no diffrence. Troubs stun mez and do other tricks. They also allow us to burn a lot faster.</p><p>Dirges have stoneskin and thats about it. </p>
Zehl_Ice-Fire
09-17-2007, 06:40 AM
<p>I 2 box my SK & Inq. I easily cleared the dragon rooms and the dragons in PoA when my Inq first hit 70 and had crappy gear still. (both are now in full Kos or Eof fabled and all mastered). I had no interest in a druid, and I didn't think 2 boxing a fury would be as effective as a real person duoing with one, the heals are fast recast which means you have to hit them a lot vs the long reactives of the inq with SK's own reactive lifetap. In a bad situation if you need to hit a lot of buttons on 2 diff comps there is a much larger margin for muff ups (even with a wireless gamepad)</p><p>I have also 2 boxed with my dirge and SK, also a nice pair with the group invis, rezing (things going bad? get to safe place and FD dirge), CoB (we do have CAs as well as spells), emergency heal and tons of debuffs, percussion of stone is great too and mine is only adept 1. Boring? not really, if by boring maybe you mean doesn't normally parse 2k? You still hit buttons like other classes to do damage & debuffs. Stoneskin is not about it at all.. I go for hith INT on my sk and a dirge still boosts everything a lot. I really never got to play her with a troub but I'm sure precision is as nice or nicer than cacophony.</p><p>My 4th 70 is a brigand, also has 2 boxed with the sk, not a bad pair, things die FAST but, no FD (though she is a tinkerer) or heals. Brigs have no lifetaps or self heals (dirges have 2 lifetap type hits), or any buffs at all to offer a group.</p>
CHIMPNOODLE.
09-17-2007, 09:07 AM
<p>Dirge's Oration of Sacrifice Heal comes in handy at times too (costs the dirges own health but heals 199 1 shot...then ~300 per second for 8 seconds. If it crits it heals about ~450 per second for 8 seconds).</p>
Wilin
09-18-2007, 05:49 PM
<cite>Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I 2 box my SK & Inq. I easily cleared the dragon rooms and the dragons in PoA when my Inq first hit 70 and had crappy gear still. (both are now in full Kos or Eof fabled and all mastered). I had no interest in a druid, and I didn't think 2 boxing a fury would be as effective as a real person duoing with one, the heals are fast recast which means you have to hit them a lot vs the long reactives of the inq with SK's own reactive lifetap. <b>In a bad situation if you need to hit a lot of buttons on 2 diff comps there is a much larger margin for muff ups (even with a wireless gamepad)</b></p></blockquote>So, run both instances on the same computer with 1 keyboard and 1 mouse and arrange windowed instances in such a way that the fury's hotbars are merely an extension of the SKs hotbars. It's just like adding fury spells to an SK. (Only the fury is on auto follow) It's alot easier than you might think.
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